Channing had a nice game against weak foes... Lee keeps rolling.. Nate solid.

http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/gameday/knicks_recap_050716.html

if nate produces half of what he does in the SL, we are all set for the backup G positions

Good to see frye,lee and nate continue to play well, frye had his way it sounds like from the write up on the wolves SL page and nice stats for just 17 minutes of play...

Posted by rain:

Posted by bobs3304:

I think we need to bring in a K-Mart-esque type of player that provides all the intangibles, but doesn't need Max. MPG to be effective. Hopefully, we can bring in a PF that can play solid D and do all the little things for us.

Could Lee be the guy your talking about? Not Kmart's hops but everything else seems to point to a guy with versatility, smarts, defense, ball mobving skills and intensity. All this with plus athleticism. Think about it.

Yea- I mean we got a bunch of those guys- Lee, Rose & JYD.

What was the final score?

Posted by teslawlo:

Posted by NYK3:

did you guys see the higlights of Nates putback dunk?...all i have to say is WOW, it didnt count but it was still crazy for someone his size

anyone got vid of that

watch sportsdesk right now if you can, it just started so the Knicks highlights should be on in about 10 minutes

I agree if you think we are a playoff team.

However, I personally don't think we are, we are a bad team and we should play our rooks a lot.

You are 100% right, however there is one problem with it all.

No matter what IT thinks, the teams sucks. That is why I was and am against the trades for Taylor, Rose, James, etc.

These role playes will not make us a playoff team. Not even close. And Marbury has proven that he is not gonna do that all by himself either. He needs a 2nd star player to help him out. Just like any other star player, just ask Kobe and Garnett. You can't even make the playoffs as a one man team. Unless your coach is Larry Brown and you are Iverson.



[Edited by - simrud on 07/17/2005 13:08:22]

Posted by bobs3304:

Posted by simrud:

You are 100% right, however there is one problem with it all.

No matter what IT thinks, the teams sucks. That is why I was and am against the trades for Taylor, Rose, James, etc.

These role playes will not make us a playoff team. Not even close. And Marbury has proven that he is not gonna do that all by himself either. He needs a 2nd star player to help him out. Just like any other star player, just ask Kobe and Garnett. You can't even make the playoffs as a one man team. Unless your coach is Larry Brown and you are Iverson.

[Edited by - simrud on 07/17/2005 13:08:22]

which is why I expect Isiah to use Penny, Sweetney, and a draft pick to land a legit Big Man to compliment James and put this team over the top.

it all depends on who's available and when...

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 07/17/2005 13:12:50]

Please stop insisting that Isiah is going to trade trash for treasure. How many "quality" big men are there in the league? If a GM traded one of the better big men in the league for Penny they would be fired the next day regardless of the cap savings. That is just not going to happen. Look at what we're being asked to give up/take on for Antoine. That should give you an idea of what it would take to get a player better than that. We need to let some of those contracts die out. We have multiple players who will be making more than 2 million per minute played this year, (Rose, Mo, Penny, JYD). Rose is really the best front court player left on this roster, but he can't get huge minutes on this team.

Also we can't just get any big man that a team wants to jettison. We'd have to get one that fits the system, and those are even more rare. In the end we are better off now and in the long run starting Frye at the 4 and using Rose, Sweets, and James at center. The truth is that if this team is coached well we have the pieces to be successful this year.

Steph - Nate
Q-Rich - Craw
TT - Ariza
Frye - JYD - Lee - Taylor
Rose - James - Sweets

Really this is a big talent jump from last year, so its all up to the coaching. They should either get Westphal and Ewing in here to be assistants or Isiah should just coach the team and stop making all these moves.

Posted by bobs3304:

There's always a slight chance guys like Elton Brand will be available sometime down the road. But more likely than not, they won't. But there are, without a doubt, still options out there that WOULD fit in well and who would be attainable for the right price.

AND FOR THE LAST TIME -- Frye is a ROOKIE. Jesus. How many minutes do you expect a rookie to get? I see 20 a game as a possibility, but no more than that. He's not starter material, and as a matter of fact, no other PF we have is. Only JYD provides any assemblance of weak-side help, and even then, he's not starting-caliber. We need a K-Mart type of player, plain and simple.

Frye may be that for us in 2-3 years, but certainly not now. I agree we should wait until training camp and the early stages of next season to actually find out for sure, but I'm confident nonetheless that another trade will be necessary before the deadline...

Bobs, come on... Brand? For TT and what? Wasn't the whole point of Frye and James to have a shotblocking presence that we haven't had since Camby? So we're going to play Mo Taylor and Rose instead?

In reality James is not going to play more than half the minutes at center, he's done nothing to suggest that's possible. That means we have to have Rose available to sub for him, and Frye has to start at the 4. The only other answer is starting Tim Thomas at the 4, with Q and Craw at the 2 and 3. Honestly that's horrble. The team would still be tiny.

The whole point of this off-season was to get bigger, if we can't get Frye to play starter minutes then we will be smaller than ever.

Well, I think Frye should play all the minutes he can, he is clearly the best bigman on the team. It does not say much abou the rest of the bigs, but if he is the better one, why not play him more minutes and have him learn through his mistakes?