Play the whole game. Make a conscious effort to get him into position to take a good number of high quality shots. Go out of their way to showcase him. Let him take 15 high quality shots, let him play through the fouls, I dont care if we have 3-4 techs, its SL--what Channing needs is a real good run without interupption and for the guards to make it a point to get him the ball in good position and for CF to get into good position and go to work. Time to stop this panzy BS--let the kid work through the fouls and put him in position to have a really nice game for his confidence

I def. agree, but I think Aguirre is trying simulate a real game for Frye. In league play, he has to get used to having his minutes curtailed once he gets in foul trouble. Staying out of foul trouble is the lesson in mind...

I think Aguirre should continue doing just what he's doing. Channing has to bring it and be smart. This guy is a 4-Year college player and he should be advanced enough to make the adjustment. It will set him up with the wrong message to let him stay in despite the extra fouls. Play through it but play through it the right way. You commit the petty fouls you don't play.

I'm not worried about his foul situation I mean all I care is how he plays. I want to see him active and banging his body around and I don't want to see get push around like some rag doll.

I don't think there's any rush to rush Channing's minutes. That's a panic move and there's no real reason to panic yet. Yeah, he's had a few so so games in summer league, but Aguirre is trying to teach him how to AVOID fouls so he can actually stay on the court in a real game. Letting him play through foul says two things to Frye: 1) we don't care if you commit dumb fouls and 2) we are worried that you haven't shown us anything yet. That puts pressure on him and it doesn't teach him the right way to defend. I think Aguirre is going about this the right way to develop him.

Briggs, you are approaching this like Zeke thought Frye was the win now guy and Bynum was the better prospect but would take too long. Maybe he just liked Frye better and is willing to take his time developing him the RIGHT way, rather than putting undo pressure on him because he's had a few subpar games. Though, the Knicks are the only SL team that Dwight Howard hasn't dominated against. and Channing was a part of that.

There's no rush on Frye. People who want a rookie to produce now now now should focus on Big Nate.


[Edited by - crzymdups on 07/10/2005 23:38:15]

Maybe so. I remember that play, I also remember Channing getting position on Dwight repeatedly. Frye definitely outplayed him in the third quarter. If you want to say Howard wasn't trying in that game, but has gone out and scored 24 pts and 21 pts in the same amount of minutes against two other teams - fine.

I still think Aguirre will do a good job with Frye. One thing I think the team should do is slow the game down a little to get some quality looks for Frye. It's hard to stop Nate, and it's hard to stop everyone else from jacking shots and not passing to the highest paid guy on the team.

CHANNING GETS SOME PINE TIME

By MARC BERMAN

July 11, 2005 -- LAS VEGAS — Mark Aguirre, the Knicks' summer-league coach, has treated 6-11 Channing Frye as if he were an undrafted rookie free agent. The problem is, Frye has looked the part of an undrafted rookie free agent.
"He's soft," said one agent leaving UNLV's Cox Pavilion late Saturday night.

Frye has shown promise offensively, but has struggled alarmingly on defense, getting in foul trouble in two of the Knicks' three games. Aguirre held the Knicks' prized first-round pick to just 14 minutes Saturday when he got in early foul trouble, even though in summer league you can't foul out.

"It's not fair to all of the guys that come in and put blood and sweat on the floor," Aguirre said, explaining Frye's limited minutes. "There's some guys on this team that have sweated hard and their careers are dependent on it. If I can get them a look, I'm going to get them a look."

It's odd thinking considering this summer league is designed to develop draft picks like the Knicks' three first-rounders. Frye, taken at No. 8, has been the least impressive of the trio, with speedy point guard Nate Robinson and active power forward David Lee excelling.

"In the NBA game, what you've got to understand is every guy is not going to make that shot," Aguirre said. "Channing goes after every shot. He's got to realize, a lot of those shots you've just got to contest. He's trying to block everybody who comes down in there."

Said Frye: "I have a lot of expectations I want to fulfill and I think sometimes I kind of psych myself out. If I got down on myself now, I think that would be really immature."



Including Minnesota summer league, Frye has seven games to improve. The Knicks face the Nets tonight.

"After he leaves here, we'll be hooked at the hip and you'll see," Aguirre said. "Once I get him over an extended period of time, you'll see."

*

Knicks president Isiah Thomas left here on Friday and will not return, as he meets with prospective free agents. Thomas hopes to sign a center or big power forward, but he has expanded his search to 3-4 types such as Donyell Marshall.

Thomas' list still includes center Kwame Brown, but he's a big longshot since the Wizards have better sign-and-trade offers. Others on the list are: power forward Stromile Swift, center Jerome James, center Steven Hunter and power forward Antoine Walker. The Knicks could get James, Hunter or Walker for all or part of the $5M mid-level exception.

everything in that article was good to hear EXCEPT for the cookie monster and toine. beware of false prophets...toine is the anti-christ!!!!

[Edited by - djsunyc on 07/11/2005 01:58:30]

Oh I didn't realize that I can't say ****y....so I'll just say confident.

It's not that he's soft per say, it's that he has trouble establishing position against bigger guys. Soft has to do with your mentality, not your how much muscle you have. I think once Frye adds another 10 pounds of muscle, and works on that lower body strength, along /w/ working with Aguirre, you'll see some marked improvement. Just don't expect it to come overnight. Part of the biggest problem is that Frye simply isn't ready to come in and contribute right away. I'd say Lee is ready even before he is.

And THAT, my friends, is why you go after a LEGIT big this summer, not some secondary potential in Stro, Kwame, or James...

I won't be too discouraged if he starts off slowly--- lot so of rookie big men have an adjustment period. Camby stunk in the first half of his rookie season. Bosh looked overmatched... as did countless other rookies. That said, I think 15ppg/7rpg are attainable stats after the all-star break.

For the season, I suppose 11ppg/5rpg wouldn't be a disappointment, that is... unless Bynum is averaging the same numbers. :) (or for that matter, if anyone chosen AFTER Frye looks like a superstar)


[Edited by - technomaster on 07/11/2005 12:04:53]