The solution to that problem is unloading 1 to 2 of our PF's whether by trade or simply waiving them.

Personally, I'm not sold that our starting PF situation is solved just yet, but I'm def. willing to see how Frye pans out before passing judgement. We have some solid role-playing 4's, but just too many of them. I think Taylor and Sweetney would be the first to go, simply b/c they're only suited to the half court set, whereas we need more versatility (Frye, JYD, etc.).

Not sure who's available and when, but I'd love to be able to unload those 2, along with Penny. Granted, I'd rather keep Sweets but he's really the only PF we have with trade value. If we could get rid of Taylor that'd be amazing, but it's gonna be hard. JYD would be easier to deal, but I'd rather keep him. So this glut is far more of a problem then some realize, b/c it's gonna thwart the development of guys like Lee and Frye, especially with Herb as coach.

briggs why do u always count out JW like he isnt a good player??? i seen u place Taylor ahead of him in rotations u cant be serious... Jerome plays his ASS off and inspires everyone on the court its invaluble i would like to see hiim on the floor as much as possible

Posted by Elite:

briggs why do u always count out JW like he isnt a good player??? i seen u place Taylor ahead of him in rotations u cant be serious... Jerome plays his ASS off and inspires everyone on the court its invaluble i would like to see hiim on the floor as much as possible

The guy is cool and fun and all, but expendable. I don't want to see him on the court as much as possible, I'd rather see rose.

Sweets and Mo are post up players, can't see the reason to get rid of both unless it's for salary purposes, but then, I wouldn't mind having a JYD AND Rose. Energy and effort subbing for energy and effort.


[Edited by - rvhoss on 07/17/2005 20:50:40]

Posted by Elite:

briggs why do u always count out JW like he isnt a good player??? i seen u place Taylor ahead of him in rotations u cant be serious... Jerome plays his ASS off and inspires everyone on the court its invaluble i would like to see hiim on the floor as much as possible

nothing against the JYD. the JYD will be 33 next season and i feel like it is time to move younger. im hoping that a team can see value in the JYD--maybe a weatherspoon for JYD swap for a year less on the contract and loosen up the roster. cw wouldnt care if he doesnt play, and jyd on the rockets would be a nice fit. our team needs to find ways for ariza and lee to play--its the cycle we are in

Posted by BRIGGS:

i think 4-5 will work itself out well

And how exactly do you figure that????????

Posted by BRIGGS:

our team needs to find ways for ariza and lee to play--its the cycle we are in

Maybe you missed the memo, but we are trying to win, not shift a roster around so 2 developing players get 30 minutes per game.

I think we will see alot of 3 guard playing because that will be our best offensive lineup, and it will allow Marbs to be really creative with the ball.

I think the lineup is one of these:

Steph
Q
TT
Sweets
James

or

Steph
Craw
Q
TT
James

I really don't see how it would be anything other than those two.

Posted by Killa4luv:

[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

our team needs to find ways for ariza and lee to play--its the cycle we are in

Maybe you missed the memo, but we are trying to win, not shift a roster around so 2 developing players get 30 minutes per game.


our team scked last year, it's IMPERATIVE to get Frye and Nate NICE minutes, not because they are developing, because they bring superior individual assets to winning. This is a transition period, if we win great, but the main theme must be driving in the right direction and that starts with the young guys being inergrated heavily. I think Frye and Nate will help on defense where guys like EVERYONE in our backcourt and most of the frontcourt cant. These guys are both lottery talents, WE ARE NOT GOOD enough with the guys we had, at the first hint of a Tim Thomas let down, personally I think that is all for TT and the Knicks. He better bring it in day 1 and he better realize that we are sharing time here.

Isiah has done a good job in terms of the draft and the younger players w epicked up like craw. He hasnt faired well with vets. this team needs a strong youthful infusion. It worked VERY VERY well for the Bulls last year. I can see Nate being able to bring a Ben gordon like impact, and I feel IF they keep Frye in the right position, he will be a 15+7 guy who can block 2 shots and shoot +50%

Im much more of a craw guy than Q, I like the way Craw ended the season. Id like to give him every opportunity to start it right back up like that, although he will get less minutes.

I can see Q as the 6th man and a guy we can use in 3 and 4 guard set ups.

the rooks will have to EARN their minutes.

isiah at the q&a:

Q: "why didn't you play ariza and sweets down the stretch of the season after the season was over?"

A: "my belief is that you earn your minutes. nothing should be handed to you and it was my call for them not to get extensive minutes. i wanted them to earn what they get, minutes won't be handed out"

translation - nate, lee, and EVEN frye will have to play their way to minutes. (maybe not frye but i'm not sure). but i easily seeing nate being 3rd string PG BEHIND craw for now - maybe getting 8-10 mins a night. lee will be LUCKY to crack 3 mins a game b/c of the roster problem. frye will get chances but don't be surprised with many 10-15 min nights.

Posted by bobs3304:

exactly what I've been trying to say.

it awaits to be seen whether Isiah will push for another trade before the deadline (to reel in a legit starting PF), but I think everyone would admit that it's something atleast worth looking into.

i totally don't agree with it tho. they really need to throw them out into the fire - like what we SHOULD'VE done with sweets last season instead of some half assed attempt. if we just purely ran the offense through him for those last 5-7 games in april, we may have a better idea if we could've run the offense through him at all. but we're still stuck in limbo with him. it was a wasted opportunity for us.