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7/26/2005  7:06 AM
Brown comes to town

See Knick deal by Thursday

BY FRANK ISOLA
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER


Larry Brown arrives at West Side Heliport last night to talk to Knick brain trust. Next time he comes to town, he may be coach.

The Knicks have entered the final phase of their recruitment of Larry Brown and could have a deal in place with the Hall of Fame coach as early as Thursday.
Brown met with interim head coach Herb Williams last night in Manhattan to discuss the direction of the team and ask Williams to join his coaching staff. Knicks president Isiah Thomas and Garden president Steve Mills also attended the dinner, which lasted two hours.

"I was happy I got a chance to talk to Herb," Brown said from midtown before heading back to the Hamptons late last night. "That was very important for me. But it was a very good meeting."

When asked if he were going to take the job, Brown said, laughing, "You better ask Isiah that."

As recently as last week, Brown said publicly that he wanted Williams to remain head coach. But that was before the Knicks began courting Brown, who grew up a Knicks fan and dreamed of taking over the spot on the bench that once belonged to Red Holzman.

Also yesterday, Joe Glass, Brown's longtime friend and agent, revealed that he has begun discussions with Thomas. The Knicks are expected to offer Brown a five-year contract worth between $50 million and $60 million. Several details still have to be negotiated, including which assistant coaches will remain with the club and whom Brown might want to hire from outside the organization.

People close to Brown insist he is on the verge of agreeing to become the Knicks' coach and that his wife Shelly, who earlier had advised her husband to take a year off, now is encouraging him to take the job.

Brown wanted to first speak to Williams, who's been loyal to the organization and has maintained his dignity during the coaching search that began in late April.

"It is important that I talk to Herb," Brown said before taking the Cablevision helicopter from East Hampton to Manhattan for the dinner at an undisclosed location. "I have a lot of respect for him."

Brown, who reached a buyout agreement with the Detroit Pistons last Tuesday, met for two hours on Sunday with Thomas and Garden chairman James Dolan at Brown's East Hampton summer house. Three days earlier, Thomas visited with Brown on the eastern end of Long Island for four hours.

Glass maintains that Brown is still undecided about whether he wants to coach again. But others say the contract and lure of coaching in his hometown are too persuasive for Brown to turn down.

The Knicks won just 33 games last season and haven't won a playoff series since 2000. Brown has a history of turning losers into winners almost overnight and the Knicks will be as challenging a job as Brown has ever faced. Already, there are reports that Brown feels the Knicks' roster is weak and that major changes need to be made.

Brown will want a say in personnel decisions and it will be interesting to see how Thomas reacts to having a coach with as much power as Brown. Of course, hiring Brown will rate as Thomas' most important move since taking over as president 19 months ago, akin to Dave Checketts hiring Pat Riley more than a decade ago.

In many ways, Brown is walking into a similar situation. The Knicks, desperate for leadership, will be hiring one of the top coaches in the profession. Brown has been to three of the last five NBA Finals and is regarded as a demanding, defensive-minded coach, just like Riley and Jeff Van Gundy.

Brown, 64, is the only coach to win both an NCAA title and an NBA one. He also is known as a coaching nomad who always has his eye out for another challenge. What is troublesome to some in the Knicks organization is that Brown enjoyed two seasons of success in Detroit, followed by a nasty breakup. The Knicks still are years away from contending for a title and by then Brown could be on to his next job.

"If you're telling me we might just get him for two years, I would still take it," said one Knicks official. "He's a great coach. You just don't hire a guy like Larry every day."

Coincidentally, one week after Brown and the Pistons parted ways, Brown's former club offered Darko Milicic to the Atlanta Hawks for Al Harrington. Brown's reluctance to play the unproven second-year forward caused a rift between the coach and Detroit president Joe Dumars. Now it appears the Pistons are willing to trade the second overall pick of the 2003 draft.


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7/26/2005  11:15 AM
this is a little anti-climatic. yes we all know lb will be coaching the knicks. no announcement is even needed at this point, its beyond bizzare. i wonder who is going to break l b is signing with the knicks? man that was out of leftfield.


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7/26/2005  11:17 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

this is a little anti-climatic. yes we all know lb will be coaching the knicks. no announcement is even needed at this point, its beyond bizzare. i wonder who is going to break l b is signing with the knicks? man that was out of leftfield.

LOL did anyone know Larry Brown was going to the sign witht he Knicks? Where did this come from!!!!!
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7/26/2005  11:37 AM
I love reprints of links from the fist page!
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7/26/2005  12:35 PM
With Larry Brown, it isn't over until his signature is on the contract. I would be surprised, but not shocked, if he turned the job down.
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7/26/2005  12:42 PM
Some sources are saying this could be done by the end of the day. Hopefully, that happens, I hate when things drag on
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7/26/2005  12:45 PM
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Posted by s3231:

Some sources are saying this could be done by the end of the day. Hopefully, that happens, I hate when things drag on
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7/26/2005  12:47 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2116674

With the last "obstacle" no longer an issue, Larry Brown and the New York Knicks moved closer Tuesday to finalizing a deal that would make the much-traveled 64-year-old the franchise's 22nd head coach.

"On a scale of 1 to 10, it's an eight," said Brown's agent, Joe Glass.
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7/26/2005  12:48 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2116674

all I can say is wow, I was skeptical at first that this would happen but wow it really is going to happen
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7/26/2005  12:48 PM
An 8? Gimme a 10!!!!!
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7/26/2005  12:56 PM
Man... I just want to hear that the agreement was made. I want there to be no reason why he won't end up our coach this coimng season.

It's been "almost..." for a damn week already.
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7/26/2005  12:58 PM
This is the most exciting time for Knicks basketball in 20 years--before Isiah our team was rotten, Isiah brought in a new recipe and managed to gather some new, exciting, and interesting ingredients--well, now were going to have the best chef in world handling those ingredients--the only question is what will the final product be? I'm very curious to see how Larry puts this team together since it seems there are a number of ways he can go and many options to choose from. I can't tell you how excited I am to finally see a Knicks team play with confidence and a winning attitude and walk onto the court like winners. Pride in Knicks basketball is finally returning and I can't wait to see the first playoff series between NY and Detroit.
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7/26/2005  1:00 PM
Posted by Knight:

This is the most exciting time for Knicks basketball in 20 years--before Isiah our team was rotten, Isiah brought in a new recipe and managed to gather some new, exciting, and interesting ingredients--well, now were going to have the best chef in world handling those ingredients--the only question is what will the final product be? I'm very curious to see how Larry puts this team together since it seems there are a number of ways he can go and many options to choose from. I can't tell you how excited I am to finally see a Knicks team play with confidence and a winning attitude and walk onto the court like winners. Pride in Knicks basketball is finally returning and I can't wait to see the first playoff series between NY and Detroit.

make that just over 10 years.... Riles was big news and sparked the club.
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7/26/2005  1:01 PM
Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

Man... I just want to hear that the agreement was made. I want there to be no reason why he won't end up our coach this coimng season.

It's been "almost..." for a damn week already.

Yeah... But at least this is the closest we have been to having an agreement
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7/26/2005  1:04 PM
Still unclear is what role Williams would have with the Knicks under Brown, and which of New York's current assistant coaches might remain with the club. There also is a question of whether any of Brown's assistants who also lost their jobs in Detroit, including Gar Heard and Dave Hanners, might be added to Dolan's considerable payroll.

Williams' head coaching contract expires Sunday, but his assistant coaching contract has another year left. His dinner with Brown came one day after Dolan and Thomas spent more than two hours visiting Brown at his home in East Hampton, N.Y.

"Situations are always going to work out," Williams told WNBC-TV while playing in a golf tournament Monday in suburban New York. "You know, a job is a job. You have to approach it that way, you know, that's what you get paid to do, so you step in and you do the job. You don't think about anything else."


I find all this love for Herb to be a little sickening. I mean I understand that he has a long relationship with Madison Garden and the Knicks but correct me if I am wrong, he wasn't the head coach, he was the interim. Now Brown has to be saddled with Herb in order to project "I am not a bad guy" image.
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7/26/2005  1:08 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Still unclear is what role Williams would have with the Knicks under Brown, and which of New York's current assistant coaches might remain with the club. There also is a question of whether any of Brown's assistants who also lost their jobs in Detroit, including Gar Heard and Dave Hanners, might be added to Dolan's considerable payroll.

Williams' head coaching contract expires Sunday, but his assistant coaching contract has another year left. His dinner with Brown came one day after Dolan and Thomas spent more than two hours visiting Brown at his home in East Hampton, N.Y.

"Situations are always going to work out," Williams told WNBC-TV while playing in a golf tournament Monday in suburban New York. "You know, a job is a job. You have to approach it that way, you know, that's what you get paid to do, so you step in and you do the job. You don't think about anything else."


I find all this love for Herb to be a little sickening. I mean I understand that he has a long relationship with Madison Garden and the Knicks but correct me if I am wrong, he wasn't the head coach, he was the interim. Now Brown has to be saddled with Herb in order to project "I am not a bad guy" image.

it is pretty sickening. If Larry wants to bring in the guy(Gar Heard) who's been a part of his success as top assistant than he should be able to and Herb could go back to the role he had behind Lenny and Helm
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7/26/2005  1:09 PM
There's nothing sickening about keeping Herb on--what burden is he to Larry Brown? That's crazy talk.
"He only went to Georgia Tech for one year, and that's an engineering school." -LB
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7/26/2005  1:11 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

I find all this love for Herb to be a little sickening. I mean I understand that he has a long relationship with Madison Garden and the Knicks but correct me if I am wrong, he wasn't the head coach, he was the interim. Now Brown has to be saddled with Herb in order to project "I am not a bad guy" image.

what a stupid thing to say.
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7/26/2005  1:12 PM
Posted by pizza:
Posted by Pharzeone:

I find all this love for Herb to be a little sickening. I mean I understand that he has a long relationship with Madison Garden and the Knicks but correct me if I am wrong, he wasn't the head coach, he was the interim. Now Brown has to be saddled with Herb in order to project "I am not a bad guy" image.

what a stupid thing to say.


Pizza-I like what you said the first time
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7/26/2005  1:13 PM
haha
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