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6/28/2005  10:51 PM
the acquisition of Q might mean Crawford will be traded...maybe we get a guy like Al Harrington for Jamal in a trade w/ATL now that they have Marvin Williams in the fold?

thoughts?

hopefully IT can unload TT in the offseason & we end up w/this to better balance our current roster after tonight's draft choices:

C - Frye / Butler
PF - Sweetney / Malik / Lee
SF - Harrington / Ariza / JYD
SG - Q / MLE free agent
PG - Marbury / Nate
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6/28/2005  10:57 PM
At this point, I can't say Isiah has a plan at all. I think he's just picking anyone who considers an athlete and that's where the thought process begins and ends.

We're going to have the most athletic team that can't win more than 35 games.
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6/28/2005  11:02 PM
if IT made those moves i described & then signed a defensive minded backup SG w/the MLE, i'd give him a B for this offseason...right now, he stands at a C- in my eyes...nothing wowed me & he let the best talent in the draft pass by in Green in my view.
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6/28/2005  11:06 PM
Posted by Solace:

At this point, I can't say Isiah has a plan at all. I think he's just picking anyone who considers an athlete and that's where the thought process begins and ends.

We're going to have the most athletic team that can't win more than 35 games.
Don't tell me you don't think the lineup now is a nice improvement from the one Isiah inherited

Ward and Eisley to Marbury and Nate Robinson
Shandon Anderson to Jamal Crawford and Q-Rich
Keith Van Horn to Q-Rich and Ariza
Kurt Thomas to Michael Sweetney, JYD, David Lee
Mutombo to Fry

I'd easily take the latter players over the former ones at ALL five positions.
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6/28/2005  11:07 PM
I would like to see Crawford traded for Harrington, who would immediately become the best forward we have.

But why would Atlanta trade a good young athletic big man for Crawford? Is their GM a Knicks fan?

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6/28/2005  11:10 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Solace:

At this point, I can't say Isiah has a plan at all. I think he's just picking anyone who considers an athlete and that's where the thought process begins and ends.

We're going to have the most athletic team that can't win more than 35 games.
Don't tell me you don't think the lineup now is a nice improvement from the one Isiah inherited

Ward and Eisley to Marbury and Nate Robinson
Shandon Anderson to Jamal Crawford and Q-Rich
Keith Van Horn to Q-Rich and Ariza
Kurt Thomas to Michael Sweetney, JYD, David Lee
Mutombo to Fry

I'd easily take the latter players over the former ones at ALL five positions.

Zzzzz... You can't sugarcoat this one. Sorry.
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6/28/2005  11:11 PM
It was an upgrade, but he could have gotton better players! Nate would have probably been available at 30. We missed out on guys like Wayne Simien, Andre Blatche and Ronny Turiaf with that 21st pick, and Nate would have fallen. And I CAN'T believe what happened with the 8th pick. Danny Granger, Gerald Green all available and we piss them away and take the safe pick, even though all of those guys could have done better than Channing in the first year.
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6/28/2005  11:12 PM
Posted by oohah:

I would like to see Crawford traded for Harrington, who would immediately become the best forward we have.

But why would Atlanta trade a good young athletic big man for Crawford? Is their GM a Knicks fan?

oohah
Al Harrington has one year left on his contract, plays Marvin Williams position and has already gave the indications that he will not be resigning with the Hawks. Many thought that Harrington would be traded tonight after the Hawks selected Williams.
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6/28/2005  11:12 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

It was an upgrade, but he could have gotton better players! Nate would have probably been available at 30. We missed out on guys like Wayne Simien, Andre Blatche and Ronny Turiaf with that 21st pick, and Nate would have fallen. And I CAN'T believe what happened with the 8th pick. Danny Granger, Gerald Green all available and we piss them away and take the safe pick, even though all of those guys could have done better than Channing in the first year.
As you save that 14 picks go by an no Blatche.
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6/28/2005  11:15 PM
thanks for explaining that for me...you took the words right out of my mouth.

another point to consider is that IT has a working relationship w/ATL's GM already (the Nazr trade a year ago)...he's already made his second trade w/Phoenix, it stands to reason he could pursue another one w/ATL as well, especially since they have a player i'm sure Isiah would love to bring into the fold in NY, & they could use a PG/SG like Crawford while clearing the glut of F's they have on that team now...it's a deal that helps both teams.
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6/28/2005  11:17 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Solace:

At this point, I can't say Isiah has a plan at all. I think he's just picking anyone who considers an athlete and that's where the thought process begins and ends.

We're going to have the most athletic team that can't win more than 35 games.
Don't tell me you don't think the lineup now is a nice improvement from the one Isiah inherited

Ward and Eisley to Marbury and Nate Robinson
Shandon Anderson to Jamal Crawford and Q-Rich
Keith Van Horn to Q-Rich and Ariza
Kurt Thomas to Michael Sweetney, JYD, David Lee
Mutombo to Fry

I'd easily take the latter players over the former ones at ALL five positions.

Zzzzz... You can't sugarcoat this one. Sorry.

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6/28/2005  11:30 PM
Posted by oohah:

I would like to see Crawford traded for Harrington, who would immediately become the best forward we have.

But why would Atlanta trade a good young athletic big man for Crawford? Is their GM a Knicks fan?

oohah
Um...maybe because they have 3 6'9 players that all play similar positions. I doubt there moving Josh Smith, who plays Power foward but mostly Small forward. And marvin Williams is there future. That makes Harrington the odd man out in this situation.
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6/28/2005  11:31 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Solace:

At this point, I can't say Isiah has a plan at all. I think he's just picking anyone who considers an athlete and that's where the thought process begins and ends.

We're going to have the most athletic team that can't win more than 35 games.
Don't tell me you don't think the lineup now is a nice improvement from the one Isiah inherited

Ward and Eisley to Marbury and Nate Robinson
Shandon Anderson to Jamal Crawford and Q-Rich
Keith Van Horn to Q-Rich and Ariza
Kurt Thomas to Michael Sweetney, JYD, David Lee
Mutombo to Fry

I'd easily take the latter players over the former ones at ALL five positions.

Zzzzz... You can't sugarcoat this one. Sorry.

ZZZZ. You can't hatorade this night. Sorry.

Whose being a hater? We skip better taller players for smaller tweeners. You're happy because you're Isiah's puppet. If Isiah drafted Simien with the #8, you would've told us that that was a great pick because Isiah made it. That's why most people on the board know better than to listen to you.

Now, bug off. :)
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6/28/2005  11:33 PM
let's stay on topic here guys...i think Harrington to NY can happen.
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6/28/2005  11:46 PM
It seems as if IT will not stop at anything to get people( weather coahes or players) who are from NY. Next on his list will be wally for tim thomas. I'm not sure if al is even in the back of his mind, let alone the front.

and if he trades JC that would be another move that made little to no sense, along with Nazy, taylor, and KVH.
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6/28/2005  11:55 PM
how does a trade of JC for Harrington not make sense when we just traded KT & Isiah clearly wants an upgrade at the SF position, wasn't able to draft one & got a backup PG & starting SG via trade tonight?

btw, Harrington's from the NY area too...i think he grew up in jersey.
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6/29/2005  12:00 AM
I hate Al Harrington. Low basketball IQ, low desire. He's basically tim Thomas without the jumper. Gimme Crawford any day of the week over Al.
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6/29/2005  12:04 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

I hate Al Harrington. Low basketball IQ, low desire. He's basically tim Thomas without the jumper. Gimme Crawford any day of the week over Al.

low basketball IQ describes Jamal too...Harrington gives you more of what you need on this team...rebounding at the SF position & someone who can actually guard someone in the post...TT needs to go.
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6/29/2005  12:36 AM
Al Harrington has one year left on his contract, plays Marvin Williams position and has already gave the indications that he will not be resigning with the Hawks. Many thought that Harrington would be traded tonight after the Hawks selected Williams.

Many who? I guess they were wrong. By the way, Al harrington doesn't play Marvin Williams' position. Marvin Williams will try to play the postition that Harrington has played sccessfully for 7 years now, 4 the last 4 at a high level. He was also arguably the best player on the team when Antoine Walker was there and he definitely was the best after AW was traded.

The contract and not resigning situation may cause him to be traded, but for Jamal crawford? Straight up? If that is in the offing IT better pull the trigger before they sober up because Harrington has a lot of salary dump value.
Um...maybe because they have 3 6'9 players that all play similar positions. I doubt there moving Josh Smith, who plays Power foward but mostly Small forward. And marvin Williams is there future. That makes Harrington the odd man out in this situation.

Um... no they don't unless you are including Kevin Willis and Obinna Ekezie. Josh Childress' Afro may be 6'9" but he ain't. He also played lots of guard for the Hawks last year. Josh smith is a small forward/ shooting guard. Neither of those guy play in the post and bang under the basket like Harrington.

Marvin Williams looks like a star, but I think he may be a small forward in the NBA too.

Harrington may get traded, but not for JC straight up. Sorry.

how does a trade of JC for Harrington not make sense when we just traded KT & Isiah clearly wants an upgrade at the SF position, wasn't able to draft one & got a backup PG & starting SG via trade tonight?
btw, Harrington's from the NY area too...i think he grew up in jersey.

Jersey? That's okay I guess. Anyway, it makes sense for us, but you have to realize that Al harrington simply has much more value that Jamal crawford.

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6/29/2005  12:43 AM
Posted by oohah:
Al Harrington has one year left on his contract, plays Marvin Williams position and has already gave the indications that he will not be resigning with the Hawks. Many thought that Harrington would be traded tonight after the Hawks selected Williams.

Many who? I guess they were wrong. By the way, Al harrington doesn't play Marvin Williams' position. Marvin Williams will try to play the postition that Harrington has played sccessfully for 7 years now, 4 the last 4 at a high level. He was also arguably the best player on the team when Antoine Walker was there and he definitely was the best after AW was traded.

The contract and not resigning situation may cause him to be traded, but for Jamal crawford? Straight up? If that is in the offing IT better pull the trigger before they sober up because Harrington has a lot of salary dump value.
Um...maybe because they have 3 6'9 players that all play similar positions. I doubt there moving Josh Smith, who plays Power foward but mostly Small forward. And marvin Williams is there future. That makes Harrington the odd man out in this situation.

Um... no they don't unless you are including Kevin Willis and Obinna Ekezie. Josh Childress' Afro may be 6'9" but he ain't. He also played lots of guard for the Hawks last year. Josh smith is a small forward/ shooting guard. Neither of those guy play in the post and bang under the basket like Harrington.

Marvin Williams looks like a star, but I think he may be a small forward in the NBA too.

Harrington may get traded, but not for JC straight up. Sorry.

how does a trade of JC for Harrington not make sense when we just traded KT & Isiah clearly wants an upgrade at the SF position, wasn't able to draft one & got a backup PG & starting SG via trade tonight?
btw, Harrington's from the NY area too...i think he grew up in jersey.

Jersey? That's okay I guess. Anyway, it makes sense for us, but you have to realize that Al harrington simply has much more value that Jamal crawford.

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