Posted by BigAppleStar3:
Posted by roblackman:
Herb should get a 2nd chance because he never got a 1st chance! The team sucked last year and it was hardly the fault of the coach. He was never given the opportunity to implement his ideas in training camp. Gary Payton went back to Boston last year after being let go BTW.
It's not like Herb Williams only got 10 or 15 games to prove himself. He got 43 games. That's more then half a season. More then enough time to show something ... anything. Tell me one single thing we improved under Herb.
And screw Gary Payton.
I don't care who coached the NY Knicks last season. At that point, they'd obviously let it. It shows on defense. Defense is all effort and their defense got worse. This means that didn't play hard. I don't care if Isiah brought in Red Holzman himself, that squad flat out started looking towards the offseason no matter what they were told. Period. I don't think that reflects on Herb as much as the situation itself. No team, who are pretty much already on a downward spiral, turns it around under the same coach the same season and become totally different. And don't say NJ because they were still among the best teams in the east when they were playing inconsistantly. The Knicks on the other hand, in my opinion, accepted their fate by the time Lenny was canned.
Also, Stan Van Gundy is not availible at the moment. And may never be availible. And if Riley does take over, which he hasn';t said that he would, there's a possibility that Stan will go back to being his assistant like he originally was. P.J. Carlesimo is the worst...NEXT! He's proven to me that I hate his coaching style, I'd rather have someone that I could potentially like than someone who I already know I don't like. As far as Larry Brown, all that can be done is play the waiting game. What else is there to do?
Lastly, the fact that Herb wanted to be waived and come back here and then got a job in the front office and then on the bench shows me that he's dedicated to the franchise and wants us to win. ALthough I'd rather Larry Brown, we all know that if Brown comes here and doesn't like how it's going down he will be gone in a season. He's just the oposite of Herb. No loyalty. I don't blame him, but he is who he is.
7/14/2005 6:59 PM