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bobs3304
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7/15/2005  10:32 AM
I was browsing through RealGM and it's pretty clear that Isiah would more likely than not still look to trade for Stro Swift. Only problem is that Memphis would rather pawn off one of their undesired contracts on us. Well, try this on for size:

NY Gets:

Resigned Swift (9 Mill per)
Lorenzen Wright

MEM Gets:

Penny
Sweetney
Boris Diaw
Future 2nd from ATL
Future 1st from NY (Lottery Protected)

ATL Gets:

Jason Williams

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 07/15/2005 10:41:47]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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7/15/2005  10:39 AM
Not bad. Would Atlanta want to give up a future (protected) first and Boris Diaw for JWill though? I know they need a PG, but I'm not sure of that.
bobs3304
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7/15/2005  10:40 AM
Posted by VDesai:

Not bad. Would Atlanta want to give up a future (protected) first and Boris Diaw for JWill though? I know they need a PG, but I'm not sure of that.

Maybe we give up the protected 1st. Either way...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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7/15/2005  10:41 AM
Yeah. I think if you take the 1st rounder then it is a fair deal for everybody.
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7/15/2005  10:41 AM
Posted by VDesai:

Not bad. Would Atlanta want to give up a future (protected) first and Boris Diaw for JWill though? I know they need a PG, but I'm not sure of that.
It depends how they feel about J Will. I like him and I think he'd be perfect for the uptempo offense they ought to be running.
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7/15/2005  10:42 AM
9 millions per season to Swift??? WOW, that's overpaying I think.
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7/15/2005  10:42 AM
Posted by NYKBocker:

Yeah. I think if you take the 1st rounder then it is a fair deal for everybody.

I fixed it so that we end up giving Memphis the 1st, ATL giving them a future 2nd.

Thoughts?
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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7/15/2005  10:42 AM
I meant to say I like this alot! Penny for Swift? sign me up!
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7/15/2005  10:43 AM
Posted by DarkKnicks:

9 millions per season to Swift??? WOW, that's overpaying I think.

That's how much his agent expects and how much we'd need to offer to get him.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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7/15/2005  10:44 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:

I meant to say I like this alot! Penny for Swift? sign me up!

Well the only important player we're giving up in this deal is Sweetney. I don't know if I'd give up the first. But as much as I like Sweets, I'm ok with giving him up to get Swift and Wright (who has his uses).
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7/15/2005  10:48 AM
I think Memphis only gives away this much talent if they're getting back picks in the package...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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7/15/2005  10:49 AM
Sweetney, a first round pick, and Penny's expiring contract for Stromile swift at 9 Million per? For how many years?

I think Stromile Swift is very good backup and a solid starter in a pinch, but I don't see how this would be a good move for us. When it comes down to it, I think we will get similar production from Sweetney cmpared to what Swift has shown thus far in his career.

oohah

Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
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7/15/2005  10:49 AM
memphis would let swift walk for nothing but something like this to make it easier:

sweets + jyd + #2 + cash

for

stro (S&T for $9 mil)


man, i hate giving up sweets tho. he's in stealth mode so far. and i think that's a good thing. i think he's serious about fixing his body and if he comes in all jacked up - then we may have a monster on our hands.
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7/15/2005  10:50 AM
Posted by oohah:

Sweetney, a first round pick, and Penny's expiring contract for Lorenzen Wright and Stromile swift at 9 Million per? For how many years?

I think Stromile Swift is very good backup and a solid starter in a pinch, but I don't see how this would be a good move for us. When it comes down to it, I think we will get similar production from Sweetney cmpared to what Swift has shown thus far in his career.

The addition of Lorenzen is okay, but he takes frye's spot or someone else we might try to develop.

oohah
Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
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7/15/2005  10:51 AM
I am sorry, I keep clicking the wrong $#$%#% button

oohah

Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
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7/15/2005  10:54 AM
I don't want to give up any future #1's in this deal.
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7/15/2005  11:04 AM
Pretend for a second you're a Grizz fan:

A.) They don't want MORE unwanted contracts, they're trying to get rid of them.

B.) They want cap space.

C.) They're expecting a draft pick or two.

D.) They'd also like a young, cheap talent or 2 in return.


The reason some of you don't like giving up the Future 1st is b/c you're biased. You can't see it from their point of view. The deal isn't just for Stro, it's for Lorenzen Wright, who is a quality Center and would split minutes evenly with James. 9 Mill per for Stro is just about how much his agent will demand.

Hell, Atlanta might even have to fork over a Future protected 1st, too. The asking price is gonna be high for many of West's players, b/c they're valuable, just not in Memphis anymore...

DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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7/15/2005  11:05 AM
Posted by bobs3304:
Posted by DarkKnicks:

9 millions per season to Swift??? WOW, that's overpaying I think.

That's how much his agent expects and how much we'd need to offer to get him.
Yeah, that's the market. People may not like how much these guys are getting paid, but the only other option is to not sign FAs and to not improve the team. I'd rather overpay a young athlete with high potential
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7/15/2005  11:19 AM
The reason some of you don't like giving up the Future 1st is b/c you're biased. You can't see it from their point of view. The deal isn't just for Stro, it's for Lorenzen Wright, who is a quality Center and would split minutes evenly with James. 9 Mill per for Stro is just about how much his agent will demand.

Hell, Atlanta might even have to fork over a Future protected 1st, too. The asking price is gonna be high for many of West's players, b/c they're valuable, just not in Memphis anymore...

That may be true, but if I can't use just my expiring contracts in a deal, I say forget it. This team is still likely headed for the lottery again in the next draft regardless of moves made this summer.
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7/15/2005  11:50 AM
Isiah would gladly overpay for Stro, then head into another disappointing lottery season...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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