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MS
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6/28/2005  10:33 PM
I have just lost all faith in Isiah he could have used this draft to rebuild for the future, hate the picks, I could have lived with one, put when you have the chance to add the combination of

Green, Jack, Taft

Granger, Jack, Petro

or

Brynum, Jack, Blacte

Please someone explain the rational behind taking a 6'9 foward when you have two guys that play big.....
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6/28/2005  10:36 PM
ugh!

Frye- ok.

But roll the dice at 21 at least...
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6/28/2005  10:43 PM
He did roll the dice, on the shortest player in the draft.

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6/28/2005  10:46 PM
TONIGHT WAS AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER, I AM UTTERLY DISGUSTED

WHAT A TERRIBLE JOB ALL AROUND
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6/28/2005  10:46 PM
Posted by franco12:

ugh!

Frye- ok.

But roll the dice at 21 at least...
at 30 yes. But he never chose the 21st pick. phoenix did
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6/28/2005  10:48 PM
Posted by MS:

I have just lost all faith in Isiah he could have used this draft to rebuild for the future, hate the picks, I could have lived with one, put when you have the chance to add the combination of

Green, Jack, Taft

Granger, Jack, Petro

or

Brynum, Jack, Blacte

Please someone explain the rational behind taking a 6'9 foward when you have two guys that play big.....
Taft is rated as one of the last pfs in this draft by all these analysis. So I don't know about taking Taft. I am intrigued about Lee but the analysis seem to like the pick because it makes the Knicks more athlethic. Lets face it 27 other teams said no thanks to Taft. Strange.
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6/28/2005  10:48 PM
I didn't want to go safe with that 8th pick, but I understood that Isiah wanted Frye so I wasn't too pissed off though I was a little angry because Green and Bynum were there.

Then Isiah drafted Nate. I wanted a player with more height at that pick but I liked the pick because I think Nate will help us.

At pick 30, Isiah needed to swing for a home run. Instead, he took David Lee. I just don't see how you can justify taking another role player (which Lee is in my mind at his best). I really hope I'm wrong but I don't see Lee becoming a very good player in this league. Blatche made much more sense here and he should've been picked.

So far, I don't like the OVERALL job Isiah has done with this draft. Had Isiah taken someone like Blatche at 30, I would be thinking much different.
"This is a very cautious situation that we're in. You have to be conservative in terms of using your assets and using them wisely. We're building for the future." - Zeke (I guess not protecting a first round pick is being conservative)
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6/28/2005  10:49 PM
funny thing is the Knicks actually improved at every position tonight: backup PG (Nate), SG/SF Q, PF Lee, C Frye. I still wanted Bynum over Frye, but a night where we add Q-Rich, Frye, Lee, and Nate Robinson and only gave up Kurt is a good night for the franchise IMO

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 06/28/2005 22:50:47]
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6/28/2005  10:51 PM
Posted by s3231:

I didn't want to go safe with that 8th pick, but I understood that Isiah wanted Frye so I wasn't too pissed off though I was a little angry because Green and Bynum were there.

Then Isiah drafted Nate. I wanted a player with more height at that pick but I liked the pick because I think Nate will help us.

At pick 30, Isiah needed to swing for a home run. Instead, he took David Lee. I just don't see how you can justify taking another role player (which Lee is in my mind at his best). I really hope I'm wrong but I don't see Lee becoming a very good player in this league. Blatche made much more sense here and he should've been picked.

So far, I don't like the OVERALL job Isiah has done with this draft. Had Isiah taken someone like Blatche at 30, I would be thinking much different.
Don't forget to throw Q Rich in when evaluating Isiah's job tonight. He can be our SG/SF for the next 8 years
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6/28/2005  10:54 PM
Disaster. We have the most tweeners in the entire league now. GREAT.

Nate Robinson... my god. Unbelievable. Not a bad player, very exciting, but not a player that will help us win.
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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6/28/2005  10:56 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by s3231:

I didn't want to go safe with that 8th pick, but I understood that Isiah wanted Frye so I wasn't too pissed off though I was a little angry because Green and Bynum were there.

Then Isiah drafted Nate. I wanted a player with more height at that pick but I liked the pick because I think Nate will help us.

At pick 30, Isiah needed to swing for a home run. Instead, he took David Lee. I just don't see how you can justify taking another role player (which Lee is in my mind at his best). I really hope I'm wrong but I don't see Lee becoming a very good player in this league. Blatche made much more sense here and he should've been picked.

So far, I don't like the OVERALL job Isiah has done with this draft. Had Isiah taken someone like Blatche at 30, I would be thinking much different.
Don't forget to throw Q Rich in when evaluating Isiah's job tonight. He can be our SG/SF for the next 8 years










I evaluate the Q-Rich trade separately because it is a trade not a draft pick. I love the Q-Rich trade as I have said on a number of occassions and I like the Robinson pick. However, we had 3 first round picks at the end of the day and we didn't take a player with a high ceiling with either pick IMO. I do think we are a better team because of tonight's draft, but I'm dissapointed because I think we could have done better.
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6/28/2005  10:57 PM
swinging for the fences? i definitely would have gone with blatche. totally surprised we didn't grab him, but also that no one early in the second has picked him up. what's the deal, why does no one want a piece of him?
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6/28/2005  11:04 PM
I'm shocked that Taft fell to #42! Has anyone ever fallen from top 5 or 10 projections to the 40s before in a period of about 6 weeks???
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6/28/2005  11:06 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

I'm shocked that Taft fell to #42! Has anyone ever fallen from top 5 or 10 projections to the 40s before in a period of about 6 weeks???

Loren Woods was predicted to go top 12 a few years ago and went #46.
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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6/28/2005  11:10 PM
Posted by Solace:

Disaster. We have the most tweeners in the entire league now. GREAT.

Nate Robinson... my god. Unbelievable. Not a bad player, very exciting, but not a player that will help us win.

Im not total pleased with the draft but to say that Nate Robinson wont help us just doesnt make sense. The best athlete in the draft. Defensive beast. Plus he has three point range. Height is overrated
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6/28/2005  11:18 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by Solace:

Disaster. We have the most tweeners in the entire league now. GREAT.

Nate Robinson... my god. Unbelievable. Not a bad player, very exciting, but not a player that will help us win.

Im not total pleased with the draft but to say that Nate Robinson wont help us just doesnt make sense. The best athlete in the draft. Defensive beast. Plus he has three point range. Height is overrated

I think height is underrated. This is basketball. Tell me one team that wins a championship without height! We don't have ANY height. We used the #21 pick on a guy who won't get more than 8 mpg. It makes ZERO sense.
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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6/28/2005  11:19 PM
Blatche refused to workout for teams thinking he would go early. Wow. NOw teams just say no thanks.
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6/28/2005  11:19 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Blatche refused to workout for teams thinking he would go early. Wow. NOw teams just say no thanks.

ouch
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6/28/2005  11:21 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by Solace:

Disaster. We have the most tweeners in the entire league now. GREAT.

Nate Robinson... my god. Unbelievable. Not a bad player, very exciting, but not a player that will help us win.

Im not total pleased with the draft but to say that Nate Robinson wont help us just doesnt make sense. The best athlete in the draft. Defensive beast. Plus he has three point range. Height is overrated

I think height is underrated. This is basketball. Tell me one team that wins a championship without height! We don't have ANY height. We used the #21 pick on a guy who won't get more than 8 mpg. It makes ZERO sense.
The Knicks won a championship with a 6'8" center not even playing in the most pivotal game against one of the most dominating centers.
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6/28/2005  11:24 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by Solace:

Disaster. We have the most tweeners in the entire league now. GREAT.

Nate Robinson... my god. Unbelievable. Not a bad player, very exciting, but not a player that will help us win.

Im not total pleased with the draft but to say that Nate Robinson wont help us just doesnt make sense. The best athlete in the draft. Defensive beast. Plus he has three point range. Height is overrated

I think height is underrated. This is basketball. Tell me one team that wins a championship without height! We don't have ANY height. We used the #21 pick on a guy who won't get more than 8 mpg. It makes ZERO sense.
The Knicks won a championship with a 6'8" center not even playing in the most pivotal game against one of the most dominating centers.

you're talking about 30 years ago- the game was VERY DIFFERENT!

Today's game is speed and height- I don't see the need for Nate-


For anyone who wanted Chris Anderson- we got him and much cheaper.
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