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TheSage
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8/7/2005  10:42 PM
Am I reading it right? Knx 8th overall?? They sure haven't been reading these forums.

[Edited by - TheSage on 08/07/2005 22:54:57]
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Knight
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8/7/2005  10:48 PM
Posted by TheSage:

Am I reading it right? Knx 8th overall?? They sure have been reading these forums.

Man, those ratings are off--Lakers at 10? Bucks at 22 while the Wizards are 14? That is a crazy list! Who is "Patrick J. Austin" anyway?

[Edited by - Knight on 08/07/2005 22:51:52]
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bernard
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8/7/2005  11:22 PM
This is like being on the cover of SI. What's going on? Team hasn't shown anything! Still only have one all-star. Like what we're doing, but not figuring on being a good bet to win a playoff series, which 8th seed should do. Silly.
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8/7/2005  11:39 PM
team #28

C-Kelvin Cato 6-11 275
F Dwight Howard 6-11 245
F Grant Hill 6-9 225
G Steve Francis 6-3 200
G Jameer Nelson 5-11 200
C Tony Battie 6-11 240
F H Turkuglo 6-10 225
G Doug Christie 6-6 215
G Keyon Dooling 6-3 195
G Deshawn Stevenson 6-5 215

are we better than this team? even though they messed up their draft pick, its a simple equation they have dwight howard, we dont. they have more stars, more size, better defense
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Knight
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8/7/2005  11:45 PM
I really think Larry Brown in NY has other teams' fans a little spooked--everyone thinks he will make a HUGE difference in NY. I think he will but we are still far from being the 8th best team in the league.
"He only went to Georgia Tech for one year, and that's an engineering school." -LB
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8/7/2005  11:46 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

team #28

C-Kelvin Cato 6-11 275
F Dwight Howard 6-11 245
F Grant Hill 6-9 225
G Steve Francis 6-3 200
G Jameer Nelson 5-11 200
C Tony Battie 6-11 240
F H Turkuglo 6-10 225
G Doug Christie 6-6 215
G Keyon Dooling 6-3 195
G Deshawn Stevenson 6-5 215

are we better than this team? even though they messed up their draft pick, its a simple equation they have dwight howard, we dont. they have more stars, more size, better defense

doug christie will get waived.
francis doesn't want to be there.
their head coach is brian hill.
grant hill is playing on paper ankles.
so unless dwight howard averages 30/15, we should be better.
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8/7/2005  11:47 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

team #28

C-Kelvin Cato 6-11 275
F Dwight Howard 6-11 245
F Grant Hill 6-9 225
G Steve Francis 6-3 200
G Jameer Nelson 5-11 200
C Tony Battie 6-11 240
F H Turkuglo 6-10 225
G Doug Christie 6-6 215
G Keyon Dooling 6-3 195
G Deshawn Stevenson 6-5 215

are we better than this team? even though they messed up their draft pick, its a simple equation they have dwight howard, we dont. they have more stars, more size, better defense
They have Deshawn Stevenson and we don't, they're better.
And whos gonna stop Keyon Dooling?

[Edited by - Killa4luv on 08/07/2005 23:48:44]
BRIGGS
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8/8/2005  12:03 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by BRIGGS:

team #28

C-Kelvin Cato 6-11 275
F Dwight Howard 6-11 245
F Grant Hill 6-9 225
G Steve Francis 6-3 200
G Jameer Nelson 5-11 200
C Tony Battie 6-11 240
F H Turkuglo 6-10 225
G Doug Christie 6-6 215
G Keyon Dooling 6-3 195
G Deshawn Stevenson 6-5 215

are we better than this team? even though they messed up their draft pick, its a simple equation they have dwight howard, we dont. they have more stars, more size, better defense

doug christie will get waived.
francis doesn't want to be there.
their head coach is brian hill.
grant hill is playing on paper ankles.
so unless dwight howard averages 30/15, we should be better.

well, whatever, they are superior at 4 starting postions except Marbury and Nelson at PG depth is pretty close, edge knicks

the combination of Hill Howard and Francis is well above our top 3 guys, and thats where you really looking at matchups the big three on each team. for the most part you will have a big 3 and a 6th man +role players. Turkuglo as a sixth man with those 3 is pretty darn good.
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Killa4luv
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8/8/2005  12:09 AM
I don't know if Cato is superior to Jerome James.

Hedo is decent, but is he better than Q or Craw off the bench? No.


At the end of the day, we have Larry Brown and they have Brian Hill, we win.
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8/8/2005  12:14 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by BRIGGS:

team #28

C-Kelvin Cato 6-11 275
F Dwight Howard 6-11 245
F Grant Hill 6-9 225
G Steve Francis 6-3 200
G Jameer Nelson 5-11 200
C Tony Battie 6-11 240
F H Turkuglo 6-10 225
G Doug Christie 6-6 215
G Keyon Dooling 6-3 195
G Deshawn Stevenson 6-5 215

are we better than this team? even though they messed up their draft pick, its a simple equation they have dwight howard, we dont. they have more stars, more size, better defense

doug christie will get waived.
francis doesn't want to be there.
their head coach is brian hill.
grant hill is playing on paper ankles.
so unless dwight howard averages 30/15, we should be better.

well, whatever, they are superior at 4 starting postions except Marbury and Nelson at PG depth is pretty close, edge knicks

the combination of Hill Howard and Francis is well above our top 3 guys, and thats where you really looking at matchups the big three on each team. for the most part you will have a big 3 and a 6th man +role players. Turkuglo as a sixth man with those 3 is pretty darn good.

Briggs, I'm sorry, but in what world is aging Grant Hill who barely finished the season last year better than young Ariza? I'm sorry, I agree about Dwight, but that's it. We're better at every other position. Depth and coaching are obviously landslides in our favor.
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Knight
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8/8/2005  12:16 AM
I know one thing: my friend Fran V. doesn't think much of their chances next year.
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8/8/2005  12:21 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

Briggs, I'm sorry, but in what world is aging Grant Hill who barely finished the season last year better than young Ariza? I'm sorry, I agree about Dwight, but that's it. We're better at every other position. Depth and coaching are obviously landslides in our favor.
Grant Hill was 20 & 5 and 3 apg
Ariza 6 & 3 and 1.

I think Grant is leeetle bit better. Just a tad.
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8/8/2005  12:33 AM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by BRIGGS:

team #28

C-Kelvin Cato 6-11 275
F Dwight Howard 6-11 245
F Grant Hill 6-9 225
G Steve Francis 6-3 200
G Jameer Nelson 5-11 200
C Tony Battie 6-11 240
F H Turkuglo 6-10 225
G Doug Christie 6-6 215
G Keyon Dooling 6-3 195
G Deshawn Stevenson 6-5 215

are we better than this team? even though they messed up their draft pick, its a simple equation they have dwight howard, we dont. they have more stars, more size, better defense

doug christie will get waived.
francis doesn't want to be there.
their head coach is brian hill.
grant hill is playing on paper ankles.
so unless dwight howard averages 30/15, we should be better.

well, whatever, they are superior at 4 starting postions except Marbury and Nelson at PG depth is pretty close, edge knicks

the combination of Hill Howard and Francis is well above our top 3 guys, and thats where you really looking at matchups the big three on each team. for the most part you will have a big 3 and a 6th man +role players. Turkuglo as a sixth man with those 3 is pretty darn good.

Briggs, I'm sorry, but in what world is aging Grant Hill who barely finished the season last year better than young Ariza? I'm sorry, I agree about Dwight, but that's it. We're better at every other position. Depth and coaching are obviously landslides in our favor.


what? i like trevor, but its very likely that he never EVER has a season even close to what Grant Hill had last year, as far as who is better
number 1 Dwight Howard is so far superior to ANYONE we can put a PF it isnt close. Grant Hill is a proven 20-5-5 guy and Steve Francis is as good as any guard including marbury.

what im trying to get at here is the knicks are NOT team 8 in the nBA, that F crazy and I believe I proved it by just matching them on paper with the 28th team. the Knicks are going to struggle to be a 15 team
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8/8/2005  12:43 AM
I think that when you have a Coach as good as Brown, who has proven to avg an improvement of 10 or more wins in his 1st year with a team, then you can understand why the Knicks have been given so much more respect. This team had some talent last year and underachieved, now we have even MORE talent and one of the Best Coaches in the League. In fact he's good at what we were weakest at, DEFENSE. imagine how many of those games we would have won last year if we had just played D.

We have enough talent to win some games, but with LB cracking the whip this team should not have another underachieving season. Its more likely that they will overachieve. We have a perfect mix of vets and young talent. They just need to be shown how to win.
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8/8/2005  1:13 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by BRIGGS:

team #28

C-Kelvin Cato 6-11 275
F Dwight Howard 6-11 245
F Grant Hill 6-9 225
G Steve Francis 6-3 200
G Jameer Nelson 5-11 200
C Tony Battie 6-11 240
F H Turkuglo 6-10 225
G Doug Christie 6-6 215
G Keyon Dooling 6-3 195
G Deshawn Stevenson 6-5 215

are we better than this team? even though they messed up their draft pick, its a simple equation they have dwight howard, we dont. they have more stars, more size, better defense

doug christie will get waived.
francis doesn't want to be there.
their head coach is brian hill.
grant hill is playing on paper ankles.
so unless dwight howard averages 30/15, we should be better.

well, whatever, they are superior at 4 starting postions except Marbury and Nelson at PG depth is pretty close, edge knicks

the combination of Hill Howard and Francis is well above our top 3 guys, and thats where you really looking at matchups the big three on each team. for the most part you will have a big 3 and a 6th man +role players. Turkuglo as a sixth man with those 3 is pretty darn good.

Briggs, I'm sorry, but in what world is aging Grant Hill who barely finished the season last year better than young Ariza? I'm sorry, I agree about Dwight, but that's it. We're better at every other position. Depth and coaching are obviously landslides in our favor.


what? i like trevor, but its very likely that he never EVER has a season even close to what Grant Hill had last year, as far as who is better
number 1 Dwight Howard is so far superior to ANYONE we can put a PF it isnt close. Grant Hill is a proven 20-5-5 guy and Steve Francis is as good as any guard including marbury.

what im trying to get at here is the knicks are NOT team 8 in the nBA, that F crazy and I believe I proved it by just matching them on paper with the 28th team. the Knicks are going to struggle to be a 15 team

i agree, the knicks are not team 8, not even on paper. we are a team of questions marks all the way through the lineup BUT we are still better than the clusterf ck that is orlando. for all the questions we have, we do know that LB will have us playing hard. forget the talent, francis is a ticking time bomb - AND steph is better than him. hill is AWESOME and i won't even get into dwight - he's a beast. but where exactly is their frontcourt depth? we may not have a howard or hill here but we can go 6-7 deep in the frontcourt with solid play. that team can not survive a frontcourt injury - and asking for hill to replicate his 70 game season would be big - that's almost like factoring h20 into ours.
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8/8/2005  4:14 AM
who knows if the Knicks are going to be better than Orlando but i do have to say that woever thinks Ariza is better tha grant hill is really, really awful and lost in love, or something!

I think the Knicks have a better team than Orlando but not because of Larry Brown, who is a good coach but some people act like Larry brown teams are the **** or something. Dude just lost at the Olympics for crying out loud.

But i'm glad he's a Knick coach. I'm thankful that we actually will look like a team with a direction and i'm still laughing at dude who thinks Ariza is better than grant Hill, and i love Trevor Ariza
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