Hey, the Kings are thinking about trading Mobley to Denver for Nene. If that is the case, can't we put together a much better package than what the Kings are offering? Crawfford and Sweetney for Nene, draft pick and some cash....

Let the record reflect that if we make a trade with denver involving NeNe and Crawford, I was the first to say it. I had been harping on this for a while now. I don't think Isiah is going to trade Crawford though, from what I have heard from Knick insiders he thinks Crawford is going to be a really special player and is the future of the franchise.

Thats why he got Nate Robinson, him and Nate are really close.

nene does fill a need for a big body in the middle- but before you trade crawford and sweetney- ask yourself who is going to give you more production:

Craw, Sweet & Frye

or

Nene & Frye

Nene hasn't exactly put up great numbers- and partly that could be the system there

When I've watched him play, you see a gracefull athleticism- but that has yet to translate into actual numbers-

Posted by franco12:

Nene hasn't exactly put up great numbers- and partly that could be the system there

When I've watched him play, you see a gracefull athleticism- but that has yet to translate into actual numbers-

I honestly think Nene requires more playing time. Last season when Camby was out for a week or so, Nene exploded. Me and guns have been the biggest Nene fans on ultimate. I dont know about guns but any trade that would bring Nene to NY would be welcome in my book.

nene does fill a need for a big body in the middle- but before you trade crawford and sweetney- ask yourself who is going to give you more production:

Craw, Sweet & Frye

or

Nene & Frye

Actually its more like:

Craw and Frye or Nene and Frye.

Sweets is almost a non-factor. Out lineup will look a lot better with Nene and minus Crawford that it would minus Nene + Crawford. I dont know why Denver would take Sweetney though. I actually think there is no change that Denver trades Nene to NYC.

Posted by fishmike:

how about Nene + rights to Hodge + 2007 #1 for Marbury?

Who is the Knicks PG?

Posted by fishmike:

how about Nene + rights to Hodge + 2007 #1 for Marbury?

Great but doesn't work under the CBA

Posted by TheSage:

Posted by fishmike:

how about Nene + rights to Hodge + 2007 #1 for Marbury?

Great but doesn't work under the CBA

yeah, it would have to be expanded to get a 3rd team involved:

maybe marbury + denver #1 to atlanta
smith and harrington to denver
and nene + hodge to ny

Yeah. This is one trade that I was hoping would happen and I have done some trade scenarios in the past that would bring us Nene and their 2 draft picks. Now that the draft is over, I figured that this trade helps both sides.

Crawford for Nene and Lenard. Basically, it is a Nene for Crawford where we cut Lenard right away.

Then I got a little crazy. Well, more like bored since I am reading 8 design documents right now.

How about this HUGE 4 team trade...

New York Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Stephon Marbury
6-2 PG from Georgia Tech
21.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 40.0 minutes
Mike Sweetney
6-8 PF from Georgetown
8.4 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.6 minutes
Incoming
Nene Hilario
6-11 PF from Vasco De Gama (Brazil)
9.6 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 1.5 apg in 23.9 minutes
Voshon Lenard
6-4 SG from Minnesota
9.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 18.0 minutes
Jason Terry
6-2 PG from Arizona
12.4 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 5.4 apg in 30.0 minutes
Rafael Araujo
6-11 C from Brigham Young
3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.3 apg in 12.6 minutes
Loren Woods
7-2 C from Arizona
3.9 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 15.8 minutes
Change in team outlook: +8.8 ppg, +9.9 rpg, and +0.8 apg.


Denver Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Nene Hilario
6-11 PF from Vasco De Gama (Brazil)
9.6 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 1.5 apg in 23.9 minutes
Andre Miller
6-2 PG from Utah
13.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 6.9 apg in 34.8 minutes
Eduardo Najera
6-8 SF from Oklahoma
6.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 22.1 minutes
Voshon Lenard
6-4 SG from Minnesota
9.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 18.0 minutes
Incoming
Stephon Marbury
6-2 PG from Georgia Tech
21.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 40.0 minutes
Mike Sweetney
6-8 PF from Georgetown
8.4 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.6 minutes
Change in team outlook: -9.7 ppg, -8.4 rpg, and -2.7 apg.


Dallas Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Jason Terry
6-2 PG from Arizona
12.4 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 5.4 apg in 30.0 minutes
Devin Harris
6-3 PG from Wisconsin
5.7 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.2 apg in 15.4 minutes
Incoming
Andre Miller
6-2 PG from Utah
13.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 6.9 apg in 34.8 minutes
Eduardo Najera
6-8 SF from Oklahoma
6.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 22.1 minutes
Change in team outlook: +2.4 ppg, +5.2 rpg, and +0.4 apg.


Toronto Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Rafael Araujo
6-11 C from Brigham Young
3.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 0.3 apg in 12.6 minutes
Loren Woods
7-2 C from Arizona
3.9 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 15.8 minutes
Incoming
Devin Harris
6-3 PG from Wisconsin
5.7 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 2.2 apg in 15.4 minutes
Change in team outlook: -1.5 ppg, -6.7 rpg, and +1.5 apg.



Successful Scenario

New York: Why do we do it? We get an overload on Centers! A one year PG in Terry till Nate is ready for backup PG. Obviously, we would need to cut some players or send to NBDL. We can trade JYD and/or Rose for a guard. A JYD for Jason William(Memphis) would be good. Just for insurance.
C-Frye/Araujo/Butler/Woods
PF-Nene/Lee/MoT
SF-Ariza/TT/Rose
SG-Q/Terry/Williams
PG-Crawford/Nate

Denver: Dang! Starbury with Anthony!
Their starting 5
C-Camby, PF-Martin, SF-Anthony, SG-Hodge, PG-Marbury
Bench-Sweetney, Boykins

Dallas: They get a reliable tough PG in Miller and get fan favorite Najera back. They could have used Najera against Amare this year. They lose a promising young PG and Terry "The Scapegoat".

Toronto: They cut their losses in Araujo and parlay it to a young PG. A Starting 5 of C-Bosh,PF-Villanueva,SF-Eric Williams,SG-Rose,PG-Harris is better than what they had last year.


YUP! I like it!

Posted by GoNyGoNyGo:

Why cut Lenard? The guy can shoot!!! He could be a dale ellis specialist type player at the end of the bench? I like Lenard, especially if HOuston is cut. Ny needs to still stretch the D.

He is still injured. Also, he is a Miami "Pat Riley" Heat! Grrr!

Posted by diderotn:

We need a TRUE SG, none of the players we have on our roster are true SG beside the soon to be traded Houston

We have Q. Terry, Williams and Jamal are all combo guards anyways. With the trees I assembled on this trade scenario, we would not have any problems in the rebounding and shot blocking department. Imagine a 1-2-2 zone that Spurs likes to use with Frye and Nene at the back. Have Q and Jamal at wings and Ariza playing the top! Their PG would have a tough time getting around Trevor leaving Q and Jamal to play the passing lanes. 2 shot blockers to erase mistakes.

Don't get it confuse, Q is a SF.....You ask him, he will tell you that he is a SF...

Posted by Silverfuel:

Posted by diderotn:

We need a TRUE SG, none of the players we have on our roster are true SG beside the soon to be traded Houston

WTF? Q is a true sg.