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SkyWalker
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7/8/2005  12:20 PM
Knicks president Isiah Thomas went nuts over Tuesday's column (and a New York Times report) stating that Isiah was willing to trade Marbury.



The team that gets Stephon Marbury in a trade comes up short in the win column.
"That is so far from the truth," Thomas told reporters, in an angry tone, at a press conference after the Knicks' first summer league game. "And I'm ashamed for you guys that you even have to ask me that, because there is absolutely no truth to it at all."

Marbury has "never been in play," and the Knicks will "never put him in play," according to Isiah.

That's sharply at odds with what several NBA executives have told Insider over the course of the last week.

Thomas also took issue with the use of other, unnamed executives as sources.

"Tell the GM, whoever the GM is, to put his name on it," Thomas said.

Knicks fans likewise were displeased at suggestions that Thomas would be willing to trade Marbury to get Samuel Dalembert in a sign-and-trade. They were even more shocked at the possibility of trading him to Atlanta for Al Harrington, Tony Delk and Jason Collier.

The funny thing is, trading Marbury is a move the Knicks should make. A trade for Dalembert (which I'm told Sixers GM Billy King has zero interest in) would help the Knicks here and now. That trade would add a shot blocker, put Jamal Crawford and Nate Robinson at the point and give the Knicks a good chance at the playoffs.

A potential Hawks trade would be more about the future. By moving Marbury for players like Harrington, Delk and Collier (all in the last year of their contracts), Isiah could be on the verge of the previously unthinkable -- cap room. If Marbury were moved and Thomas could resist the urge to throw a max deal at every free agent that bats his eyes at him, the Knicks would be around $20 million under the cap going into the summer of 2007.

That just happens to be the summer that LeBron James becomes a restricted free agent, with his full free agency to follow a year later. Given what we know about the huge endorsement kickers James would get by playing in a big market like New York, combined with the chaos in Cleveland right now, it isn't a stretch to think that the Knicks would be real players in the LeBron market, provided they can get their house in order.

If Thomas really is going to hold firm on his pledge to "never" put Marbury in play, he's going to have to do something else to ease what's turning out to be a major logjam in the backcourt. The Knicks have Marbury, Jamal Crawford, Quentin Richardson, Allan Houston, Penny Hardaway and Nate Robinson, making a total of $66 million.

Houston will likely be waived using the new "amnesty" rule set up in the new CBA. Hardaway is in the last year of his contract, which makes him a tradable piece. But even with those two players eventually out of the picture, the Knicks logjam is still fairly significant and Crawford will be unhappy if he has to come off the bench
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7/8/2005  12:24 PM
Someone should ask Chad Ford, how many GM jobs has he turned down? I hate a know it all talking from the sideline but is not in the mix. If everything is as easy has he makes it appear, then he should put his resume is the hat and get called. Experience? I am a NBA Beat reporter for ESPN. That qualification right there shuld be enough for a job in the NBA.
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7/8/2005  12:57 PM
This was posted already.
“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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7/8/2005  1:01 PM
So Steph for Dalembert puts the knicks in the playoffs?

No way. What makes him think Nate is a starter in the NBA on a playoff team no less. I really hate Chad Ford. I HATE him, he's an idiot and didn't stand by anything he said in his report. Clown!
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7/8/2005  1:06 PM
damn it, i didnt see that post. My bad
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7/8/2005  2:22 PM
Isiah's probably telling the truth.

I think ANY of us would be 100% shocked if Marbury was traded. I'm no Marbury fan and I think you trade Marbury, if you can improve the team in the process, but... you have to realize that Marbury is probably here for the next 7 years, win lose or draw.
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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7/8/2005  2:24 PM
Chad Ford is an absolute joke and too me he has no credibility as a reporter. I hope he reads this board and sees this post because he's a crock of **** and he'll never have credibility becuase he likes to create news instead of report it.
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
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7/8/2005  2:28 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Chad Ford is an absolute joke and too me he has no credibility as a reporter. I hope he reads this board and sees this post because he's a crock of **** and he'll never have credibility becuase he likes to create news instead of report it.
100% agree... he posts what he thinks should happen, then pawns it off as reality. I can see him approaching some GM or assistant GM he knows and saying
CHAD:do you think MArbury for Dalembert and cap junk is realistic for the Knicks?
RANDOM ASSISTANT GM: sure... Knicks need bigs. Why not?
CHAD: "...in speaking with league execs around the league the thought is Marbury will be available for Dalembert or bla bla bla"

This is how this crap gets started. Gotta sell those insider subscriptions.
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7/8/2005  2:32 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Chad Ford is an absolute joke and too me he has no credibility as a reporter. I hope he reads this board and sees this post because he's a crock of **** and he'll never have credibility becuase he likes to create news instead of report it.
100% agree... he posts what he thinks should happen, then pawns it off as reality. I can see him approaching some GM or assistant GM he knows and saying
CHAD:do you think MArbury for Dalembert and cap junk is realistic for the Knicks?
RANDOM ASSISTANT GM: sure... Knicks need bigs. Why not?
CHAD: "...in speaking with league execs around the league the thought is Marbury will be available for Dalembert or bla bla bla"

This is how this crap gets started. Gotta sell those insider subscriptions.

It's so true Fish, it's disgusting, I don't know whose more at fault, ESPN or Chad. I can deal with someone like Marc Stein reporting, even though he disses the knicks as much as Ford. The difference is Stein isn't creating news he just reports what he sees, it's usually never bogus like Fords crap.
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
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