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Bonn1997
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6/30/2005  9:24 PM
For the veteran's minimum, it makes a lot of sense.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/36434/20050630/houston_return_to_detroit_appears_to_be_in_the_cards/

Detroit Nes - The Pistons have a need for another perimeter scorer off the bench and the plan is to fill that need through free agency.

It is likely that several veteran swingmen will become available this summer, as teams exercise a one-time only option to waive a big-salaried veteran from their tax rolls.

Michael Finley, Allan Houston and Jalen Rose are all expected to be released. Finley and Rose will likely be seeking the mid-level exception. Houston, who is older and in questionable health, will be available for the veteran's minimum.

Houston has told friends, by the way, that Detroit is at the top of his list. He played for the Pistons for three seasons starting in 1993-94. His wife is from Farmington Hills, and he is still close with Dumars and Hunter.
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6/30/2005  9:29 PM
Like with McDyess, expectations will by low, and he won't be asked to do much.
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6/30/2005  9:35 PM
Isiah has been talking like if he is reconsidering things about Houston. Im not sure if he is really convinced that waving him is the right choice. Maybe he will give him another chance, but obviously from the bench, since he brought Q and we already have Craw. Who knows what happens...
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6/30/2005  9:47 PM
Allan's got what, 2 years left?

Waive Penny & split the difference & see if he can make it- otherwise, final year he can be a medical exemption.

Its almost worth not having Allan go help Detroit win a title and pay the tax and have him at the end of the bench.
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6/30/2005  11:44 PM
Posted by franco12:

Allan's got what, 2 years left?

Waive Penny & split the difference & see if he can make it- otherwise, final year he can be a medical exemption.

Its almost worth not having Allan go help Detroit win a title and pay the tax and have him at the end of the bench.

To save $40 million? It might be worth it to Dolan. Hell, we took ON money to send Nazr to San Antonio and help them win a title!
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7/1/2005  12:19 AM
good luck to him. I hope he gets into that Piston uniform as soon as possible. It seems like the best thing that can happen to him.
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7/1/2005  1:48 AM
Posted by franco12:

Allan's got what, 2 years left?

Waive Penny & split the difference & see if he can make it- otherwise, final year he can be a medical exemption.

Its almost worth not having Allan go help Detroit win a title and pay the tax and have him at the end of the bench.

why? do you see us actually having a chance to win the title in a yr or two? i dont.. who cares if detroit he helps detroit next yr.
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7/1/2005  7:47 AM
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by franco12:

Allan's got what, 2 years left?

Waive Penny & split the difference & see if he can make it- otherwise, final year he can be a medical exemption.

Its almost worth not having Allan go help Detroit win a title and pay the tax and have him at the end of the bench.

why? do you see us actually having a chance to win the title in a yr or two? i dont.. who cares if detroit he helps detroit next yr.

No- but if allan is able to contribute in whatever role- we do need an outside shooter.

Waive Penny- you save his tax money & you still have TT- I doubt that either TT or Penny will necessarily get traded to another team needed cap space given the new CBA- but who knows

Then, year two, if Allan didn't do anything & it becomes obvious even to him that he can't do it, you've got a chance at a medical exemption.
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7/1/2005  9:20 AM
"Officials" are privately insinuating that there may not be a luxury tax this coming season, so the only good waiving Houston will do is provide an extra roster spot... which is fine if he's done.

If he's not, and is able to stay healthy (a big IF) his outside shooting will be important. We had our best stretch of the year after he was activated, in spite of him being gimpy.
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Bonn1997
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7/1/2005  9:44 AM
Posted by technomaster:

"Officials" are privately insinuating that there may not be a luxury tax this coming season, so the only good waiving Houston will do is provide an extra roster spot... which is fine if he's done.

If he's not, and is able to stay healthy (a big IF) his outside shooting will be important. We had our best stretch of the year after he was activated, in spite of him being gimpy.
Really? I thought the luxury tax was determined by the CBA but I don't really know how the luxury tax works.
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7/1/2005  10:23 AM
I think the tax kicks in if total player salaries exceed a certain percentage of total basketball revenue. Under the old CBA, it was around 60%. Basically, it's an incentive for owners to keep salaries reasonable. Not sure about the new CBA maybe they raised the threshold?
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7/1/2005  10:30 AM
Management will obviously check and see if Houston is in any condition to continue. If he isnt, he will be waived or forced to retire.

If the Knicks management waives him, some other team signs him and he plays for 70 out of the 82 games, that would mean the Knicks just didnt want him here.
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7/1/2005  11:51 AM
It's a good thing that Dolan saves his 40 mm, but what if he plays decently for even 60 games of the season. The Knicks could definitely use his shooting, especially in closing minutes, and his leadership for the youngin's could be great. I think Q and Crawford (Yes, still Crawford) could learn a lot from Allan. Maybe he'd play the role of Reggie (In his last couple of years for the Pacers, just less relied on). But this is all if he's healthy. If he's not, then the Knicks HAVE to move on.
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7/1/2005  4:36 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

Management will obviously check and see if Houston is in any condition to continue. If he isnt, he will be waived or forced to retire.

If the Knicks management waives him, some other team signs him and he plays for 70 out of the 82 games, that would mean the Knicks just didnt want him here.

i still believe that there is a bigger picture. it is based on their entire contract, rather than just this season, this is a one-time thing. I still think its a money issue. Waiving Houston allows Zeke to trade Thomas+Penny for longer contracts, otherwise, Dolan may be a little strapped financially with the luxuray tax. I know waiving Penny or Houston will have a similar affect on how much we pay yhe luxury tax this year, but looking ahead to next season we can get out of paying a large tax, while getting value for the expiring deals in the process. If Allans deal was an expiring one, i doubt he would be waived. You dont waive things of value.
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7/1/2005  4:42 PM
Posted by jaydh:
Posted by Silverfuel:

Management will obviously check and see if Houston is in any condition to continue. If he isnt, he will be waived or forced to retire.

If the Knicks management waives him, some other team signs him and he plays for 70 out of the 82 games, that would mean the Knicks just didnt want him here.

i still believe that there is a bigger picture. it is based on their entire contract, rather than just this season, this is a one-time thing. I still think its a money issue. Waiving Houston allows Zeke to trade Thomas+Penny for longer contracts, otherwise, Dolan may be a little strapped financially with the luxuray tax.
I agree; I think they're more likely to do a Marbury type of deal if they have the extra available money by waiving Houston, although they probably will either way.
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