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fishmike
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6/29/2005  8:56 AM
We may not have come away with franchise talent in this draft, but we got a lot of good players.
Crawford, Nate and Q can score and Lee, Frye, Ariza and JYD all bring high energy and can finish around the basket. There's also a lot of youth there, and what this group needs above all else is a motor. Can Marbury be that motor? I think he can create the easy shots for guys but this is the time we need him to step up and be a leader. Frye will be a great pick and pop or pick and roll player so I'm not worried about losing KT there.
This group will really need a guy that can take some pressure off them. This looks like a good young squad to put around a dynamic playmaker. I really hope Marbury is up to the task, because individually none of these guys impresses me, but as a group you can really see a long, athletic and scrappy squad with some good size and versatility.

The only odd ball in terms of style of play really is Sweet, but if we can focus on keeping him away from the perimeter and under the basket where he thrives I think we can fit him in nicely.

Balls in your court Steph... hope you step up kid
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6/29/2005  8:58 AM
i'd say the ball's also really in Isiah's court to find a coach that's gonna help that to happen and put on the right kind of pressure to make sure that happens too.
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6/29/2005  9:35 AM
I agree with both of you guys. We can really become a good defensive, scrappy squad.
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6/29/2005  9:40 AM
NO question, Steph will now be able to truly lead, because of the absence of guys like Kurt who was a pure jack ass. Look, as a leader, it not good to have your authority undermine by a co leader. Kurt did a really bad job in that department...
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6/29/2005  9:41 AM
Isiah has to complete reworking the roster by 1. Make a trade to lessen the logjam at the PF 2.) Bring in a veteran center (Kwame, Curry, Huntert or James) and 3.) Make the best deals possible to get rid of TT and Penny.
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6/29/2005  9:52 AM
Marbs definately has pressure now. He is so used to being the best player onthe court. He still is but he has good legs around him now. Marbs is gonna have to dip his scoring down to 18pts per and look to be a playmaker.

David Lee runs the floor beautifully and he has great hands. He is definately a dump it off finisher that will make good on Marbs passes down low.

I could see Frye making that block shot and Ariza and Lee taking off down the court. Awesome.

Is Marbs ready for that? Can Marbs throw the lead pass? Can he throw the alley oop?

Bottom line also will Marbs know when to take the ball into his own hands at the right times? That ultimately will be the X factor in winning alot of games this year. Marbs has to get guys involved and then take over at the right times during games.

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6/29/2005  9:52 AM
I think its funny that kwame brown keeps coming up on this board - what has he done in the league to make him worthy of fixing the large hold in our frontcourt? I mean besides being one of the larger #1 draft pick busts in history and getting thrown off his team during the playoffs...

Why should we want him...and why should we give up anything for him?
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6/29/2005  9:57 AM
We don't need Kwame, please, stay the hell away from this bumb.....With Marburry as the main man, we need a player with good hands to catch the illadvise passes....Kwame's hands are so small, he would not do good...Jerome James is who we need.

Posted by OasisBU:

I think its funny that kwame brown keeps coming up on this board - what has he done in the league to make him worthy of fixing the large hold in our frontcourt? I mean besides being one of the larger #1 draft pick busts in history and getting thrown off his team during the playoffs...

Why should we want him...and why should we give up anything for him?
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6/29/2005  9:57 AM
Posted by Marv:

i'd say the ball's also really in Isiah's court to find a coach that's gonna help that to happen and put on the right kind of pressure to make sure that happens too.

I'd argue that the pressure is on Isiah to get a coach in here to get all this players to maximize their respective talents.

There's got to be a philosophy and game plan in place when the players go on the court- that's coming from the coach.

Look at Phoenix- sure, they have Nash, but its D'Antoni that has that system in place that enables Nash to do the things he's good at doing.

I wonder if Marbury is all street ball and no team ball.
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6/29/2005  9:57 AM
Posted by OasisBU:

I think its funny that kwame brown keeps coming up on this board - what has he done in the league to make him worthy of fixing the large hold in our frontcourt? I mean besides being one of the larger #1 draft pick busts in history and getting thrown off his team during the playoffs...

Why should we want him...and why should we give up anything for him?

Who needs him? Knicks have plenty of big men on the books especially after the draft.
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6/29/2005  10:45 AM
My only problem with Isiah is his ability to pick coaches...I am hoping that he will see the light about herb...He needs to get rid of him.


The next news conference will be to announce a new coach....Larry will go back to Detroit, and Zeke will have no choice but to go with Laimbeer...
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6/29/2005  10:50 AM
Posted by franco12:

I'd argue that the pressure is on Isiah to get a coach in here to get all this players to maximize their respective talents.

There's got to be a philosophy and game plan in place when the players go on the court- that's coming from the coach.

Look at Phoenix- sure, they have Nash, but its D'Antoni that has that system in place that enables Nash to do the things he's good at doing.

I wonder if Marbury is all street ball and no team ball.
Good post franco. Also, I agree with OasisBU and dido that we should stay away from Kwame.
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6/29/2005  11:32 AM
Good points here.

First, it is clear that this is Marbury's team, and he should be ready to play team ball with these guys because they are ready to play now and they are also tough. We have really added many pieces to the puzzle, not just picked because of position. In the end we will be able to play different basketball styles, but uptempo will be the rule. Marbury can play that, although he has been a halfcourt guy. Marbury has to step up because he is clearly our franchise player. He should take the best out of all these guys. Thats his job.

But as Marv pointed out, we need the right coach to teach and prepare these guys. We can't go next season with a coach that doesn't really have a plan, a style of play established on the players. Many here love Herb Williams, but last season he did nothing to establish himself. It wouldn't be bad to have him as an assistant, but not as the coach. We need a tough coach that makes the team work, not a players friendly coach. They have to work their butts out there. And the guy has to keep in touch with Isiah because this is Isiah's vision. He must make it move, work. Laimbeer would be that guy right now...
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6/29/2005  11:37 AM
About Kwame, I'd say that if Isiah wants to get him, he must first talk to him and evaluate him. Who really knows the story on Kwame, but the fact is that he is a talented big man and if he can be straighten out, he could be good. He was selected as a highschooler, with the #1 pick, expected to do great things right away. That can either bring the best of you or destroy you. Isiah likes to give guys a chance, and I wouldn't mind if this happened if Isiah really thought Kwame still has a chance. But there will be other possibilities, not only from free agency, but trades...
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6/29/2005  12:00 PM
If we had Jason Kidd, you would see alot of alley-oop highlights with all the high flyers we now have. But I love Marbury, and I think if he can believe in his teammates more, we will be in the playoffs next year.

No reason why Marbs shouldnt average a double double
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6/29/2005  12:09 PM
have any of you seen Marburry when he was with Phoenix??? all of their points need to come through alleyoops and flashy passes...Marburry is more than capable of delivering in that department...The problem is that he couldn't really be himself when he had guys like: TT/Kurt and Nazr as starters...Those three were awful last season...I was hoping that TT would have the high flyer that he once was, but he was no where to be found...That boy was so soft, instead of dunking the ball, he would try to finger roll it....All of that kills a passer's intentions..
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6/29/2005  12:27 PM
Posted by diderotn:

have any of you seen Marburry when he was with Phoenix??? all of their points need to come through alleyoops and flashy passes...Marburry is more than capable of delivering in that department...The problem is that he couldn't really be himself when he had guys like: TT/Kurt and Nazr as starters...Those three were awful last season...I was hoping that TT would have the high flyer that he once was, but he was no where to be found...That boy was so soft, instead of dunking the ball, he would try to finger roll it....All of that kills a passer's intentions..
People forget his time with the Timberwolves. He was throwing KG alleyoops on a regular basis. I remember one of his first games at the Garden. He had a no look alleyoop to KG dunk on Ewing. That's is why Marbury always say he is among the best pg, because he can play either way. He can be the pure assist man, pure scorer when he wants. I know Flip had him as the pure assist guy, but Marbury wanted to do more scoring. In NJ he had to score, Phoenix was joke (btw, I am curious how good Nash will look when he runs down the court and looks to pass the ball to KT who is still down the other end), and in NY his best option to get a score was KT 15 footer.. It is just sad that Houston was never healthy enough to become the second coming of the Joe Dumars. Because that is what I envisioned when Isiah made the Marbury trade.
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6/29/2005  1:07 PM
Let the Knicks' Alleyoop Era begin!!!!!
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