Posted by rvhoss:

the knicks had 3 bad years, for most teams, this is a regular occurence.

We are looking to get out of this hole...baby steps.

We've been to the finals and been denied by jordan for the last 15 years.

In 19 months the roster is completely different and we are ready to take another run at the title.

Last seasons 16 - 13 stat was not a fluke, everything that happened after that was.

Now this team is better than last year's, whic could lead to a 20 and 10 start.

Why are those in the minority of this thinking finding it so hard to believe that we have a chance to make a run next year?

if chicago can do it with a bunch of no names and a strongly drafted sixth man rookie...the wizards can use players playing above themselves in a contract year to get bounced from the playoffs...if indiana can do it with both of their superstars suspended for half the season...

Why can't the knicks?

Posted by NYK3:

the truth is none of us know what the heck is going to happen.

Posted by roblackman:

I know one thing, we can run with any team in the league now--we won't be getting beat down the floor on a consistent basis anymore. That's quite a turnaround from the previous years.

Posted by NYK3:

Im not gonna sit here and make predictions like last year, the truth is none of us know what the heck is going to happen. I think we could win around 43-47 games but then also we could possible win 33-37 games. I also agree with rvhoss in that if teams like Washington and Chicago had such a great run last year why cant we??

Posted by fishmike:

Bulls didnt add no names. They added top tier rookie talent in Gordon and Deng. They added a solid overseas player in Noccioni and they added a 4 year PG from a top program in Deng. They shipped off their most erratic player and brought in a tough coach that pushed defense.

The Knicks have upgraded their talent, but nothing close to what the Bulls did in their last offseason

Posted by Marv:

Posted by fishmike:

Bulls didnt add no names. They added top tier rookie talent in Gordon and Deng. They added a solid overseas player in Noccioni and they added a 4 year PG from a top program in Deng. They shipped off their most erratic player and brought in a tough coach that pushed defense.

The Knicks have upgraded their talent, but nothing close to what the Bulls did in their last offseason

"They shipped off their most erratic player" - uh oh, that would seem to explain a lot of the difference between the standings of the 2 franchises then, wouldn't it?

But seriously couldn't you say that theoretically we've equaled what they did? Isn't Nate looking like he could do what Gordon did last year if given the minutes? Believe me i'm not minimizing Gordon he was spectacular, but shoot, just look at Nate.

Q could easily equal Deng's production, I believe.

James could give the contributions that Nocioni did.

That still leaves us with Frye and Lee and them with Duhon.

And clearing out KT was IMO a necessary change.

I think we did fantastically.

Now about that tough coach to push defense . . .

the bulls also had a young nucleus that finally started to click and buy in to skiles coaching.

theoretically, if everything comes together, something similar could happen to us.

I still think we're too much frankenstein's monster with too many odd parts- Q, MT, TT, craw, JJ are just players that IT was able to get with the weak assets we had- while they might be an improvement, they are still just a collection of parts-

kinda like the johnny cash song- one piece at a time