At the time the trade was good. Knicks needed a passing point guard bad and many thought they'd go over the hump. Don't forget, Knicks have a mentally strong Camby that series they win. Raptors took 76ers to 7 games, and 76ers wound up in the Finals. We had Jackson for his last good year, so it was worth it then. But now, yeah, that pick would help, but you can't look at it in retrospect and say it was a bad move by Layden because that's unfair to him.

Posted by BigSm00th:

At the time the trade was good. Knicks needed a passing point guard bad and many thought they'd go over the hump. Don't forget, Knicks have a mentally strong Camby that series they win. Raptors took 76ers to 7 games, and 76ers wound up in the Finals. We had Jackson for his last good year, so it was worth it then. But now, yeah, that pick would help, but you can't look at it in retrospect and say it was a bad move by Layden because that's unfair to him.

The trade was never good at any time. You gave up a point that could shoot the ball in Childs for a sloth in Jackson. Sure he can pass but he can't shoot and he is a defensive liability. He doesn't help the situation when Spree and Houston are being doubled especially with Camby and him on the floor at the same time.

"He doesn't help the situation when Spree and Houston are being doubled especially with Camby and him on the floor at the same time."

When in God's name are Spree and Houston doubled? They needed somebody to get them the ball and thats why they got Jackson.

It was a good trade. We had a PG situation that was worse than we have now. The ball wasnt moving at all. Something had to be done. Jackson was 2nd in the league in Assists at that point. Its 2 years later things have changed. But it was a great move at the time and still is. But now we most move on and get another point. Times change.

The Knicks were a good team last year but I think the addition of Jackson made them worse. The offense was a stagnant offense it became slower, worse defensively and I put that on the point guard. It spilled over to this year. Why do you think the Pacers traded him and Toranto too they saw him as the weak link on their team. They knew that they had to go in another direction. Layden saw that too and he went and got Eisley this year, he didn't know Eisley would be a total bust. If the Knick want to win they definitely have to go in another direction, Jax has had his run in the NBA and should consider coaching.

I agree Jackson is now past his prime. I hope Layden and Dolan both see the Knicks won't be contenders and therefore should try to rebuild, apparently they think they can contend for a title, which is ridiculous.

I also remember Childs having a huge, immovable contract and that was one of the reasons the Knicks jumped at the opportunity to get rid of him.

Posted by nykinoz:

Posted by BigSm00th:

I also remember Childs having a huge, immovable contract and that was one of the reasons the Knicks jumped at the opportunity to get rid of him.

Childs is now out of contract and is a FA. He was making about 5mil, but will probably resign with the Raps for about half that, depending on who Toronto draft.

Yeah I think Childs will have to accept a paycut because Keon CLark should demand a pretty good contract now that he's a restricted FA...

trade othella for a 1st round pick? maybe late teens, to mid twenties?

Posted by tkf:

yea, I have harped on this topic quite a bit on RealGm.com I hated that trade because we gave up the draft pick and childs had a shorter Deal than Jax, It was a bad deal then and looks even worse now, also although I like Othella I think we traded our other 1st round pick with strickland to get him, so we could of had 3 first round picks this year, that would have put us in a great position to make deals and really start rebuilding this team... this is why I put so little trust in Layden to turn this team around..