SA is shopping Nestrovic. They need a SF.

We have a glut at G/SF position. Marbury & Craw are here to stay. We need a big man.

So, how about Q-Rich for Nestrovic & rights to Ian Mahinmi (SA's #28th selection of 2005 draft http://nbadraft.net/profiles/ianmahinmi.asp). The #s work on Real GM.

SA gets a SF who can score/rebound in Q-Rich. He is 25 yrs old, 4 yrs younger than Nestrovic. He has 5 yrs $37mm left on his deal (compared to 4 yrs $30mm ofr Nestrovic)

NY gets Nestrovic who I believe is better than JJ. He's a 7 footer who can score, rebound and block shots (though he didn't have a good yr). Mahinmi, a 19 yr old 6-10 PF, is supposed to be a monster prospect with good rebound & shot blocking skills.

NY Lineup
Crawford / Nate
Marbury / Ariza / Houston
TT / Lee / Rose
Sweetney / Frye / Taylor
Nestrovic / JJ / Butler
Rights to Mahinmi

I'd do this deal since it solves a glut at the perimeter and nets us a C & great prospect in Mahinmi. I see Craw as our starting PG, Marbury as SG, Ariza as future starting SF. Nestrovic is not a star C but having him and JJ, both 7+ ft, is a big frontcourt upgrade and allows Frye to take his time learing the ropes.

Thoughts?

Trading for Nesterovic would be allright, but we would have to be gettin back a lot more then some foreign prospect and giving up a lot less then Q.

But we already have their 1st round pick next year, I guess we could take a couple more lol.

This means...

Outgoing
KT(32) + Dijon Thompson(22) + Q-Rich(24)

Incoming
Nate(21) + Nestrovic(29) + Mahinmi(19)

We're getting younger, taller, more athletic, and better defensively. Also placing prospects in the pipeine for the future.

Rasho? LOL We need someone better and I think we can still get that.

honestly, i find it hard to believe that the spurs will give up on a prospect like Ian... they right now are thinking to #ell with Rasho, that's why we got Oberto

You guys think that Rasho is a bum, but if you look at his #s for the last 3-4 yrs, it's not bad. Yeah, you have to take it into consideration that he did play with KG and Duncan, both known to make others around them better. But he still is a 7 footer who can score 20 and block 5 shots on a good night.

We are not going to get a great big man for Q. It's simple as that. We have Timmy and Penny's expiring deals that may net us a big name player at the trade deadline (in our dreams). I'd be happy if we got a servicable big man in Rasho and Mahimni, using Q who is not a great player in my book. You have to remember that Mahimni was SA's 28th pick from last draft... SA's! That's probably the best team in NBA in terms of finding great talent from overseas.

Posted by simrud:

Trading for Nesterovic would be allright, but we would have to be gettin back a lot more then some foreign prospect and giving up a lot less then Q.

But we already have their 1st round pick next year, I guess we could take a couple more lol.

Who do you think we could get for Q then? Realistically.

if he was brought here, i don't even think he would start. i think he would play the okur role.

i'm not a fan of rasho but i think moving q, right now, may be a bit premature. this would then leave us with relatively thin backcourt again.

i liked Rasho's progression in Minn. I had read an article about McHale working with him a lot to teach him his old up and under move, and the the next time I saw them play I watched for it and i was pretty impressed with the way the guy was playing.

But he certainly was pathetic this year. SA really is so freaking smart. They saw what they needed for a championship, a guy like Nazr to step in and give them what Rasho was supposed to but wasn't. They even managed to clear out an expensive mistake (sorry - but that's how I see Malik) in the process.

I lilke the way you're thinking in trying to get us more bigs, especially the young prospect.

But there is no way I'd trade Q. Our backcouirt is set beautifully right now IMO. Q can get minutes at 3 as well as 2, and Marbs, Craw and Nate can all go 1 and 2. Let's let this backcourt play, learn Larry 's system and see where it all shakes out.

Posted by Marv:

i liked Rasho's progression in Minn. I had read an article about McHale working with him a lot to teach him his old up and under move, and the the next time I saw them play I watched for it and i was pretty impressed with the way the guy was playing.

But he certainly was pathetic this year. SA really is so freaking smart. They saw what they needed for a championship, a guy like Nazr to step in and give them what Rasho was supposed to but wasn't. They even managed to clear out an expensive mistake (sorry - but that's how I see Malik) in the process.

I lilke the way you're thinking in trying to get us more bigs, especially the young prospect.

But there is no way I'd trade Q. Our backcouirt is set beautifully right now IMO. Q can get minutes at 3 as well as 2, and Marbs, Craw and Nate can all go 1 and 2. Let's let this backcourt play, learn Larry 's system and see where it all shakes out.

Hmmmm... maybe you guys are right.

I'm worried about our front court since we couldn't land the likes of Kwame, Gadz, Zaza.
Having JJ and Frye at C is too weak IMHO.

To tell you the truth, I'm so freeking bored and felt the need to stir the pot!!!!!! Can't wait for the training camp...

Posted by OAK:

Posted by simrud:

Trading for Nesterovic would be allright, but we would have to be gettin back a lot more then some foreign prospect and giving up a lot less then Q.

But we already have their 1st round pick next year, I guess we could take a couple more lol.

Who do you think we could get for Q then? Realistically.

I think it's far too early to tell whether or not Q fits here.