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Killa4luv
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7/30/2005  11:29 PM
I'm watching the MSG program and Steph said:

-he talked to Chauncey & AI about being a pg for Larry

-they said its tough, he's hard on you, but you're gonna win and your gonna like winning so much that you wont mind it.

-He talked about the olympics and how things were tough at first, but he let him know what he wanted him to do and he did it.

-In the olympics, the game where Steph broke the single game record, he said LB told him before the game to be more aggressive and shoot more.

-He said LB is tough but he does give you freedom to do things as well. He lets you play.

-He just tries to make you emphasize your strengths and minimize your weaknesses.
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Killa4luv
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7/30/2005  11:31 PM
People obviously saw this already, and I can't figure why no one would post this because there seems to be this big fake mystery as to whether they can work together or not.


Steph will be an MVP candidate next season. Thats what I think will happen.
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7/30/2005  11:32 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:

-In the olympics, the game where Steph broke the single game record, he said LB told him before the game to be more aggressive and shoot more.

-He said LB is tough but he does give you freedom to do things as well. He lets you play.

-He just tries to make you emphasize your strengths and minimize your weaknesses.

Good post. LB will prolly tell Steph the same thing during the season.
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7/31/2005  12:10 AM
What people seem to be missing is that Larry Brown is an awesome coach. And to be an awesome coach who won everywhere he went, he must have used the players they had there, as opposed to bringing in solely those that fit your system like the college coaches have a luxury to do.

Brown simply makes sure his players do things that they are good at, and don't waste their time and effort doing things they are not so good at.

Thats why he told AI to go out there and chuck 40 shots a game at the SG, because thats what AI is best at, and they won that way.

Thats why he told Billups to only take good shots and not to shoot that much, concentrate on runnin the team and playin D. Becaue thats what Billups is good at, not being a scoreing PG like he tired ealier in his career.

I'm 100% sure that Brown will not come here with some mythical agenda to bent every player on the team into some "Larry Brown type of player". There is simply no such thing. Larry Brown takes every player for what he is worth and maximizes his impact whil minimizing his negatives.

So when Larry Brown will come here he will tell Marbury to do what he does best, whatever it is. Cause we don't know yet really. Neither does Marbury. Thats whrere Brown comes in and teaches him. Same for every other playe ron the team.

The only way a playe is not a "Larry Brown type of player" is if doesnt listen. Then he is as good as gone. And Craw as well as Marbury do seem like they are willin to listen.

The only guy I can think outright that might not be willin to listen is TT because he has a pmsing vagina instead of a brain, and he is a goner one way or another.

Either way the point it great coaches coach players they have, not players that fit some kind of stigma.
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7/31/2005  2:05 AM
this talk about star and brown is nothing more than media melodrama

if star gets the mvp great, but knicks better be deep in playoffs

is this not tim thomas money year?

its going to be an interesting year......
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7/31/2005  8:27 AM
"The only thing that unnerves me is that the only question I get is about Stephon Marbury. And they didn't win 33 games because of him or lose 49. It's a team game, so collectively we've got to figure out a way to get better and it's going to start with defense, and sharing the ball, rebounding the ball, playing smart and everybody's got to do it."

-Larry Brown (quoted from http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/333103p-284667c.html)

It's a team game indeed.
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7/31/2005  9:49 AM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:
"The only thing that unnerves me is that the only question I get is about Stephon Marbury. And they didn't win 33 games because of him or lose 49. It's a team game, so collectively we've got to figure out a way to get better and it's going to start with defense, and sharing the ball, rebounding the ball, playing smart and everybody's got to do it."

-Larry Brown (quoted from http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/333103p-284667c.html)

It's a team game indeed.
You know what worries me, is that everyone is saying all the right things. Its too quiet per say. Kinda like the situation in LA. I am sure Kobe and Phil will have issues with each other again. I wonder if that will happen with Steph and LB in NY. I hope this isnt the calm before the storm.
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7/31/2005  11:10 AM
It's the calm before the storm of WINNING that's about to take place.
...and actually it's not that quiet- there are several articles I've read as recently as today that were saying alot of the wrong things (Doomsday talk, blinder-obstructed pessimistic haterade-induced venom spitting- images of Frank Arseola and Chad Fraud come to mind).

All that "Steph & LB may clash" crap is media fodder. Those same writers, when proved wrong, will not for a moment hint at the foot in their mouths or eating crowburgers- they'll just find another issue, not matter how miniscule, to sensationalize into obliivon.
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7/31/2005  11:14 AM
i think all the talk right now is similar to SL performance - it's very interesting but it has next to nothing to do with what is going to happen in the real seaosn. I see the main thing with Larry being that he recognizes talent and maximizezs it. Guys have career years under him. Former borderline players become 1st rate role players or even stars on championship contenders. That's what I'm all psyched about. We have a bunch of guys who have mad talents but need to be coached the right way and need to play in a system where there's a culture of performance and accountablity.

It's gonna happen guys. We're gonna get f'g good in a short amount of time. LB's gonna work this and it's gonna happen. Sunday morning and it's time to preach!
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7/31/2005  11:27 AM
Amen!
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7/31/2005  1:32 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:

In the olympics, the game where Steph broke the single game record, he said LB told him before the game to be more aggressive and shoot more.

in the postgame interview for that game, Stephon gave Isiah the credit for talking with him the night before & telling him to be more aggressive.
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7/31/2005  2:06 PM
Yeah, I remember that. Isiah was basically Stephs mentor during that period, and that was basically what got the 2 to get in bed together. I don't remember Steph giving Larry Brown any credit back then.
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7/31/2005  2:34 PM
So the recap on Larry and his guards are



AI= "how will Larry coach AI, it is not his type of player"....AI wins MVP and goes to the finals, leads the league in scoring most of the time.

Chauncy="He's a journeyman who shoots too much, not LB's type of player..".....Wins one championship, 12 minutes away from another, classified in the upper echelon of all around PG's and is known as one of the toughtest guards around, wins Finals MVP...

Other guards that have Flourished under him include....

Rip, McKie, Snow, Mark Jackson, he is controlling Arroyo, ....

he has a track record, let's just wait and see
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7/31/2005  4:48 PM
I try not to read articles from the known Knick haters in the media, of which there are a ton of tthem.

What many of you have said is true. LB doesn't really just make each team over into the same style. He plays with what he has and maximizes everyones ability. He does focus on D and team ball, but how the team actually gets it done is based on the skills of the players he has. He was different in Indiana than he was in Philly and the same goes with Detroit. once he gets a chance to work with our team he'll settle on a style that works for us.

The thing that will change is the effort, accountability of each player and execution of fundementals. LB has a team with length, speed, shooting, shot blockers and high % FT shooting. We need help as a defensive team and in offensive execution and we really aren't that great in the rebounding dept. Rebounding is the one area that i'm concerned with, tho not overly so.

By the way I do remember Steph saying that he was given the go ahead from LB to be aggressive. I think both IT and LB tried to help Steph at that time. Funny but I really think Duncan's foul trouble, poor adjustment to the FIBA style and the horribble outside shooting of a lot of the USA team were big problems for them. More so than Steph's play.
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