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125 blocked shots Vs 509 from Swift and 254 from Hunter,,,which is better...????
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diderotn
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7/4/2005  11:33 PM
Look, the Knicks need a shotblocker in the front court...In 5 years, Kwame only blocked 125 shots,,,,,at this point, Swift 509 blocks in 5 year and Hunter 254 fit our need much more than Kwame's aweful stats...Let's not forget that Kwame got more minutes than each of those other two....

Hunter played for 2798 minutes
Swift played for 7401 minutes
Gadzurick played for 3803 minutes and blocked 263 shots and grabbed about 1217 rebounds....that is more than what Kurt did..

and our beloved Kwame 5737

That is a huge disparity...Hunter's number look a lot better in my opinion and they are all about the same age,,,,how can we say that Kwame is more talented and can turn out to be a star in this league??? It looks to me that Hunter has improved his numbers every year, especially when he gets minutes...


[Edited by - diderotn on 07/06/2005 08:51:00]

[Edited by - diderotn on 07/06/2005 08:57:13]
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7/4/2005  11:37 PM
Posted by diderotn:

Look, the Knicks need a shotblocker in the front court...In 5 years, Kwame only blocked 125 shots,,,,,at this point, Swift 509 blocks in 5 year and Hunter 254 fit our need much more than Kwame's aweful stats...Let's not forget that Kwame got more minutes than each of those other two....

Hunter played for 2798 minutes
Swift played for 7401 minutes

and our beloved Kwame 5737

That is a huge disparity...Hunter's number look a lot better in my opinion and they are all about the same age,,,,how can we say that Kwame is more talented and can turn out to be a star in this league??? It looks to me that Hunter has improved his numbers every year, especially when he gets minutes...

Kwame's blocks are better if they came at crucial moments in games rather than garbage time--we need more information, get back to us when you have those numbers. Thanx.
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7/4/2005  11:41 PM
comeon dude...don't bust my balls...
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7/5/2005  1:38 AM
Posted by diderotn:

comeon dude...don't bust my balls...
Career blocks don't tell the stroy on these young players.
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7/5/2005  2:24 AM
Posted by diderotn:

Look, the Knicks need a shotblocker in the front court...In 5 years, Kwame only blocked 125 shots,,,,,at this point, Swift 509 blocks in 5 year and Hunter 254 fit our need much more than Kwame's aweful stats...Let's not forget that Kwame got more minutes than each of those other two....

Hunter played for 2798 minutes
Swift played for 7401 minutes

and our beloved Kwame 5737

That is a huge disparity...Hunter's number look a lot better in my opinion and they are all about the same age,,,,how can we say that Kwame is more talented and can turn out to be a star in this league??? It looks to me that Hunter has improved his numbers every year, especially when he gets minutes...

we have Frye for that man! we desperately need a guy in the frontcourt who will be a beast inside. Similar to Jermaine. until then be content with 39win seasons and 1st round exits
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7/5/2005  2:25 AM
Kwame is not a good shotblocker but thats not the reason we'd be getting him in the first place. Gambling on youth, size and upside. We just have to be careful with what we give up in order to make it a reasonable risk to take.
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7/5/2005  7:15 AM
Kwame is actually a good defender, and seems to play harder on that end when challenged.
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7/5/2005  7:27 AM
whether or not kwame can be reclaimed, the fact is Hunter's done a decent job of swatting shots- Phoenix got KT because they want his j & his boards-

Hunter is going to be cheaper than both Swift & Kwame, and while he'll probably never put up numbers like they will or can, its about value and paying little for a situational/role guy that can get some blocks and boards is greater than what Kwame & Swift might or might not do.
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7/5/2005  9:30 AM
Posted by franco12:

whether or not kwame can be reclaimed, the fact is Hunter's done a decent job of swatting shots- Phoenix got KT because they want his j & his boards-

Hunter is going to be cheaper than both Swift & Kwame, and while he'll probably never put up numbers like they will or can, its about value and paying little for a situational/role guy that can get some blocks and boards is greater than what Kwame & Swift might or might not do.

yep...unless we are getting rid of our glut at PF or expiring contracts, we have what we need.
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7/5/2005  9:49 AM
Exactly...Kwame is not a freaking Center, he is simply a PF. If Isiah is willing to trade: Sweetney, JYD and Malik, I would say it is ok to bring in a guy like Kwame, but until then, the idea should be to find a Center. I don't give a rat ass about Kwame's potentials, because he has been in the league for 5 years and has yet to put it together.

Go for Hunter who is a true center and work on moving the other 3 PFs for another backup Center and to solidify other spots in our roster. With TT and Penny soon to be traded, we will have a big hole at the SF position, unless if we are willing to retain JYD for defense and hustle.
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7/5/2005  9:52 AM
Posted by diderotn:

Exactly...Kwame is not a freaking Center, he is simply a PF. If Isiah is willing to trade: Sweetney, JYD and Malik, I would say it is ok to bring in a guy like Kwame, but until then, the idea should be to find a Center. I don't give a rat ass about Kwame's potentials, because he has been in the league for 5 years and has yet to put it together.

Go for Hunter who is a true center and work on moving the other 3 PFs for another backup Center and to solidify other spots in our roster. With TT and Penny soon to be traded, we will have a big hole at the SF position, unless if we are willing to retain JYD for defense and hustle.

yet we drafted Frye who now isn't even our Center he is our PF? Now that people finally realize he's going to get pushed around by good teams with good frontlines

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 07/05/2005 10:00:46]
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7/5/2005  9:58 AM
Isiah drafted Frye because he doesn't believe that Sweetney is the PF of the future. He knows that Frye is not a Center and he will move Sweetney in due time. My only problem with this idea is that if you are going to trade a PF why in the world would you want to replace him by another PF while our need is at the Center position?

I am strongly hoping that Isiah back the hell away from the Kwame infatuation, because Kwame can't provide us what we need. Go for Gazurric, Hunter or James, because that is their natural position. Now if Isiah wants to trade with Washington, the guy that he should go after is Brandon Haywood.
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7/5/2005  11:16 AM
Hunter's a scrub...don't want him.

Swift would be a better choice, but Kwame's got more upside than either one of them, hence the reason the Knicks maybe interested.

[Edited by - TMS on 07/05/2005 11:17:58]
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7/5/2005  12:28 PM
i say we go for gadzuric... this guys a beast of a defender... when the bucks vrs the knicks... that guy hounded the boards and blocked easy layups

the only problem w/ him is that he may be a bit 2 expensive 4 the knicks. And that he turns 28 in Feb.
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7/6/2005  8:43 AM
I don't get it, what not to like about Gadzuric or Hunter's numbers??? KG/TD/SHAQ/J. Oneal/Ben/Sheed are not available, get a couple of serviceable bigs like Gadz and Hunter to play Center and our future will be very bright. A trade for Gadzurick is very doable and give Hunter $3 millions for over 4 years, and we will suddenly have a hell of a nucleus at both PF and Center.


28 is perfect. We don't need a guy like Kwame who is much more immature than the rookies that we just drafted. We need a player who knows his role and one who is willing to do the little things a la JYD to help his team get better. We have enough primadonas on our roster right now to add Kwame. My choices are: Dalembert, Hunter, GAdzuric (played 3803 and blocked 263 shots), Swift, Jerome James. No Kwame please




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7/6/2005  1:03 PM
Gadzurick and Hunter can both be on our roster....

trade either Sweetney or JYD (PREFERABLY SWEETNEY) FOR GADZ
offer Hunter 3 millions for 4 years...
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7/6/2005  1:28 PM
Zeke to the rescue....
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7/7/2005  1:15 PM
Are you all still crazy about Kwame or we can moveon to Gazurick or Hunter now???
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7/8/2005  12:06 PM
Believe it or not, Hunter will be the guy that Isiah gets. He is affordable and young...MOst of all, he provides what Isiah wants: shot blocking and length...
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7/8/2005  11:47 PM
Zeke and I see eye 2 eye, he will bring us both Hunter and James to man the front court.....
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