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BRIGGS
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7/23/2005  3:16 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/3764394

i wish i could remember the 73 team but at 4, although i was probably there or plopped in front of the set, i cant recall
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7/23/2005  3:31 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/3764394

i wish i could remember the 73 team but at 4, although i was probably there or plopped in front of the set, i cant recall

I realized something with you briggs. And this is an exact science on you. Whenever you write "a good article on......" all that means in "here's an article that agrees with ME". If ever you say "here's a GOOD article on Bynum, or Frye" or whoever else, I noticed that the only "good" part about that article is that the writer has the same point of view as you do about the matter.

Just an observation

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7/23/2005  3:49 PM
Ok, its bad enough the list had Phil no.1 (that's a different debate, but I think you take either of the Reds or Riley over him), but Lenny Wilkens at 5? Lenny coached a whole lot of years and for about 20 of those years didn't do much of anything. He had some teams that put up nice win totals in Cleveland and Atlanta, but basically dissapeared in the Playoffs. Pop is a great coach. He's been coaching for many less years than the rest of them and maybe no.6 is a little too high. I'd bump Larry B. a little higher too. The Clippers have won 40 games only twice in like 20 years, and those were the years Brown coached them. He turned around a lot of clubs.
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7/23/2005  3:55 PM
Riles is over rated at that position.

Since pop is the architect of the team, its hard to say if he is a better GM or coach?

I'd move brown up a notch or two.

Daly had a nice run, debatable if he should be higher.

Hubie deserves more run for his ABA time. Not top 10 of all time.

Slick Leonard of Indiana during the ABA days had a good run too.
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Posted by Nalod:

Riles is over rated at that position.

Since pop is the architect of the team, its hard to say if he is a better GM or coach?

I'd move brown up a notch or two.

Daly had a nice run, debatable if he should be higher.

Hubie deserves more run for his ABA time. Not top 10 of all time.

Slick Leonard of Indiana during the ABA days had a good run too.

I thought Sloan would be top 10. i guess 1 of the criteria is winning the big one. daly not in there is strange too. he did well everywhere he went and won two big ones.
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7/23/2005  4:10 PM
Agree...Daly and Sloan were/are consistent winners that should get consideration. Daly brought some innovation to the table in Detroit, and did a great job with NJ later in his career. Sloan did a tremendous amount building around a 2 man team. His consistency and ability to get plenty of wins, even in the twilight Malone and Stockton's careers, was definitely impressive.
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7/23/2005  4:31 PM
[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Nalod:

Riles is over rated at that position.

Since pop is the architect of the team, its hard to say if he is a better GM or coach?

I'd move brown up a notch or two.

Daly had a nice run, debatable if he should be higher.

Hubie deserves more run for his ABA time. Not top 10 of all time.

Slick Leonard of Indiana during the ABA days had a good run too.

I thought Sloan would be top 10. i guess 1 of the criteria is winning the big one. daly not in there is strange too. he did well everywhere he went and won two big ones.
BRIGGS you are really going to have to learn to master this quote thing. You have nearly 4000 posts, you're actually over due don't you think?

[Edited by - Killa4luv on 07/23/2005 16:32:53]
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7/23/2005  6:06 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by BRIGGS:

[quote]Posted by Nalod:

Riles is over rated at that position.

Since pop is the architect of the team, its hard to say if he is a better GM or coach?

I'd move brown up a notch or two.

Daly had a nice run, debatable if he should be higher.

Hubie deserves more run for his ABA time. Not top 10 of all time.

Slick Leonard of Indiana during the ABA days had a good run too.

I thought Sloan would be top 10. i guess 1 of the criteria is winning the big one. daly not in there is strange too. he did well everywhere he went and won two big ones.
BRIGGS you are really going to have to learn to master this quote thing. You have nearly 4000 posts, you're actually over due don't you think?

[Edited by - Killa4luv on 07/23/2005 16:32:53]
rofl. we luv briggs, but he does not seem to follow the rules of posting that we do.
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7/23/2005  6:24 PM
I think Phil is a great coach, but I think Red Auerbach deserves to be number 1.
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7/23/2005  6:24 PM
Phil may have all the rings, but I think he is a little over rated to be #1. We'll see how he does in LA with only one superstar, and one that he doesn't like that much. I was surprised to see Lenny that high and Larry so down...
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7/23/2005  6:28 PM
Did you guys read this?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/3823518

The battle of kool-aid vs. pessimism... I mean, reality check

[Edited by - KnicksFan on 07/23/2005 18:31:43]
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7/23/2005  6:29 PM
Larry in my opinion is the best coach ever. He won in college and everywhere else that he has been. The man is a winner. He went to the finals with Philly, Indy, Detroit, and others....
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7/23/2005  6:41 PM
Posted by diderotn:

Larry in my opinion is the best coach ever.

that is quite a reach
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7/23/2005  6:47 PM
In my opinion.......
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7/23/2005  6:49 PM
Posted by diderotn:

In my opinion.......

I think Jay's trying to say your opinion sucks. jk Dido. I think Larry is up there with the greats, but not better then Phil or Red.
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7/23/2005  6:53 PM
How is Phil better when he coached Jordan and Pippen, Shaq and Kobe???? Who did Larry have??? Let's see how the Lakers do with Phil this season...

Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by diderotn:

In my opinion.......

I think Jay's trying to say your opinion sucks. jk Dido. I think Larry is up there with the greats, but not better then Phil or Red.
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7/23/2005  7:03 PM
Posted by diderotn:

How is Phil better when he coached Jordan and Pippen, Shaq and Kobe???? Who did Larry have??? Let's see how the Lakers do with Phil this season...

Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by diderotn:

In my opinion.......

I think Jay's trying to say your opinion sucks. jk Dido. I think Larry is up there with the greats, but not better then Phil or Red.

You can't argue with 9 rings and the Triangle is one of the most succesful offenses in NBA history. You are right though, we'll see how Phil does this year, I'm not saying I think he's the best basketball mind to ever grace the sidelines but you can't argue with the man's success.
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7/23/2005  7:23 PM
I will not argue his success, but when it comes to coaching, Larry is the better coach. I would say that Larry and Riley are in the same class.
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7/23/2005  7:52 PM
Posted by Knicksfan:

Did you guys read this?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/3823518

The battle of kool-aid vs. pessimism... I mean, reality check

[Edited by - KnicksFan on 07/23/2005 18:31:43]

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7/23/2005  10:17 PM
Different coaches are good at different things ... in different situations. Phil is great at coaching great players and teams ... getting them to buy into his system, put team first, and reach their potential. But we should remember, he didn't invent the triangle. I wonder whether he really taught it or whehter that was Tex.

Larry Brown is great at making mediocre teams good. He also showed with Detroit that he's great at making very good teams great. He's great at teaching. IMO, he's a very good game coach. His team always seems to score after his TO's. He seeks challenges. I'd much rather have him coaching the Knicks next year than Phil. And he's much better than 10 on that list.

Riley did it in LA, with what I consider to be the best team ever put together, but could never get over the hump w/ the Knicks or the Heat. Don't think he deserves such a high ranking.

Don't really know enough some of the older guys to question their position on the list.
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