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BigSm00th
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6/11/2002  3:35 PM
From RealGM.com:

Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reports that Brian Grant is on the trading block in Miami. And rumor has it they are talking with the Suns. The Phoenix Suns would like to trade guard Penny Hardaway and need a physical frontcourt player such as Grant. But a three-team scenario involving the Heat, Suns and Portland Trail Blazers isn't likely to happen in its current form, according to an official with one of the teams.

In a recent report, Peter Vecsey of the New York Post claimed that the Blazers are working to send Damon Stoudamire and Zach Randolph to Miami, the Heat's No. 1 draft pick (10th overall) and Hardaway to Portland, and Grant to Phoenix. An Eastern Conference GM confirmed hearing that scenario.

The Heat probably have little interest in Stoudamire and would rather have Bonzi Wells in a sign-and-trade. A straight trade of Grant for Hardaway would probably be unacceptable for the Heat because of Hardaway’s diminishing skills and inflated contract.

Another league source said an ESPN Internet report linking Heat guard Eddie Jones and the No. 10 pick to Memphis for the No. 4 pick, Michael Dickerson and Brevin Knight isn't likely to happen. The Grizzlies believe they can find a player as good or better than Jones, for a lot less money, with the fourth pick. Also, the Heat would have qualms about assuming the contracts of Dickerson (six years, $45 million left) and Knight (two years, $12 million left).



Sprewell for Grant, straight up, works. Maybe if Miami put in the 10th pick the Knicks could swing that. They'd have two lotto picks, and the chance of Hilario falling to 10 is pretty good. Say the first 6 picks are Ming, Williams, Butler, Dunleavy, Tskitisvili, and Gooden in one order or another. That leaves 4 good players between 7 and 10: Wagner, Hilario, Wilcox, Qyntel Woods, and Curtis Borchardt.

That'd be great, but would the Heat want that? Spree is better then Penny, but maybe the Knicks would have to give the Heat the 2nd round pick, which I would do too. With Hilario and Woods drafted, you're looking at a future lineup (probably 4 years for Hilario and Woods to be consistently producing big numbers)

PG: ?? (Jackson won't be there in 4 seasons, but thats a lotto team for next year and point guards next year include Chris Duhon, Troy Bell, and T.J. Ford)
SG: Houston
SF: Woods
PF: Grant
C: Hilario
6th: Camby

[Edited by - bigsm00th on 06/11/2002 15:43:09]
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6/11/2002  4:09 PM
Grant is one of the most over rated, overpaid players in the league. Besides KT can do basically the same things Grant does for a lot less money.
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6/11/2002  4:32 PM
Posted by LJ2:

Grant is one of the most over rated, overpaid players in the league. Besides KT can do basically the same things Grant does for a lot less money.
I'd take KT over Grant anyday, but it wouldn't hurt to try sending Thomas, Harrington, and Ward or Eisley to Miami for Grant and their 10th pick. I think it sounds like a reasonable deal.
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6/11/2002  4:42 PM
The key to the deal is the 10th pick, not Grant.
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6/11/2002  7:11 PM
Grant is absolute garbage. Heck for Penny We can give them Shandon + Kurt.
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6/11/2002  8:13 PM
The point of the deal isn't to get Grant, Fritz, I just said that. The point is to get the 10th pick and get Qyntel Woods.
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6/11/2002  8:39 PM
Posted by BigSm00th:

The point of the deal isn't to get Grant, Fritz, I just said that. The point is to get the 10th pick and get Qyntel Woods.
give Phoenix Kurt and Shandon/Eisley for Penny and a filler (Voshkul?) and their 9th pick.
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6/11/2002  8:58 PM
Who would you prefer with the 10th pick if we were to get it? Qyntel Woods or Jared Jeffries? I'm undecided.
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6/11/2002  9:04 PM
Jeffries is definitely more of a sure thing, but Woods' potential is much higher. Apparently Woods' workouts have been going well. If he is near the talent level now of Jeffries, I'd have to go with him.

And I checked at RealGM, the Knicks could trade Thomas, Harrington, and Eisley for Penny and the 9th. Unless the Suns are sold on Thomas, which I doubt, then I doubt they do that trade.

And the Miami trade has a low probability of happening as well since that would make the team worse, not better. The only player I could see Layden/Dolan wanting to acquire where they would think that their team has gotten better would be to get Andre Miller, for whatever cost.
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6/11/2002  9:45 PM
No way! Maybe Houston but not Spree! Why would the Knicks want another overpaid PF?
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6/11/2002  10:39 PM
What power forwards on the Knicks are overpaid? Why is everyone so reluctant to give up Sprewell? He quit on the team at the end of the year, even though they were losing. He constanly complains about everything, he constantly "hints" about meeting with Dolan/Layden so he can discuss future plans.

I like everything Spree has done for the Knicks, don't get me wrong, but it's time to get younger, whether it be to get Andre Miller or Brian Grant/10th pick, he's gotta be the sacrifical lamb to make the Knicks better.
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6/12/2002  8:11 PM
Damn, remember in the mid-90's when we were all drooling over Penny Hardaway's game? He was one of the most exciting players in the league at the time, and had the "next Jordan"mantle written all over him...Wow, amazing what a rotten attitude, and a couple of knee surgeries can do to a players stock. Penny is worth just about that now, a freaking penny.

Concerning Brian Grant, thats exactly the type of players the Knicks have to stay away from. Actually he seems like he belongs on the current Knicks team. Old, boring, and makes a ton of jack. He has like a $90 million dollar contract, and the only thing he has done since he has signed it, is try to look like a fake *ss Bob Marley.

I will be very upset if the Heat can dump this guy on some team, while the Knicks cant do the same with all of the useless expensive players they have.

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6/13/2002  5:41 PM
Posted by BigSm00th:

What power forwards on the Knicks are overpaid?

Spoon. I won't talk about the rest of the moves Layden has made.
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