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Allanfan20
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8/23/2005  3:54 PM
I am looking at our frontcourt, and I really do see a lot of potential, particularly in Sweetney and Frye. I see them as perfect compliments to eachother. However, being famous for their foul woes, all 3 of these guys are going to have to stay on the court. If, for most of the season, they keep getting into foul problems, we are not gonna be a very good ball club, b/c a team that relies on Malik Rose to be their best frontcourt player (It very well could be) is much worse off than a team that relies on Kurt Thomas as their best. If those 3 guys can stay on the court and play some defense, we are in good shape, but based on their history, all 3 of them might have trouble staying on, and if they can't, we are totally screwed in terms of hopes of making the playoffs. But lets hope that if the frontcourt sucks, it better suck bad enough for us to be a top 5 lottery team. God, I'm sick of us hoping we hit the lottery.
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8/23/2005  4:02 PM
I would like to see Sweetney fed in the post. Beasts must be fed and Sweets can be one.
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8/23/2005  4:08 PM
Agreed 100%
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8/23/2005  4:15 PM
i would be 100% content if we gave the ball to sweetney and frye 20-25 times a game next year and let them do what they wanted to.
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8/23/2005  4:31 PM
Posted by fishmike:

I would like to see Sweetney fed in the post. Beasts must be fed and Sweets can be one.


feed and sweets should not be in the same sentence.
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8/23/2005  4:35 PM
high post/low post

If we squeek out 40 wins forcing Mo T and Rose out there while those 2 sit I will be pissed
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8/23/2005  4:40 PM
I just don't see WHY Mo T would get significant minutes unless he turned into something real big this Summer, which I doubt. It's not like he's anymore productive than any of the guys we have. I can see why Larry would give Malik significant minutes, b/c he has flat out earned them, but I don't see who else he WILL play besides Sweetney and Frye. I can see Larry hating James. Face it, our rotation in the frontcourt is Frye, Sweetney and Malik and if Sweetney and Frye can't stay on the court, we are screwed.
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8/23/2005  5:13 PM
Posted by fishmike:

I would like to see Sweetney fed in the post. Beasts must be fed and Sweets can be one.
I would but only if Mike shows the team in practice that he has effective low post moves.
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8/23/2005  5:18 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by fishmike:

I would like to see Sweetney fed in the post. Beasts must be fed and Sweets can be one.
I would but only if Mike shows the team in practice that he has effective low post moves.



Have you ever watched the guy play?
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8/23/2005  5:53 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by fishmike:

I would like to see Sweetney fed in the post. Beasts must be fed and Sweets can be one.
I would but only if Mike shows the team in practice that he has effective low post moves.



Have you ever watched the guy play?
Yeah, he can't do squat in the low-post unless someone else (usually Marbury) creates plays for him
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8/23/2005  6:30 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by fishmike:

I would like to see Sweetney fed in the post. Beasts must be fed and Sweets can be one.
I would but only if Mike shows the team in practice that he has effective low post moves.



Have you ever watched the guy play?
Yeah, he can't do squat in the low-post unless someone else (usually Marbury) creates plays for him


what? bonn - this is crazy. my man has CRAZY low post moves. you're thinking of nazr.
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8/23/2005  6:36 PM
Don't worry everyone, I 'll scare him away :







Boy, Allen Iverson sure is a much better player than Stephon Marbury.
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8/23/2005  9:47 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by fishmike:

I would like to see Sweetney fed in the post. Beasts must be fed and Sweets can be one.
I would but only if Mike shows the team in practice that he has effective low post moves.



Have you ever watched the guy play?
Yeah, he can't do squat in the low-post unless someone else (usually Marbury) creates plays for him


what? bonn - this is crazy. my man has CRAZY low post moves. you're thinking of nazr.
honestly can't tell if you're joking or serious
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8/23/2005  9:51 PM
not joking.
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8/23/2005  9:54 PM
the only low post moves he has are waiting for Marbury to create for him or grabbing an offensive rebound and scoring. You CANNOT run a offense through him. You CANNOT throw the ball to him and ask him to CREATE a low post scoring opportunity. That's what good low post scorers can do. Maybe Sweetney will be able to do that some time but he hasn't been able to in his 2 year career
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Posted by Bonn1997:

the only low post moves he has are waiting for Marbury to create for him or grabbing an offensive rebound and scoring. You CANNOT run a offense through him. You CANNOT throw the ball to him and ask him to CREATE a low post scoring opportunity. That's what good low post scorers can do. Maybe Sweetney will be able to do that some time but he hasn't been able to in his 2 year career

in the words of marv: have you ever watched the guy play?

bonn, i'm saying this for your benefit - bail out of this thread immediately. you're not helping your cause...






[Edited by - djsunyc on 08-23-2005 10:00 PM]
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8/23/2005  10:48 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Bonn1997:

the only low post moves he has are waiting for Marbury to create for him or grabbing an offensive rebound and scoring. You CANNOT run a offense through him. You CANNOT throw the ball to him and ask him to CREATE a low post scoring opportunity. That's what good low post scorers can do. Maybe Sweetney will be able to do that some time but he hasn't been able to in his 2 year career

in the words of marv: have you ever watched the guy play?

bonn, i'm saying this for your benefit - bail out of this thread immediately. you're not helping your cause...

[Edited by - djsunyc on 08-23-2005 10:00 PM]
LOL! What low post moves does Mike have? Be specific if you can

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 08-23-2005 10:53 PM]
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8/23/2005  11:06 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Bonn1997:

the only low post moves he has are waiting for Marbury to create for him or grabbing an offensive rebound and scoring. You CANNOT run a offense through him. You CANNOT throw the ball to him and ask him to CREATE a low post scoring opportunity. That's what good low post scorers can do. Maybe Sweetney will be able to do that some time but he hasn't been able to in his 2 year career

in the words of marv: have you ever watched the guy play?

bonn, i'm saying this for your benefit - bail out of this thread immediately. you're not helping your cause...

[Edited by - djsunyc on 08-23-2005 10:00 PM]
LOL! What low post moves does Mike have? Be specific if you can

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 08-23-2005 10:53 PM]


http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=11032
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8/23/2005  11:09 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Bonn1997:

the only low post moves he has are waiting for Marbury to create for him or grabbing an offensive rebound and scoring. You CANNOT run a offense through him. You CANNOT throw the ball to him and ask him to CREATE a low post scoring opportunity. That's what good low post scorers can do. Maybe Sweetney will be able to do that some time but he hasn't been able to in his 2 year career

in the words of marv: have you ever watched the guy play?

bonn, i'm saying this for your benefit - bail out of this thread immediately. you're not helping your cause...

[Edited by - djsunyc on 08-23-2005 10:00 PM]
LOL! What low post moves does Mike have? Be specific if you can

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 08-23-2005 10:53 PM]


http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=11032
the video link doesn't work when I went to that thread. But if you're relying on a highlight video rather than watching the games, then your opinion makes a lot of sense now.
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8/23/2005  11:19 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Bonn1997:

the only low post moves he has are waiting for Marbury to create for him or grabbing an offensive rebound and scoring. You CANNOT run a offense through him. You CANNOT throw the ball to him and ask him to CREATE a low post scoring opportunity. That's what good low post scorers can do. Maybe Sweetney will be able to do that some time but he hasn't been able to in his 2 year career

in the words of marv: have you ever watched the guy play?

bonn, i'm saying this for your benefit - bail out of this thread immediately. you're not helping your cause...

[Edited by - djsunyc on 08-23-2005 10:00 PM]
LOL! What low post moves does Mike have? Be specific if you can

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 08-23-2005 10:53 PM]


http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=11032
the video link doesn't work when I went to that thread. But if you're relying on a highlight video rather than watching the games, then your opinion makes a lot of sense now.

Too bad. It expired.

Did you watch it when it was up before? Mike was demonstrating his low post moves in it. In real game action. It was a more direct means of answering your question - " LOL! What low post moves does Mike have? Be specific if you can" - than typing a lot of words about them. I'll let anyone else do it who cares to.

But seriously, Bonn, besides the bantering, I'm surprised you don't recognize he has a nice arsenal of post moves. He just hasn't demonstrated them often enough, he hasn't been aggressive enough and he hasn't gotten enough entry passes IMO.
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