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rvhoss
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8/10/2005  4:11 PM


Hawks GM Billy Knight refused the hand of Hawks owner Steve Belkin.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2129751

BOSTON -- A judge stepped into the feud among Atlanta Hawks owners Tuesday, blocking the removal of Boston businessman Steve Belkin as managing partner.

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8/10/2005  4:12 PM
I haven't been paying much attention to it, but this is strange...

OK OK, I'll read the article.
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8/10/2005  4:15 PM
$20 mill in the first year? Hoofah.
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8/10/2005  4:22 PM
LOL Atlanta's a mess right now. If they thought that they had issues getting FA players to sign on, it just got a whole lot worse. Who'd want to deal with drama like this?
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8/10/2005  4:53 PM
Can someone explain to me where in the world did Billy Knight thought he had to power to make moves without proper consent and how in the world did he come to conclusion that he deserves that type of authority?
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8/10/2005  5:01 PM
He had the backing of the other 70% owners!

Belkin is likely smoking them for more money. One snake deserves another.

Is this the same billy knight whom played for Indiana many years ago?

http://www.basketballreference.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=KNIGHBI01
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8/10/2005  5:02 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Can someone explain to me where in the world did Billy Knight thought he had to power to make moves without proper consent and how in the world did he come to conclusion that he deserves that type of authority?


i thought that most of the owners were supporting Knight. Only Belkin, i think it said he owned 20-30 percent of the team, was against the move, but the other owners were all for it. this is why its tough to have multiple owners, they all have different perspectives. Belkin doesnt care if his teams wins, just as long as he makes money, and thats why Knight and the other owners dont want Belkin since Belkin is content with the Hawks going nowhere.
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8/10/2005  5:14 PM
Posted by rvhoss:



Hawks GM Billy Knight refused the hand of Hawks owner Steve Belkin.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2129751

New caption time!

How this?

"Billy, my main bro! Whats up! Yo yo! Uh, billy, uh, you gonna leave me hanging? Bro?"

Or

"Billy, hey, no hard feelings! RIght, RIght?"

Or

"Billy, If I win control, your so atta here! Hey, lets shake! Billy? any kids to feed billy?"

Or

Billy to himself: "MotherPhucher crakah ass crakah just done ripped me a new one! Look a me, My job is done, my team sucks, no body cares! Damm Belks suit looks fresh! I look like I slept in this crap and look at this damm crakah just gleaming! Man, he even smells good! I smell like sheet! I look like Sheet, my team is sheet, and now, huh, you you want to shake MY hand? Oh whats up with dat! Now you wanna be my friend? Suck my Chock now? Crakah ass crakah! Oh, sure im all like street person and now you wanna kiss? Go take a flying phuck you dumb crakah ass..........SNAP..........Say, some dude just took my picture? I really did not shake his hand did I? Im so done its scarey. Dead GM walking! What would Isiah do?, damm, I knew I should have worn my Orange Shirt and tie, I'd have killed them! Im calling his taylor! yeah, like im gonna need a suit after today! They can bury me in it! And I gotta come up here to boston! Not a damm brother anywhere. Even the chowder is white! Im chowder now! Lunch meat chowder! Isiah would have taken the chopper and I get jet phucking blue!"
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8/10/2005  5:50 PM
Belkin is an ass. Period. End of discussion. He is a tight wad sports owner trying to turn a profit. He has no basketball accumen at all. The first round picks is the weakest argument ever. The salary is something else.
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8/10/2005  6:25 PM
So what happens? Do the Hawks get JJ or not?
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8/10/2005  7:47 PM
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by Pharzeone:

Can someone explain to me where in the world did Billy Knight thought he had to power to make moves without proper consent and how in the world did he come to conclusion that he deserves that type of authority?


i thought that most of the owners were supporting Knight. Only Belkin, i think it said he owned 20-30 percent of the team, was against the move, but the other owners were all for it. this is why its tough to have multiple owners, they all have different perspectives. Belkin doesnt care if his teams wins, just as long as he makes money, and thats why Knight and the other owners dont want Belkin since Belkin is content with the Hawks going nowhere.
It is a horrible trade for a couple of standpoints, first it's a trade without Phoenix back salary. Second, JJ already made it quite clear that he didn't want to return. Knight should had some balls and said look we ain't trading you jack. We will take our business elsewhere. Look at what Riley did with Odom and Sterling, that was classic. If JJ was serious about playing for the Hawks announce that he won't sign any offer sheet and will take a tender but extremely unhappy. There is no way in the world that Phoenix would say that' ok we still keep you around even if you don't want to be here. I agree with Belkin, the Hawks had the upper hand but somehow got rimmed on the deal. My question is how hard did Knight barter, I mean ... the Hawks have to pay the guy, give up a player and two picks. And this JJ, not some guy coming off an all-star year either.
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8/10/2005  8:03 PM
Posted by rain:

Belkin is an ass. Period. End of discussion. He is a tight wad sports owner trying to turn a profit. He has no basketball accumen at all. The first round picks is the weakest argument ever. The salary is something else.

So rain, you think that the trade is a good one, and giving JJ a Max contract is a good basketball decision? I personally would pass on the deal as well.
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8/10/2005  8:09 PM
Posted by Andrew:
Posted by rain:

Belkin is an ass. Period. End of discussion. He is a tight wad sports owner trying to turn a profit. He has no basketball accumen at all. The first round picks is the weakest argument ever. The salary is something else.

So rain, you think that the trade is a good one, and giving JJ a Max contract is a good basketball decision? I personally would pass on the deal as well.

no, its a bad deal, its just a pain in the plughole when there are multiple owners with different views on how a team should be run.
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8/10/2005  8:12 PM
over the xtreme long term, NOT getting jj for that deal is better off for the team, but it's been a while since they've been competative so this kills them in all facets right now.
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8/10/2005  8:23 PM
anyone here want JJ here?

What about Craw, JYD & a pick for JJ?
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8/10/2005  11:22 PM
Posted by rain:

Belkin is an ass. Period. End of discussion. He is a tight wad sports owner trying to turn a profit. He has no basketball accumen at all. The first round picks is the weakest argument ever. The salary is something else.

Imagine turning a profit off an investment!

Imagine your dumb ass GM overbid for a player, and then dumped two picks and boris!

Dumb, just dumb! Balloon payment was to deter the suns from matching. If they do, so be it, move on! But you don't give the balloon payment then do a trade. Thats just plain dumb on the other owners and Billy Knight!

Belkin was the only one thinking!
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