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Bonn1997
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How many games will the Suns win next season? C: Amare Stoudemire PF: Kurt Thomas SF: Shawn Marion SG: Jim Jackson PG: Steve Nash Bench: no one (except Raja)
60+
55 to 60
50 to 54
45 to 49
40 to 44
35 to 39
30 to 34
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Bonn1997
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8/9/2005  3:22 PM
People keep debating how badly losing Q and JJ and replacing them with Kurt and Raja will hurt or how much it will help the Suns. So, I wanted a poll. I think they'll win about 50 games. I think losing Q and JJ will really hurt them and they're unlikely to be blessed with as few injury problems as they were last season. They'll still be good, but they took a step backwords and might win about 12 fewer games than last season.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 08/09/2005 15:24:43]
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8/9/2005  3:24 PM
i would've preferred a 60-65, 65-70, and a 70-75 breakdown as well.
Bonn1997
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8/9/2005  3:25 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

i would've preferred a 60-65, 65-70, and a 70-75 breakdown as well.
So you think they'll be one of the best teams in NBA history? Or were you just joking?
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8/9/2005  4:59 PM
wow; 40 to 44 is the most common category so far and everyone is predicting that they've gotten worse since last year. I guess Briggs hasn't voted yet!
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8/9/2005  5:51 PM
I stick by my word. 60+
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Bonn1997
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8/9/2005  6:21 PM
who voted 25 to 29? LOL!
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8/9/2005  6:22 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

who voted 25 to 29? LOL!

I just thought some were overestimating Kurt's jumper!
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8/9/2005  7:04 PM
PHO winning 40 to 44 games sounds about right to me...

They'll lose some games while getting chemistry issues worked out early on.

[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 08/09/2005 19:05:06]
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8/9/2005  10:44 PM
I see Suns as being a 50-53 win team. While they lost alittle offense i think having KT will help Amare and letting Marion go back to SF is good move too.
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8/9/2005  11:37 PM
I'll wait to make a prediction to see if they pick up someone like Finley on the cheap by the end of the month.
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8/9/2005  11:55 PM
how can anyone seriously predict this? They have only 8 players on their roster. who knows who is going to fill the other 7 spots.
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8/9/2005  11:57 PM
Posted by jaydh:

how can anyone seriously predict this? They have only 8 players on their roster. who knows who is going to fill the other 7 spots.

That's why I chose 25-29 wins, you can't be successful with only 8 players.
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8/9/2005  11:57 PM
I think they will regress this season.
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8/10/2005  9:44 AM
They played over their heads last season. If anyone thinks that Bell can easily replace JJ please just watch Utah games vs. the Suns. Playing KG and Duncan 2 more times each won't help him out. Also I think he will have his jumper block alot more in the west (more active shotblockers out west). I think he will be better serve playing mid to high post, so Nash can get in the ball in a better place to match his skills.
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8/10/2005  12:13 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

They played over their heads last season. If anyone thinks that Bell can easily replace JJ please just watch Utah games vs. the Suns. Playing KG and Duncan 2 more times each won't help him out. Also I think he will have his jumper block alot more in the west (more active shotblockers out west). I think he will be better serve playing mid to high post, so Nash can get in the ball in a better place to match his skills.
Not only does Bell have to replace Joe Johnson, Jim Jackson has to replace Q Rich also. They lose a lot of scoring, rebounding, and passing. And now Kurt's gonna have to either guard centers or guard guys like Elton Brand every night. They'll still be a good team because they have three great players, but nothing separates them from the other 48 to 51 win teams IMO
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8/10/2005  12:18 PM
I think amare is going to average 35 and 12 this season, especially with two scorers gone - he could put eve more points. i reall do think kurt will help spread the defense out a bit because of his jumper and he is a good defender in my opinion, just not in the role he was playing here. if amare can focus on playing some better defense, then their front court defense with marion kurt and amare is going to be real strong. bell will play some nice perimieter defense as well. They definitely have more moves on the way - if that team got a guy like artest, that would really put them over the top. I think what you'll see now is a team that puts up 105 points but gives up90, instead of a team that was winning 130-115. i think they stay almost as good as last year.
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8/10/2005  12:29 PM
Posted by nyballer:

I think amare is going to average 35 and 12 this season, especially with two scorers gone - he could put eve more points. i reall do think kurt will help spread the defense out a bit because of his jumper and he is a good defender in my opinion, just not in the role he was playing here. if amare can focus on playing some better defense, then their front court defense with marion kurt and amare is going to be real strong. bell will play some nice perimieter defense as well. They definitely have more moves on the way - if that team got a guy like artest, that would really put them over the top. I think what you'll see now is a team that puts up 105 points but gives up90, instead of a team that was winning 130-115. i think they stay almost as good as last year.
Amare's always been about an 8 RPG player. I don't see him jumping to 12 RPG. Also, there's really a limit to how much scoring a PF with minimal low post moves can put up. I don't see him getting more than 26 PPG unless he drastically changes his low post game this offseason.
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8/10/2005  12:34 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Amare's always been about an 8 RPG player. I don't see him jumping to 12 RPG. Also, there's really a limit to how much scoring a PF with minimal low post moves can put up. I don't see him getting more than 26 PPG unless he drastically changes his low post game this offseason.

In the playoffs he averaged 30 and 11...now take away Q rich (a chucker) and Joe Johnson (another scorer) and I think what you will see is Amare taking a lot more shots - granted they won't be easier since they lost two perimeter threats, but he becomes even more a focal point of the offense. I think we saw with Q rich struggling in the playoffs how Amare could take more of the load of the team..he put up 37 points per game on the Spurs, a top 2 defensive team in the league. The rebounding I see as improving only because with more time in the league young guys learn better fundamentals/how to rebound, although KT being around might affect his rebounding. Still, the kid's 22...I think he's got 5-7 more years in which he'll improve before he reaches his peak.

[Edited by - nyballer on 08/10/2005 13:58:28]
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