EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

Nalod wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

martin wrote:Knicks are back to back Championship hunting. I don't have a whiff of what Leon is thinking but I'm confident enough that they will not target the likes of Sims.

Leon is shopping for a NY Deli roast beef on rye. Sims is a hot pocket.

Sims had his best season for the tanking Bucks playing 19min a game. with career highs for rebs' and Pts. 5.5 rebs and 5 pts.
Hot pocket or Crustable, he would be 3rd string. This is what 2.5mil buys these days. One might have to make an assumption that with more minutes he gained experience and poise? His contract also runs out this year.

Logic dictates given extensions to others and with just 13 roster spots taken with many questions to be answers such as Deuce and Nickel there is a trade to be made. What that is remains to be rumored.

August is kind of a vacation month for Front offices to some extent. Im only guessing Leon is not neglecting the need and has irons in the fire to not leave Knicks with two centers. Drummond might not be washed up but at age 33 played a solid 19 min avg himself and had nice numbers over 63 games. KAT won't play 82 games and yes we need another player who can in a pinch play.

Yo hot pockets can be the bomb at 3am after a night of drinking, let us not diminish the hot pocket delight factor

Lava pockets?

No doubt to go with the lava lights shorty after

newyorknewyork wrote:Ideally would want to swap Deuce with a backup PF who can slide over an play 3rd C as well. Slide Mo more towards a 3/4 for the upcoming season.

Problem is can't really identify that player given the need to match salaries or availablility.

Bol Bol 10 day contract next January

Philc1 wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

martin wrote:Knicks are back to back Championship hunting. I don't have a whiff of what Leon is thinking but I'm confident enough that they will not target the likes of Sims.

Leon is shopping for a NY Deli roast beef on rye. Sims is a hot pocket.

Sims is a portabello grilled cheese.

He is a fright wig on super struts with extra cheese

newyorknewyork wrote:With Denver trading away Peyton Watson.

Swapping Deuce for DaRon Holmes II & 2nd rounder(s) makes sense for both teams.

Really liked Holmes coming out of the draft. Going into his 3rd season after missing his entire rookie year with a freak injury during workouts after the draft. Should start to establish himself as a rotational guy.

Deuce would be a nice fit around Joker in Denver who now needs upgraded guard depth.

Holmes is a 6'9 PF who missed a full year and only played 25 games last year? I think Deuce is worth a lot more.

Denver is in second apron hell and Deuce will be an UFA at the end of the year. They just traded away Payton because of the exact circumstance unfortunately.

Knixkik wrote:

Nalod wrote:ANy thoughts or has anyone read what Deuces Salary projections might be?

I haven’t seen any articles on it specifically. I originally thought he may earn in the MLE range, similar to Mitch. Now I’m thinking with the way the league is going, he may not get an offer that big. His floor is the contract that Collin Sexton got, in that 9-10 mil per year range. The most likely range I think is where Collin Gillespie signed this summer. 4 years 48M seems really fair to me, with maybe a player option on year 4. I’m not sure if the Knicks can afford that with KAT and Hart extensions coming, but I have always really wanted to keep Deuce and I am generally against dealing him for a backup center. Deuce is the glue that keeps the bench together considering he is probably the best catch and shoot player on the team, and is a great point of attack defender. He can be plugged into so many lineups.

Good take and reasonable logic for a well liked home grown Knick. To be fair, I think he deserves an extension but disagree on beng the glue for the bench. That is Shamet now. Deuce is not the same defender he was nor should he be. He earned his minutes in the Thibian system by contributing even when the shots don't go down. With Clarkson knicks hae better length and the range is there. Behind that is Dadiet who cannot be counted on but is still on the roster. In my opinion players working on weakness somtimes regress from their strength. We saw that with IQ and Deuce's development as a knick example. Then it clicks.
Dadiet could and would fill in behind CLarkson and Shamet. We did win our chip and Deuce was not as big a factor. Much of it was on his abdominal injury. If knicks were counting on him going foward would we have paid Shamet and Clarkson? I don't know.
Fact is we could run it back with a healthy Duece and perhaps let him be unrestricted. Maybe we resign him, maybe he walks.
Can't keep everyone and need room for others to grow.

Dadiet can shoot but seems like he works on getting to the rim more as a priority in this Gleague and again in summer league. As a fan I cannot properly asscess his place in the roster.

I do know we need more depth at the 5 as KAT/Drummond are both over 30. Huk was obviously not a favorite of Browns.
Its no accident Mitch in Boston and Huk in Philly to disclose the secrets? Not that it matters as there is plenty of tape to disect Knicks playoff brilliance but they are one of manny gunning for us. As always its one thing to know how to stop a team. Its another to execute the game plan!

Nalod wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Nalod wrote:ANy thoughts or has anyone read what Deuces Salary projections might be?

I havent seen any articles on it specifically. I originally thought he may earn in the MLE range, similar to Mitch. Now I;m thinking with the way the league is going, he may not get an offer that big. His floor is the contract that Collin Sexton got, in that 9-10 mil per year range. The most likely range I think is where Collin Gillespie signed this summer. 4 years 48M seems really fair to me, with maybe a player option on year 4. I;m not sure if the Knicks can afford that with KAT and Hart extensions coming, but I have always really wanted to keep Deuce and I am generally against dealing him for a backup center. Deuce is the glue that keeps the bench together considering he is probably the best catch and shoot player on the team, and is a great point of attack defender. He can be plugged into so many lineups.

Good take and reasonable logic for a well liked home grown Knick. To be fair, I think he deserves an extension but disagree on beng the glue for the bench. That is Shamet now. Deuce is not the same defender he was nor should he be. He earned his minutes in the Thibian system by contributing even when the shots don't go down. With Clarkson knicks hae better length and the range is there. Behind that is Dadiet who cannot be counted on but is still on the roster. In my opinion players working on weakness somtimes regress from their strength. We saw that with IQ and Deuce's development as a knick example. Then it clicks.
Dadiet could and would fill in behind CLarkson and Shamet. We did win our chip and Deuce was not as big a factor. Much of it was on his abdominal injury. If knicks were counting on him going foward would we have paid Shamet and Clarkson? I don't know.
Fact is we could run it back with a healthy Duece and perhaps let him be unrestricted. Maybe we resign him, maybe he walks.
Can't keep everyone and need room for others to grow.

Dadiet can shoot but seems like he works on getting to the rim more as a priority in this Gleague and again in summer league. As a fan I cannot properly asscess his place in the roster.

I do know we need more depth at the 5 as KAT/Drummond are both over 30. Huk was obviously not a favorite of Browns.
Its no accident Mitch in Boston and Huk in Philly to disclose the secrets? Not that it matters as there is plenty of tape to disect Knicks playoff brilliance but they are one of manny gunning for us. As always its one thing to know how to stop a team. Its another to execute the game plan!

"Everyone's got a plan till they get punched in the face." - Mike Tyson

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:Whitemore former Villinova guy. Fell in the draft for many reasons, Knee cartilage thought to not hold up longer term, bad interviews, and many college games were not impactful. Its why he fall to 20th. He played just 26 games last season due to blood clot.
He is 6-6 and listed as a Small Forward.
If he is waived and clears, he needs playing time or "an opportunity" to restore some credibility and get a bigger pay day.
Im not that familiar if he can play the 4.
3 years in and he just turned 22 last month!

Got a ton of maturity and motor issues too as far as I can understand.

You right on the opportunity, he has got to find the right fit and then do some things in this life that he has never done before and make that decision ahead of time, convince his new team he is worth it, and commit to it.

For all we know the villinova connection might give our guys enough insight to stay away from him? 3 years in reputations are already ingrained. Don't mean one can't emerge and mature. Just because he played one season there don't mean our guys are obligated to babysit/mentor him.