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EnySpree
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7/18/2005  7:35 PM
Yeah....

So he is a guy that has averaged 20 and 8 his entire career.....

Trading Timmy for him could make sense to Portland......I dunno.

He is a threat to score all over the floor. The pick and roll with Marbs? That could work. Rahim is light on his feet and can run still so thats good too....

Thoughts?
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7/18/2005  7:36 PM
I'd rather let NJ have that bum...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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7/18/2005  7:44 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

I'd rather let NJ have that bum...

Why is he a bum? 20 and 8 on losing teams? He's still a good player. Mitch Richman didn't make the playoffs until he got with the Lakers if I'm not mistaken....he still was a great player.

Knicks need what he brings.......don't you think?
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7/18/2005  7:46 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

I'd rather let NJ have that bum...

Yeah I know his stats, but I agree 100% with Bobs' sentiment.
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7/18/2005  7:47 PM
It's Mitch Richmond, btw.

Anyway, Shareef is more of a career loser than Marbury. He's absent on the defensive end, and is over the hump. Again, let NJ have him. He's nowhere near a necessity and doesn't fill any gap for us.


I'D RATHER HAVE SWEETNEY THAN HIM.

THERE...

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 07/18/2005 19:47:41]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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7/18/2005  7:50 PM
Mitch Richman didn't make the playoffs until he got with the Lakers if I'm not mistaken

At GS, him Mullin and Hardaway (RUN * TMC) were a playoff team
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7/18/2005  7:51 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by bobs3304:

I'd rather let NJ have that bum...

Why is he a bum? 20 and 8 on losing teams? He's still a good player. Mitch Richman didn't make the playoffs until he got with the Lakers if I'm not mistaken....he still was a great player.

Knicks need what he brings.......don't you think?

knicks need defense, toughness, chemistry, not another scorer.
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7/18/2005  8:14 PM
Deal would include sign-and-trade with Trail BlazersBy Chad Ford
ESPN Insider

The New Jersey Nets may have found their replacement for Kenyon Martin. And he's coming at a real bargain.

A team source said the Nets are very close to an agreement with Shareef Abdur-Rahim on a six year contract worth roughly $38 million.

To make the deal work under cap rules, the Portland Trail Blazers, who own Abdur-Rahim's rights, would have to agree to sign him to the contract and then trade him to the Nets using a $5 million trade exception that the Nets own. In return, the Nets would send a future first round pick to the Blazers.

If the Nets are unable to get the Blazers to agree to a sign-and-trade, Abdur-Rahim has agreed to sign with the Nets for their mid-level exception at five years for about $28 million, according to the team source. So, either way, it looks like the Nets will get their hands on Abdur-Rahim.

Either way it's a great deal for the Nets.

The Nets refused to pay Martin, their last power forward, a max contract last summer and eventually traded him to the Nuggets for three future first round picks. The Nets used some of those picks to acquire Vince Carter from the Toronto Raptors midseason. Now they're trying to use the trade exception they received from the Martin deal to acquire Abdur-Rahim.

Abdur-Rahim might be coming at less than half the price of Martin, but he isn't half the player. Abdur-Rahim, who is 28, has averaged 19 points per game and 8.1 rebounds per game for his career. Last season he struggled through injuries, but still managed 16.8 ppg and 7.1 rpg. Martin has averaged 12.4 ppg and 5.1 rpg for his career and had 15.5 ppg and 7.3 rpg for the Nuggets last season.

If the Nets land Abdur-Rahim for the mid-level exception, look for new owner Bruce Ratner to keep spending money. The Nets still own their full mid-level exception. Their next signing could be free agent guard Keyon Dooling with part of their mid-level exception. The Nets are looking for a combo guard who can help Jason Kidd keep his minutes down to about 30 a night. They seem to have narrowed in on Dooling as their guy. If the Nets are forced to use their mid-level on Abdur-Rahim, they'll still have until July 29th to use their $5 million trade exception to acquire another free agent.

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7/18/2005  8:31 PM
Posted by McK1:
Mitch Richman didn't make the playoffs until he got with the Lakers if I'm not mistaken

At GS, him Mullin and Hardaway (RUN * TMC) were a playoff team

Well there you go.....how could i forget about them.......they were like the Michigan of the NBA.
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7/18/2005  8:32 PM
Great deal for the Nets.....but it would have been dumb for NY?

Well one thing is for sure.......a couple of names were taken off the market so I can safely say Isiah is moving into his second phase as far as the 4 spot.
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7/18/2005  8:34 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Great deal for the Nets.....but it would have been dumb for NY?

Well one thing is for sure.......a couple of names were taken off the market so I can safely say Isiah is moving into his second phase as far as the 4 spot.

as long as second phase isn't spelled T-O-I-N-E, then we're safe...
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7/18/2005  8:47 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by EnySpree:

Great deal for the Nets.....but it would have been dumb for NY?

Well one thing is for sure.......a couple of names were taken off the market so I can safely say Isiah is moving into his second phase as far as the 4 spot.

as long as second phase isn't spelled T-O-I-N-E, then we're safe...

might be!

Again Walker brings so much to a team with his skills. The Knicks would definately be formidable but still probably would be 1 piece away even after getting Walker.









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7/18/2005  8:54 PM
there goes some more cups of Zeke kool-aid.

Rahim Krstic RJ Kidd Carter. Sick!!!! Thorn is a true architect.

[Edited by - McK1 on 07/18/2005 20:55:22]
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7/18/2005  8:56 PM
Posted by McK1:

there goes the cup of Zeke kool-aid.

Rahim Krstic RJ Kidd Carter. Thorn is a true architect.

ilic waiting in the wings, and a possible MLE signee.

he knows what he's doing - he sold SAR on NEW JERSEY!!!! zeke says new york sells itself, but thorn got a player to sign in NEW F'N JERSEY. wow.

i didn't want sar, but zeke talked to swift and he said no thanks. that's nuts.

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7/18/2005  9:14 PM
the only people who want to play here are guys like James who will get 15-20 mill over what they are actually worth from Isiah
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7/18/2005  10:14 PM
You're kidding right?

Kidd is playing with a walker, Carter shot his load last year and they are week on the front line.

I'd honestly take Marbs, Q, Ariza, Frye and James over this squad anyday...forget the fact that we can bring Crawford (and now nate) off the bench...who do the nets bring off the bench?
Posted by McK1:

there goes some more cups of Zeke kool-aid.

Rahim Krstic RJ Kidd Carter. Sick!!!! Thorn is a true architect.

[Edited by - McK1 on 07/18/2005 20:55:22]
all kool aid all the time.
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7/18/2005  10:16 PM
Sure, the Knicks are better then the Nets, you have to complelty dilusional to beleive that.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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7/18/2005  10:19 PM
we'll see. I don't think the nets have ANY depth...if this were a video game and there was no fatigue, the nets take it...I'm just living in the real world of depth and matchups.

Crawford, Sweets, Rose, Nate on the bench.

Just stating facts.
all kool aid all the time.
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7/18/2005  10:22 PM
OK, I'm missing something here...the subject says he's still unsigned and the most recent news on this is:

http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkxMjYmZmdiZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTY3MjY5MDgmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2

The Nets haven't gotten any closer to a sign-and-trade with Portland for Abdur-Rahim. The Blazers haven't accepted the Nets' offer of their $4.9 million trade exception and a second-round pick. The Nets could add another No. 2 pick to sweeten the deal.

Either way, Thorn wants Abdur-Rahim to agree to come to New Jersey. If the Nets can't do a deal with Portland, Abdur-Rahim would have to take the midlevel exception, which provides a maximum of about $28 million over five years. With the trade exception, which expires July 29, Abdur-Rahim could get six years and about $38 million.

all kool aid all the time.
Rahim is still unsigned

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