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djsunyc
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8/5/2005  1:25 AM
Abdur-Rahim Fails His Physical With The Nets
4th August, 2005 - 11:11 pm

New York Times - The Nets had scheduled a news conference for Thursday morning to introduce their prized off-season acquisition, power forward Shareef Abdur-Rahim. Instead, Rod Thorn, the Nets' president, announced that the trade for Abdur-Rahim was in limbo because of an unresolved matter in connection with his physical on Wednesday.

Thorn would not specify why the 6-foot-9 Abdur-Rahim did not pass the physical, but he said that the problem did not involve a pre-existing condition.

Abdur-Rahim, a nine-year veteran who spent the past season and a half with Portland and had become a free agent, had signed a contract with the Nets, but it will not become official until the Nets are satisfied with his physical condition. The six-year deal to bring him to New Jersey, worth close to $39 million, was part of a sign-and-trade deal with the Trail Blazers.

The Nets are seeking other medical opinions. If they do not complete the trade by Aug. 12, it will fall through.

"It was a shock," Thorn said of the development. "We had scheduled a press conference. Obviously, we did not think there was going to be anything wrong whatsoever."

Abdur-Rahim, who is in Atlanta, was also stunned, Thorn said.

Abdur-Rahim had surgery on his right elbow last season and missed 28 games.

"He had a knee operation when he was in high school," Thorn said. "He's never missed a game with the knee problem in the N.B.A.; never missed a practice or game. The only thing he's ever missed any games for in the N.B.A. was for an elbow operation."

When asked if the condition was career-threatening, Thorn said, "That's not for me to say, one way or the other."

If the deal falls through, it would be an enormous blow to the Nets. Abdur-Rahim, 28, was considered the best power forward on the free-agent market. He averaged 16.8 points and 7.3 rebounds last season and was an All-Star in 2002 with Atlanta.

The Nets were hoping to play him alongside Jason Kidd, Vince Carter, Richard Jefferson and Nenad Krstic. All five players averaged 10 or more points last season.

"He was a big piece to our puzzle and a quality player," Thorn said. "So if it works out that we don't complete the trade, then we've lost a quality player."

Thorn said he remained hopeful that Abdur-Rahim would wear a Nets uniform this season, but that a contingency plan was already in motion.

"We've started looking at other options because players that we may have an interest in are either signing every day or they are about to sign," Thorn said. [READ]
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NewYorkSoul
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8/5/2005  1:54 AM
This is quite a big surprise - Shareef has proven very durable over his career, even though he got "hurt" last year when he was a part of the Trailblazer's quagmire
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8/5/2005  3:27 AM
this is weird, cause he seemed to be like the consumate pro, taking care of his body... which is strange cause I think he didn't miss so many games except for his elbow if I'm not wrong.
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8/5/2005  7:17 AM
probably just a negotiating ploy
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8/5/2005  7:27 AM
Not that I am laughing but ha ha... He was oft injured in Atlanta, and in Portland. There has always been rumors that there was something wrong with him that cause him to miss games unsuspecting like. But riddle me this how in the world did Carter or Alzono pass the Nets physical. I agree with Bonn I think it is a negogiating ploy by the Nets to try and get something extra ala NY did with Q.
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8/5/2005  8:32 AM
This is really strange. I mean even if he does have some kind of injury to his knee, so what?

Unless its career ending, and I just can't see how some non game related out of the left field injury can be, how does this prevent the Nets from signign him?

The only thing I can think of is that they want his contract insured agaisnt the knee or something like that.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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8/5/2005  8:55 AM
Posted by simrud:

This is really strange. I mean even if he does have some kind of injury to his knee, so what?

Unless its career ending, and I just can't see how some non game related out of the left field injury can be, how does this prevent the Nets from signign him?

The only thing I can think of is that they want his contract insured agaisnt the knee or something like that.
Exactly, I think it is just a ploy to get something else. SAR injuries are no secret and hasn't prevented him from putting up all-star type numbers.
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8/5/2005  9:18 AM
how can it be a ploy to get something else out of Portland?

He's a free agent in & S&T for the nets trade exemption, enabling the nets can keep their mle open.

Portland can just say, 'see ya' they're not gaining anything out of this deal.
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8/5/2005  9:49 AM
Their already getting at quite a discount relative to his value. I doubt this is much of negotiating ploy.
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8/5/2005  10:24 AM
Oh, yes, I love it. One of my Nets fan friends was emailing and IM'ing me talking all this smack about the SAR deal, but it abruptly stopped yesterday. I guess this is why.

I guess Rod Thorn isn't as shrewd as the hype would have one believe. GOOD. I get sick to my stomach hearing people give the Nets props about anything. Let their asses suffer.

Too bad SAR's knee couldn't hold up until AFTER the deal was signed.
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8/5/2005  10:46 AM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

Oh, yes, I love it. One of my Nets fan friends was emailing and IM'ing me talking all this smack about the SAR deal, but it abruptly stopped yesterday. I guess this is why.

I guess Rod Thorn isn't as shrewd as the hype would have one believe. GOOD. I get sick to my stomach hearing people give the Nets props about anything. Let their asses suffer.

Too bad SAR's knee couldn't hold up until AFTER the deal was signed.

You have a friend who is a Net fan. Man, I feel for you. I think you can treat that with penicillin.

Seriously, I think they are kicking themselves in the head right now. Their plan B just signed with Houston. What is the supposed S&T consist of anyways? Who are involved in the deal? Maybe they are trying to get Darius Miles as well.

[Edited by - NYKBocker on 08/05/2005 10:46:22]
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8/5/2005  11:30 AM
so who do they have at PF? The great Scalaweenie walked. 38 y.o. Uncle Cliffie? Collins? Ha! Maybe they want to talk to us about Mo Taylor?

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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8/5/2005  11:43 AM
Posted by Marv:

so who do they have at PF? The great Scalaweenie walked. 38 y.o. Uncle Cliffie? Collins? Ha! Maybe they want to talk to us about Mo Taylor?

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

If they talk to us they would want a guy who run and jump. They would want JYD.
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8/5/2005  11:44 AM
Posted by NYKBocker:
Posted by Marv:

so who do they have at PF? The great Scalaweenie walked. 38 y.o. Uncle Cliffie? Collins? Ha! Maybe they want to talk to us about Mo Taylor?

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

If they talk to us they would want a guy who run and jump. They would want JYD.

Who is not a starting PF. I'd listen to offers.
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8/5/2005  11:46 AM
mo for the trade exemption + cash?
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8/5/2005  11:47 AM
Yeah but who'd we get in exchange? I would want to do anything to help the Nets unless it blew up in their faces later. Mo T might be a good idea.
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8/5/2005  11:48 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

mo for the trade exemption + cash?

sounds good. I'd do that deal, then LMAO at the Nets fans I know.
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8/5/2005  12:30 PM
Not that I am laughing but ha ha... He was oft injured in Atlanta, and in Portland.

According to the Bergen Record, Shareef Abdur Rahim has never missed a game due to injury: http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkxMjgmZmdiZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTY3MzkyMTQmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2

The Nets would be stupid to pass up on Rahim unless this problem with his knee is really serious. They are out of options and Rahim is pretty good forward regardless of what many may say.

SAR is being signed at such a bargain that he is not untradeable if it doesn't work out with him and the Nets, and if he is untradeable, I've seen much worse contracts get eaten. (Because I am a Knicks fan...)

oohah
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8/7/2005  9:46 PM
http://www.nypost.com/sports/nets/26727.htm

'I DON'T WANT TO BE A NET'

By LENN ROBBINS

The Nets have bigger problems than the condition of Shareef Abdur-Rahim's right knee. The team's handling of medical concerns growing from his physical have alienated the power forward to the point where he on longer wants join the team.

"Right now I don't feel I want to be a Net," Abdur-Rahim told The Post last night by telephone.

"I can go somewhere else and play my career out. This is not an emotional thing. I've got to stand up for myself."

When the Nets announced on Thursday that their deal with the Trail Blazers for Abdur-Rahim had been put on hold, the 6-foot-9 power forward said he understood the franchise was doing it's due diligence.

But when the situation wasn't resolved by yesterday and Abdur-Rahim was overwhelmed by phone calls from concerned friends and family saying they had read newspaper and Internet accounts of him failing his physical, he became more upset.

By 8 o'clock last night, Abdur-Rahim had yet to go out and celebrate his fifth wedding anniversary. He was on the phone discussing his options with his agent, Aaron Goodwin, and telling The Post how disenchanted with the Nets he had become.

"At this point I feel they're doing me a disservice," said Abdur-Rahim. "Look at my history. I've never missed a game because of my knees. They could have asked the team that drafted me [Vancouver] or any of the teams that have traded for me [Atlanta, Portland]. Instead, they're putting it out there like I failed the physical and I'm damaged goods.

"I don't want to be there," continued Abdur-Rahim. "We can just part ways and I'll find another situation where I'll have to do some damage control."

Abdur-Rahim doesn't have the power to stop the deal, but as Goodwin pointed out, "If you were the Nets, why would you bring in a player who no longer wants to be there?"

The Nets had a news conference scheduled for Thursday morning to introduce Abdur-Rahim, but an MRI found scar tissue in his right knee resulting from an injury he suffered in high school. He underwent arthroscopic surgery in 1993 and has never missed a game in college or during his nine-year NBA career because of a knee injury.

But because the Nets are investing $38 million and six years in Abdur-Rahim, they put the trade on hold.

Net President Rod Thorn never said Abdur-Rahim failed the physical - rather that the team had a concern.

"We're trying to gather all the information and make as informed a decision as we can," Thorn told The Post last night. "It's something that came out of the blue. It's something that we were not at all aware of."

A source told The Post the Nets sent copies of the MRI to three of the most prominent sports orthopedic surgeons in the nation - Dr. David Altcheck, Dr. Russ Warren, the Giants' team doctor, and Dr. James Andrews, who pioneered what is now known as Tommy John surgery.

Goodwin told The Post on Friday that Altcheck agreed with the power forward that the condition is not one for concern. The Nets agreed to send a 2006 protected first-round lottery pick and the team's $4.9 million trade exception to Portland for Abdur-Rahim.

The Nets have until Friday to complete the deal.
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8/7/2005  9:48 PM
Posted by Rich:

'I DON'T WANT TO BE A NET'
Good, very good.
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