Well, he did average 14 and 9 last year in 30 mins. Not saying Sweetney or Frye can't just that they haven't yet. I don't really think we need Gooden. I think the real benefit to having him is that his contract is small enough that it can be traded, perhaps with an expiring contract, to get a real bonafide star or near star PF.

I could see Gooden + TT/Penny bringing back a guy like Gasol, Boozer, maybe Brand (if picks were thrown in) Not may teams are gonna dump good PF just for expiring contracts. But if you give them someone who could be seen as a replacement young PF who can put up slightly lower #'s along with an expiring deal, it becomes more of a possibilty.

Gooden has good potential. He can already score and he's a beast on the boards. If you could get him playing well on both ends of the floor he could be a Sheed Wallace type player. Is Snow's deal worth it? Is Snow taking minutes for Nate or Crawford worth it? Not sure about that at all, unless your looking at Snow for 1-2 years followed by and early retirement for knee problems.

While I will not come off of my stand that we will compete this year, I would much rather look to the future of nate and crawford than try to fill the cupboard with more trading chips.

We've got two expiring deals this year and two next year. we also have tons of youngins.

I haven't even looked to see how much snow makes...lemme check...

I would definately take Drew Gooden. I think Drew has alot of rare qualities in him that most power fwds don't have. He has a Kenyon Martin game minus the 'Roids(yeah I said it).

Posted by bobs3304:

we JUST got rid of 1 PF..... we shouldn't be adding ANOTHER, unless we're swapping.

i don't follow that logic

Posted by bobs3304:

Gooden's alright, if not b/c of his padded stats, then b/c of his minimal contract. But honestly, we JUST got rid of 1 PF..... we shouldn't be adding ANOTHER, unless we're swapping.

If Goodens stats are padded then KT's were definately inflated.

Gooden has always been able to score double figures since he got in this league. Gooden is still trying to find a home. Why Not here? It would be nice for Isiah to get a young guy in just before they reach their potential.

But you are right about adding to the glut. I'd trade two power fwds to get Drew....but that would mean Snow will be coming a little too early in NY.




[Edited by - enyspree on 08-18-2005 11:54 AM]

i wonder what all those ****'s stand for...

well the knicks have needed a better power fwd for years.....if KT brought all that then why haven't the Knicks made the playoffs?

I don't wanna go back and forth about KT because he is gone, thank God.

Drew has been able to produce good numbers on all the teams he's been on. He just has to find the right setting. Why not here?

Still Snow's contract is crazy. Gooden is not coming without him...that is a given. Knicks would have to give up 2 power fwds (Mo and Sweets). Nate Robinson gets screwed.

I would only trade one of our overpriced PFs like Taylor & a lottery projected pick for Gooden and Snow. Then I would make Snow the 12th man and never play him

everyone is talking about a glut at power forward- but for all the power forwards we have, none are that talented so I wouldn't shy away from adding one just because you think we have too many- I'd argue we might have too few (talented ones).

I'm not saying Gooden is an improvement over ours- just stating that just cause we got 4 or 5 pfs, don't make that an arguement for not adding another who might be more talented than the ones we have combined.

Personally, I'd rather have Derek Fisher than Snow- he's a bit like Horry and could have a role- not sure, though, that it would be on our team.

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by bobs3304:

Gooden's alright, if not b/c of his padded stats, then b/c of his minimal contract. But honestly, we JUST got rid of 1 PF..... we shouldn't be adding ANOTHER, unless we're swapping.

If Goodens stats are padded then KT's were definately inflated.

Gooden has always been able to score double figures since he got in this league. Gooden is still trying to find a home. Why Not here? It would be nice for Isiah to get a young guy in just before they reach their potential.

But you are right about adding to the glut. I'd trade two power fwds to get Drew....but that would mean Snow will be coming a little too early in NY.




[Edited by - enyspree on 08-18-2005 11:54 AM]

how are you adding to a glut at PF if you're trading 1 to get 1? you still have the same amount of PF's only the one you get is younger & more talented w/a more reasonable contract...the only drawback (& it's a BIG one) is taking on Snow's longterm deal...again, would i make this trade? probably not...but would Isiah? i think he would.

& for whoever thinks no one's going to trade for Mo T, it's not about the player, it's about the contract...CLE saves money in that trade.