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Does IT understand the full importance of coaching in the NBA?
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MaulingandAppalling
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7/3/2005  7:26 PM
I'm IT's biggest fan for what he's done with our roster. I even like Mo'. But what I don't get is why we haven't had a real coach since JVG. Does IT have something as an ex-player where he doesn't fully trust or respect coaches? When IT was coaching the Pacers he talked about working on his playbook and so on, but now he seems to be all about the roster. A great roster with a sub-par coach doesn't make the playoffs, period.
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7/3/2005  8:09 PM
But what can be done right now at this exact moment about the coaching situation. Just go ahead and resign Herb? Take a change with Lambeer? If u wanna do something like TODAY than those seem to be our options. Otherwise, we wait on the best coach availble, Larry Brown's, decision to what his future is. Or wait on the second best coach availble, Nate McMillan, to make his decision. Meanwhile, do we twiddle our thumbs? No, we work with the roster. I agree with how it's goiing so far. He seems to be doing both at once. To me, that's all that can be done.
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7/3/2005  8:34 PM
I agree, TheloniusMonk. Its important to have a coach set, but when the one you have isn't the one you want, and the one you want is someplace else and you have to wait to see if he will ever get avaliable, you have to wait. Laimbeer is an option, one that won't be lost if we wait. Herb? He is the interim, he can't go anywhere. Nate? I don't think Isiah is really interested in him and he will probably sign with the Blazers. Anyone else? Not really a lot of options, so there is no need to hurry...
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MaulingandAppalling
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7/3/2005  8:46 PM
My answer: offer Nate the max now.
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7/3/2005  9:15 PM
Posted by MaulingandAppalling:

My answer: offer Nate the max now.

There are so many things we just don't know. They have spoken already by phone...this is known. Who's to say that Nate wasn't told by the Knicks that money is no object but he made it clear that he intends to stay out west even if he doesn't stay in Seattle? Portland is willing to spend just as much money as the Knicks. Just because a person wasn't offered a 'formal' and 'public' agreement doesn't mean that money wasn't roughly discussed when they spoke. I'm pretty sure it was discussed. This is how each person knows what they are and aren't getting into.

If you notice, whenever official offers are made to coaches that means that both sides are very interested and it's only a matter of time b4 papers are signed. When was the last time an organization publically offered a coach a max contract and then the coach publically says no thanx...not interested? That doesn't happen. You, as GM have your hand on the pulse of the situation and know where you stand with the candidate. I'm sure that Isiah's hand is on the pulse and probably already knows that Larry wants to return to Detroit and that Nate wants to coach in Seattle and if not Seattle then Portland. But you cannot make a move if you're Isiah because you never know if these situations will suddenly fall apart. If they do, then it's time for that candidate to SERIOUSLY consider other options besides the ones that they already wish for. And when they do consider other options who's to say they will even consider new york? Many other teams are willing to go all out to get them as well.

During their phone convo if Nate said to Isiah 'thanx but no thanx' what would be the sense in saying 'here's your contract offer'? The candidate must already be very very serious about being interested in you. If not you're just making a fool of yourself by offering an official deal. The only thing that makes a deal 'officially offered' anyway is it being on paper and forwarded to their agents and lawyers. Everything else is talk.

That said, we're doing all we can do at the moment in my estimation.
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7/3/2005  9:22 PM
Isn't that the reason Brown is his first choice?
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7/3/2005  9:28 PM
But this is a problem that has a longer history than the past few weeks. When IT got here, he fired Cheney, thank God, but then brough in Lenny when Mike F was available. Then, when George Karl was available, IT made Herb the coach. That's why I'm getting nervous now. I can't stand another season of seeing Herb squinting into the middle distance while we get stomped night after night.
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7/3/2005  10:37 PM
Isiah is doing the right thing: waiting on Larry Brown. Nate McMillan will NEVER leave the West Coast. Neither will Phil Jax at this point. The Knicks coaching job is Brown's dream job. Isiah is being very smart about this.

I can't imagine George Karl doing well in New York. He's a prickly, arrogant personality with no media savy at all.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 07/03/2005 22:37:51]
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7/3/2005  11:37 PM
it's not like he's sitting on his hands somewhere. he spoke to nate. as for what was said, we don't know, but he did. he's also speaking to laimbeer, AND he's waiting for larry. from what i see he's being active, but he's not gonna settle. i'm sure he has his list in a certain order.
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7/3/2005  11:59 PM
Apparantly he does understand it, seeing as how he has fired a few coaches during his tenure as GM but don't jus take my word for it

call him and ask him
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Does IT understand the full importance of coaching in the NBA?

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