[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

NBA INSIDER - More Chad Ford Rumblings
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum
Page 1 of 5  1  2  3 Next ›Last »
« Reply To Topic
Author Thread
bobs3304
Posts: 24827
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 7/5/2005
Member: #948
7/12/2005  1:10 PM
From RealGM Knick Forum:

"An NBA insider was quoted by Chad Ford as saying "The Atlanta Hawks are about to run into a string of luck like no one has seen in recent years." This insider who has ties to numerous sources around the league told media sources Monday that the Hawks are about to pull off three moves that will immediatley change the face of this franchise for the next decade. First, it has been reported that Joe Johson is all but a lock to play for the Hawks next season. Johnson, who is looking for more money out of Pheonix, has reported that moving on to Atlanta is not only an option he has considered but one he sees as likely. Second, sources close to the New York Knicks report that Stephon Marbury is on the block and is in heavy discussions with the Hawks about filling their PG void in a trade that would send Marbury and players to be named later to the Hawks for Al Harrington, Tony Delk, and Ty Lue. Last, ties close to The Bulls have stated that Eddy Curry wants as far away from the windy city as possible and is considering anyone that will match his desired pricetag. With the acquisitions of Joe Johnson, Marbury, and Curry, added to Josh Smith, Josh Childress, and newly acquired stud Marvin Williams the Hawks have playoffs written all over them."


I shudder to think if Chad Ford is either A.) Right or B.) more F.O.S. than we could have possibly imagined.

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 07/12/2005 13:11:19]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
AUTOADVERT
rain
Posts: 20762
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/13/2002
Member: #353
USA
7/12/2005  1:12 PM
Please tell me we'd also have picks coming our way. Like two first rounders...
Marv
Posts: 35540
Alba Posts: 69
Joined: 9/2/2002
Member: #315
7/12/2005  1:12 PM
i vote B

If you're the GM of the NY Knicks can you ever for the life of you imagine trading Stephon Marbury for Harrington, Delk and Lue?
bobs3304
Posts: 24827
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 7/5/2005
Member: #948
7/12/2005  1:14 PM
Actually, I'm assuming "and players to be named" means we'd be sending Malik Rose or Taylor to Atlanta. Picks or no picks, that would save us a BUNDLE in cap space.


That said, Chad Ford, while being a professional, sometimes goes a little TOO far with these rumors. He needs to stop overextending himself like this. How stupid will he look if Atlanta goes 0/3...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
gunsnewing
Posts: 55076
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 2/24/2002
Member: #215
USA
7/12/2005  1:17 PM
I was just gonna post thatif we're going to trade Marbury and his ridiculous $22mil per year for cap relief the Hawks trade for the expiring contracts of Harrington, delk, collier & the Hawks and a 1st round pick would be the best trade to make. Very similar to how Phoenix unloaded Marbury on us. The Hawks are the only team I realistically see wanting marbury since the fans love him there and teams are overpaying for talent at the moment.

This would allow us to bring in championship calibur players for that $22mil per year to surround our young players with
franco12
Posts: 34069
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 2/19/2004
Member: #599
USA
7/12/2005  1:23 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

From RealGM Knick Forum:

"An NBA insider was quoted by Chad Ford as saying "The Atlanta Hawks are about to run into a string of luck like no one has seen in recent years." This insider who has ties to numerous sources around the league told media sources Monday that the Hawks are about to pull off three moves that will immediatley change the face of this franchise for the next decade. First, it has been reported that Joe Johson is all but a lock to play for the Hawks next season. Johnson, who is looking for more money out of Pheonix, has reported that moving on to Atlanta is not only an option he has considered but one he sees as likely. Second, sources close to the New York Knicks report that Stephon Marbury is on the block and is in heavy discussions with the Hawks about filling their PG void in a trade that would send Marbury and players to be named later to the Hawks for Al Harrington, Tony Delk, and Ty Lue. Last, ties close to The Bulls have stated that Eddy Curry wants as far away from the windy city as possible and is considering anyone that will match his desired pricetag. With the acquisitions of Joe Johnson, Marbury, and Curry, added to Josh Smith, Josh Childress, and newly acquired stud Marvin Williams the Hawks have playoffs written all over them."


I shudder to think if Chad Ford is either A.) Right or B.) more F.O.S. than we could have possibly imagined.

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 07/12/2005 13:11:19]

How are they just going to get two RFAs?

Phoenix will match & Chicago would probably match and trade him as soon as they could.

And isn't this old stuff?
franco12
Posts: 34069
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 2/19/2004
Member: #599
USA
7/12/2005  1:24 PM
And did dolan suddenly buy the hawks? throwing money around like that
bobs3304
Posts: 24827
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 7/5/2005
Member: #948
7/12/2005  1:24 PM
Well, don't jump to conclusions just yet. Isiah, like I've said before, is covering all bases. He's keeping his options open. By "serious" discussions, I think he means they're talking. Nothing more to it.

What I find really hard to belive is JJ passing up the Suns for the Hawks, even if there's a slight discrepancy in $$$. Longer contract with the Suns almost makes up for it anyway...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
bobs3304
Posts: 24827
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 7/5/2005
Member: #948
7/12/2005  1:25 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by bobs3304:

From RealGM Knick Forum:

"An NBA insider was quoted by Chad Ford as saying "The Atlanta Hawks are about to run into a string of luck like no one has seen in recent years." This insider who has ties to numerous sources around the league told media sources Monday that the Hawks are about to pull off three moves that will immediatley change the face of this franchise for the next decade. First, it has been reported that Joe Johson is all but a lock to play for the Hawks next season. Johnson, who is looking for more money out of Pheonix, has reported that moving on to Atlanta is not only an option he has considered but one he sees as likely. Second, sources close to the New York Knicks report that Stephon Marbury is on the block and is in heavy discussions with the Hawks about filling their PG void in a trade that would send Marbury and players to be named later to the Hawks for Al Harrington, Tony Delk, and Ty Lue. Last, ties close to The Bulls have stated that Eddy Curry wants as far away from the windy city as possible and is considering anyone that will match his desired pricetag. With the acquisitions of Joe Johnson, Marbury, and Curry, added to Josh Smith, Josh Childress, and newly acquired stud Marvin Williams the Hawks have playoffs written all over them."


I shudder to think if Chad Ford is either A.) Right or B.) more F.O.S. than we could have possibly imagined.

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 07/12/2005 13:11:19]

How are they just going to get two RFAs?

Phoenix will match & Chicago would probably match and trade him as soon as they could.

And isn't this old stuff?

No, this came out today. Grabbed it from the RealGM Knicks Forum. Ask them about it, I'd rather not....
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
mattchless
Posts: 20076
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 6/21/2005
Member: #912
7/12/2005  1:31 PM
entertaining this:

The Knicks future would be:

PG - Crawford and Nate
SG - Q
SF - Ariza and Lee
PF - Harrington and Sweetney
C - Frye

?
Allanfan20
Posts: 35947
Alba Posts: 50
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #542
USA
7/12/2005  1:31 PM
That Hawk trade would be TERRIBLE. We wouldn't be bringing in Harrington for his expiring contract. Isiah loves him and would keep him. Plus, this creates a God Awful even worse logjam at the guard position with Delk and Lue, who are worthy of minutes. No thanks to that trade. Marbury is better than Harrington anyway. I don't see what Zeke likes in that trade, but not in Dalembert. I would hand in my Knick card if we did that, and then signed WALKER.
“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
NYKBocker
Posts: 38420
Alba Posts: 474
Joined: 1/14/2003
Member: #377
USA
7/12/2005  1:38 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

From RealGM Knick Forum:

"An NBA insider was quoted by Chad Ford as saying "The Atlanta Hawks are about to run into a string of luck like no one has seen in recent years." This insider who has ties to numerous sources around the league told media sources Monday that the Hawks are about to pull off three moves that will immediatley change the face of this franchise for the next decade. First, it has been reported that Joe Johson is all but a lock to play for the Hawks next season. Johnson, who is looking for more money out of Pheonix, has reported that moving on to Atlanta is not only an option he has considered but one he sees as likely. Second, sources close to the New York Knicks report that Stephon Marbury is on the block and is in heavy discussions with the Hawks about filling their PG void in a trade that would send Marbury and players to be named later to the Hawks for Al Harrington, Tony Delk, and Ty Lue. Last, ties close to The Bulls have stated that Eddy Curry wants as far away from the windy city as possible and is considering anyone that will match his desired pricetag. With the acquisitions of Joe Johnson, Marbury, and Curry, added to Josh Smith, Josh Childress, and newly acquired stud Marvin Williams the Hawks have playoffs written all over them."


I shudder to think if Chad Ford is either A.) Right or B.) more F.O.S. than we could have possibly imagined.

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 07/12/2005 13:11:19]

Hmmm. Ty Lue is a UFA. Is this a sign and trade? The Hawks are in need of a PF. We have an abundance of that type. Unless we get one of their SFs, I say no thanks.

A Marbury, Rose, JYD for Josh Smith, Harrington and Collier is intruiging though. I would do that trade. It would be easier to trade Sweetney and Ariza now with Josh Smith in hand.

[Edited by - NYKBocker on 07/12/2005 13:39:17]
bobs3304
Posts: 24827
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 7/5/2005
Member: #948
7/12/2005  1:41 PM
From Isiah's standpoint:


He likes Harrington

Harrington is still young

Even with Re-signing Harrington next year, it would give us atleast 12+ Million in cap space, and probably more considering we'd be dumping Malik or Taylor on ATL as well - ("Marbury and players to be named later for..."

The Hawks would more than likely give us a Future 1st

It gives us a legitimate reason to enter a brief rebuilding stage, and even more so, a reason to go after guys like Stro and Kwame

Assuming Larry Brown isn't available at that juncture, Herb would be given an opportunity to develop young talent...



That's how I see Isiah envisioning the pros of that trade.


DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
gunsnewing
Posts: 55076
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 2/24/2002
Member: #215
USA
7/12/2005  1:41 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

That Hawk trade would be TERRIBLE. We wouldn't be bringing in Harrington for his expiring contract. Isiah loves him and would keep him. Plus, this creates a God Awful even worse logjam at the guard position with Delk and Lue, who are worthy of minutes. No thanks to that trade. Marbury is better than Harrington anyway. I don't see what Zeke likes in that trade, but not in Dalembert. I would hand in my Knick card if we did that, and then signed WALKER.

if Isiah makes this lobsided trade its because he wants to dump Marbury's Contract and truly rebuild the team very quickly like Phoenix did. Not because he thinks Harrington is the answer. Although he will hype him up to new york fans at first
bobs3304
Posts: 24827
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 7/5/2005
Member: #948
7/12/2005  1:45 PM
SupremeCommander's take on this (from RealGM):


"If it's Marbs and "players to be named later" that is pretty sweet. I am a Marbs fan, but I'm a bigger Knicks fan and the roster is more balanced with JCraw and Nate running the point. It is also more cap friendly this way.

The Hawks are buried beneath the cap and the Knicks could make them take their overpaid spare parts. The talent level of those players is all pretty much the same, so figure guys who didn't get too much PT will go, such as JYD and Rose, but maybe IT decided Mo should go

I think Harrington has stud written all over him too... and he fits the age bracket of the current Knicks. Trading TT for a starting center and garbage looks like a stronger possibility now as well."


DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
7/12/2005  1:45 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

That Hawk trade would be TERRIBLE. We wouldn't be bringing in Harrington for his expiring contract. Isiah loves him and would keep him. Plus, this creates a God Awful even worse logjam at the guard position with Delk and Lue, who are worthy of minutes. No thanks to that trade. Marbury is better than Harrington anyway. I don't see what Zeke likes in that trade, but not in Dalembert. I would hand in my Knick card if we did that, and then signed WALKER.

If ATL adds their 1st round pick in '06, & the cap space afforded from that deal gives the Knicks a realistic shot at signing Lebron in '07, i'm 100% behind that idea.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
gunsnewing
Posts: 55076
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 2/24/2002
Member: #215
USA
7/12/2005  1:46 PM
and if Harrington performs well in NY with NAte and Crawford running the point he could resign him for a reasonable amount but the point if making this deal is unloading salary in order to make a play for a big free agent. not Antoine Walker
gunsnewing
Posts: 55076
Alba Posts: 5
Joined: 2/24/2002
Member: #215
USA
7/12/2005  1:49 PM
Posted by rain:

Please tell me we'd also have picks coming our way. Like two first rounders...

we better. since thats what Phoenix got from us for Marbury! I'm pretty sure we would in a trade like this. if not then Isiah is an idiot but he values draft picks so don't worry. even if its just 1st rounder this year. or maybe one this year and one next year
crzymdups
Posts: 52018
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/1/2004
Member: #671
USA
7/12/2005  1:49 PM
This trade would be all about getting Lebron and Larry Brown to New York. It would be bizarre, but it almost seems like it needs to happen at this point. If this trade doesn't happen now, I think something very similar will happen in February near the trade deadline.
¿ △ ?
Allanfan20
Posts: 35947
Alba Posts: 50
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #542
USA
7/12/2005  1:50 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Allanfan20:

That Hawk trade would be TERRIBLE. We wouldn't be bringing in Harrington for his expiring contract. Isiah loves him and would keep him. Plus, this creates a God Awful even worse logjam at the guard position with Delk and Lue, who are worthy of minutes. No thanks to that trade. Marbury is better than Harrington anyway. I don't see what Zeke likes in that trade, but not in Dalembert. I would hand in my Knick card if we did that, and then signed WALKER.

If ATL adds their 1st round pick in '06, & the cap space afforded from that deal gives the Knicks a realistic shot at signing Lebron in '07, i'm 100% behind that idea.

I'd be behind that too, but isn't LeBron a restricted free agent that year, as well as Wade, Bosh, Melo, Howard and so and so? I'd love to sign any of those guys, but if their restricted, a team can match any offer, and it's the same the year after when OK4 and Howard are RFAs.

The way I see it though. Isiah LOVES Al Harrington, and would want to extend HIM long term.
“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
Page 1 of 5  1  2  3 Next ›Last »
« Reply To Topic
NBA INSIDER - More Chad Ford Rumblings
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy