Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Andray Blatche 10 points 5 reb 3 assists 2 blocks 5-11 32 min
Lucas Tischer 6 pts 7 reb in 15 min
Jamal Sampson 5 pts 5 reb 3 blocks in 13 min
Eddie Badsen 13 points 7 rebounds

Dijon Thompson and Francisco Garcia were AWFUL


thats it for the two late games

I don't know why Badsen isn't on our squad when we desperately need defense & toughness!

Lucas Tischer is the brazilian I wanted at pick 54!

that pick belonged to the Suns.

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Andray Blatche 10 points 5 reb 3 assists 2 blocks 5-11 32 min
Lucas Tischer 6 pts 7 reb in 15 min
Jamal Sampson 5 pts 5 reb 3 blocks in 13 min
Eddie Badsen 13 points 7 rebounds

Dijon Thompson and Francisco Garcia were AWFUL


thats it for the two late games

I don't know why Badsen isn't on our squad when we desperately need defense & toughness!

Lucas Tischer is the brazilian I wanted at pick 54!

that pick belonged to the Suns.

I wanted Lucas before the draft. He's a physical beast!

My draft was:
8-Bynum(Green once he was there for us)
30-Blatche or Taft
54-Tischer

like I was harping on, why draft a low ceiling role player at 8 when you can get a big man as good if not better later in the draft? it happens every year!

here's a picture of Tischer he's massive http://draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=105


[Edited by - gunsnewing on 07/07/2005 14:00:50]

Posted by gunsnewing:

reason we passed on Blatche is the same reason we passed on Bynum. This is New York we have to make the safe pick and draft a guy who will be part of multiple 30win teams and put up Kurt Thomas like "solid" numbers on terrible teams. Kurt was always a role player and put up role player numbers behind Camby

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by gunsnewing:

reason we passed on Blatche is the same reason we passed on Bynum. This is New York we have to make the safe pick and draft a guy who will be part of multiple 30win teams and put up Kurt Thomas like "solid" numbers on terrible teams. Kurt was always a role player and put up role player numbers behind Camby

wasn't Artest the "safe" pick and Weis the gamble? Would you like to have it both ways? I'm content to have a GM who drafts guys that fit his vision and style of play instead of a GM who bows to external pressure and drafts the flavor of the week.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by gunsnewing:

reason we passed on Blatche is the same reason we passed on Bynum. This is New York we have to make the safe pick and draft a guy who will be part of multiple 30win teams and put up Kurt Thomas like "solid" numbers on terrible teams. Kurt was always a role player and put up role player numbers behind Camby

wasn't Artest the "safe" pick and Weis the gamble? Would you like to have it both ways? I'm content to have a GM who drafts guys that fit his vision and style of play instead of a GM who bows to external pressure and drafts the flavor of the week.

That's a good example

Posted by crzymdups:

what has Bynum shown professionally? what has Green shown? Your argument has tremendous flaws.

If anything, Green was said to have shown up in interviews and acted extremely immature and many questioned not just his basketball IQ, but his total IQ. Bynum was a fat boy who didn't show any sort of work ethic in high school until there was money on the table. Do those sound like guys who "showed things professionally"? Blatche had the same questions about his motivations. He may be playing hard in summer league - but that's probably because if he doesn't he won't get a contract and he has no college eligibility left. Summer league in Washington is possibility his last chance to get an American paycheck to hoop.

Meanwhile, you've got Frye, Nate and Lee who "showed things professionally" for three to four years at top college programs in some of the toughest conferences in the country. They're winners, they play defense, they're athletically gifted, they fit needs on our team.

Don't tell me you would've picked Artest over Weis. Artest has a lot more in common with Frye, Nate and Lee than Green and Bynum. Weis was 1999's Petro, who you also loved for his potential.

And please tell me how you are able to determine a player's ceiling? That has everything to do with a players desire, effort, skills and athleticism. Frye, Nate and Lee have those qualities in SPADES. Green, Bynum, Petro are question marks in at least two of the categories, and Green and Petro have no skill set to speak of either. They're big and fast, period.