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Would Isiah Ever Trade Marbury???
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bobs3304
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8/19/2005  7:08 PM
I was bored earlier, so I went to HoopsHype and checked out our roster and some of the other Atlantic teams...

Couple of things struck me -

A.) Letting Timmy and Penny slide off the cap would atleast help return us to SOME cap respectability.

B.) There was a quote from Marbury on the site "I ain't going nowhere, and I'm still going to play the same way I play".......are we REALLY supposed to believe he can adapt?

C.) There are still a couple teams that might be willing to trade for him.

D.) Trading him would allow us to move Crawford to the point and Q Rich to the 2, seeing as how Crawford is Isiah's lover boy and he won't be parting with him anytime soon...



So, to the point :

Would Isiah ever trade Marbury???
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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Rich
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8/19/2005  7:13 PM
If Larry wants him gone, he's gone.
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8/19/2005  7:16 PM
Sometimes I can't tell who Isiah likes more, Jamal or Stephon. With the way that Isiah is constantly talking to Stephon, not just about basketball but the game itself, it seems that Isiah and Stephon are quite the little tandem. I dont know, I just don't get that sense with Jamal but who knows, maybe Jamal just doesnt tell the media that kind of thing. I agree with Rich though, if things dont work out and Larry wants him gone I think he'll be gone, I really don't want Crawford at the point though. He's not a point guard and he's not a starting NBA shooting guard, he's a 6th man and I wish that would stay his role but obviously that's not going to happen, atleast not right now.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 08-19-2005 7:16 PM]
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8/19/2005  7:17 PM
I think if after 3 years the little experiment didn't pan out, i could see trading marbury to be fully under the cap...I think you have to wait until after H20's deal would have expired, after the 06/07 season.

that, in my mind, is the make or break.

the revolving door in nyc is ok for role players, but you can't keep shuffling in stars and hope they bring with them the magic potion to a winning team.

You have to at one point just stick with one player and do what you can to surround that player with what he needs to succeed.

Unless the player is shaq, there is nobody you could trade him for that would bring a championship. and with the way the CBA is, you have to bring back contracts of equivalent (sp?) value so what's the difference.

Thrusting Crawford to the starting role really doesn't make us feel better and if you bring in a stud, he won't be the focus of the offense.

Now is the time for everyone to just realize that marbury is our star that we should build around...we tried to go with ewing alone, but it didn't work, you have to stick with it.

Marbury is awesome, his stats speak for themselves.

To answer your question, there is no way Isiah trades marbury...if marbury is traded, it'll be after Zeke is gone.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 08-19-2005 7:19 PM]
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8/19/2005  7:30 PM
Hey, wats up RV Hoes. Long time no see.

I think stats and impact are 2 completely different things. You know you have a special player when he puts up the stats AND makes a big impact.

Marbury does one, and not so much the other. You need 20 and 8, fine....I'm sure Crawford and Nate could combine for that.

But you look at Shaq, and forget about his production (which is huge), and his impact on the game is still felt. He makes his teammates better, on and off the court.

Marbury's a good player, but not great. Crawford's not great either, but he's cheaper, and more or less just as effective. Hell, give him Marbury's minutes and I'm sure he could average close to 20 and 8.

I guess you could say I'm not all too "thrilled" with the roster. We're lacking at SF and C, but overloaded at SG and PF. Moves NEED to be made in order to balance this roster out...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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8/19/2005  7:33 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

I think if after 3 years the little experiment didn't pan out, i could see trading marbury to be fully under the cap...I think you have to wait until after H20's deal would have expired, after the 06/07 season.

that, in my mind, is the make or break.

the revolving door in nyc is ok for role players, but you can't keep shuffling in stars and hope they bring with them the magic potion to a winning team.

You have to at one point just stick with one player and do what you can to surround that player with what he needs to succeed.

Unless the player is shaq, there is nobody you could trade him for that would bring a championship. and with the way the CBA is, you have to bring back contracts of equivalent (sp?) value so what's the difference.

Thrusting Crawford to the starting role really doesn't make us feel better and if you bring in a stud, he won't be the focus of the offense.

Now is the time for everyone to just realize that marbury is our star that we should build around...we tried to go with ewing alone, but it didn't work, you have to stick with it.

Marbury is awesome, his stats speak for themselves.

To answer your question, there is no way Isiah trades marbury...if marbury is traded, it'll be after Zeke is gone.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 08-19-2005 7:19 PM]

the stats are real. who does marbs have on the team having his back? J Kidd, please... J Kidd had Kenyon Martin and Jefferson

when marbs had amare, marbs and amare fought the spurs really hard in the first round that year... now, two years later, Amare has another PG still feeding him, crushing people...

Marbury's problem is sometimes he rubs people the wrong way...
bobs3304
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8/19/2005  7:43 PM
Caseloads.......that sig REALLY needs to go dude.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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8/19/2005  7:46 PM
I agree with rich, but who's to say IT and LB want clash like ernie and JVG did. Everybody knows what a control freak LB is ( not that anything is wrong with that at this juncture )but I honestly feel maurbury wants to be a winner more then he wants to be the best pg on earth. Crawford as well wants to become a better player and is willing to learn. Stephs relationship with Steph is exactly like JVG and Ewing, only IT has more power then JVG.
So to answer your ? no..hell no
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8/19/2005  8:19 PM
I agree, I think Marbury will be here as long as Isiah is. The day Isiah leaves that goes right out the window imo
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8/19/2005  8:32 PM
Absolutely. Isiah would trade his own mother. (or so he said.)
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8/19/2005  8:39 PM

There will come a time where he either helps further the team, or is an obsticle. Give him two more seasons to get "seasoned"!

If he goes to the dark side, then despite his talent and reluctance to be a team guy, then he gets the boot.
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8/19/2005  9:02 PM
2 more seasons!


Wow...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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8/19/2005  10:29 PM
Like Black people skydiving......Isiah don't get down like that!

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8/19/2005  10:37 PM
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DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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8/20/2005  12:36 AM
Steph could be traded if things just blew apart, but I don't see that happening. I think that after last year, none of the Knicks wants to go thru that again. I fully expect everyone to come in with a positive attitude, willing to work hard and learn. Well everyone, but Penny :) We have too many players looking to either prove they're winners, prove the team that let them go was wrong or that they belong on the floor. Add a determined Coach & GM and I just can't see any way this team doesn't come out breathing fire.
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8/20/2005  12:54 AM
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8/20/2005  12:56 AM
Dolan won't let Zeke trade him ,because Marburys home town will bring more publicity to NYC. And you know how much Dolan loves that.
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bobs3304
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8/20/2005  12:59 AM
Personally, I don't understand what this love affair is with players who came from NY. I'm sure Dolan would rather keep him, so you're more or less right. But it's Isiah's job to do everything in his power to bring us a championship, and as of right now, we're farther away than we are closer...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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8/20/2005  1:01 AM
But we have Larry.
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Would Isiah Ever Trade Marbury???

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