Negative. All we do is create a glut at small foward with TT, Ariza, Lee?, and possibly even Q and Penny. And I don't want to give up that pick for George anyway. He's good, but he's not worth it for us. Besides, Ariza is probably better, and we need to be concentrating on how to clear up the glut in what seems to be at every position. I'm fine with the PF position, in terms of the glut. It's deep. We need another one, if anything. A STAR pf, or a star C, not like Big Gay, James.

Besides, that draft pick could be much more valueable thatn George anyway, pending on the depth chart.

I think alotta of you are shortchanging George.


But fair enough, I can see where you're coming from.


Personally, any improvement is a step in the right direction, and this is a win-win for us. Either we continue cutting cap $$ or we add a fringe starter in Devean. When TT and Penny are gone next year, we're gonna need a starting SF, and Ariza won't be ready and JYD just won't cut it over an 82 game season. You need SOME offense from your 3, and Devean gives you a nice mixture of defense and scoring...

And yes - I AM losing sleep over that PF glut.

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 08/08/2005 16:21:02]

no no no no no

we are not in a position to be giving up picks just to clear a glut.

if we're that hard pressed to clear a glut, we might as well just waive him.

George sucks. He's worse at SF than Mo T is at PF. We have too many players no matter what. The glut will go away in 2 years when a handfull of the crappy contracts go away. Mo T is part of that. Some of it's on Isiah, some is from the Layden regime. Bottom line unless the Knicks just cut guys its part of the waiting game.

The question is do you let guys rot on the bench, or play them and try to pump up their value some?

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1.) Why would I think George is a PF?

2.) It doesn't matter, b/c both him and Vlade are expiring contracts. Any 1 of 3 things could happen:

a.) George gets healthy, and he becomes very useful, especially with Timmy gone by next year. I think all of you are shortchanging him b/c his stats don't pop out at you. But consider this - he contributed on championship teams with Shaq and Kobe. He's defensively solid, and shoots around 40 % from 3, and the fact that he did contribute says that he can handle pressure situations. Phil Jax trusted him enough to give him significant playing time when they needed an extra body...

b.) We simply let Divac and George slide off the cap along with Timmy and Penny for a combined 40 Mill. This is the one scenario where I could see some of you thinking the draft pick is not worth it. I'd agree for the most part.

c.) We package George and/or Divac along with Timmy and picks for a star-caliber player if one becomes available before the deadline. This would be significant b/c other than Timmy and Penny, we have no other expiring contracts, and teams would NOT want to take extra $$$, assuming their intentions are to slash salary.


Out of those 3 scenarios, A and C are def. worth it. B.....I could understand some of you not liking.

Again, why are some of you so high on Taylor and so low on George? When Timmy expires next year, who's gonna start at SF - JYD? I'm not so sure that's gonna happen. You need outside shooting from your SF, and JYD is anything but that. George, to reiterate, has hit consistently 40 % of his 3's during his career. That's Wally Szerb type %.

Also, you guys do realize that, although it is a 1st round draft pick, the San Antonio 06 pick will be coming out of an even weaker draft talent-wise than this past one, and the depth won't be there. It's the 07 draft that's said to be stacked. And besides, how many rookies can you have on 1 team, especially a team whose goal is not only to make the playoffs, but to start winning.

Also, don't underestimate what solving the PF glut does for Frye, Lee, and Sweetney. It allows for more playing time for both rookies, especially Frye, and gives Sweetney an even better opportunity to fight for a starting job. To think that we can simply ignore the glut is stupid - Taylor still being here means he WILL get some PT, regardless of how little defense he does or does not play. Those are minutes I, personally, would rather have Frye and Sweetney making use of...

[Edited by - BOBS3304 on 08/08/2005 19:57:38]