Knixkik wrote:

DLeethal wrote:KAT trade is starting to look like a legendary one in hindsight.

It really is. KAT is certainly a top 20 player and I don’t think Randle is top 50 at this point. Done and that 17th pick didn’t really offset that difference.

The Karl Anthony Towns that the Timberwolves traded away is NOT the same Karl Anthony Towns the Knicks got. Same thing for Andrew Wiggins. The Wiggins that the Warriors got was not the Wiggins that spent years frustrating the hell out of Minnesota.

I am a little hesitant on any "narrative" that indicates that the TWolves committed some kind of player development malpractice here. There were times in Minnesota that both Wiggins and KAT needed a good solid punch in the face for a course correction. Sometimes players need a chance of scenery, but sometimes things happen as you get older and you can't get away with being a prick anymore.

A concern with KAT for the Knicks is he's a bit of a "Front Runner" Meaning when times are good, you get the Good Times version of KAT. When times are bad, you aren't getting a guy like Brunson or Curry who will keep a team steady no matter what.

I loved Donte D as a Knick. I hope they get him back as a bargain free agent in the 27-28 season. I'm just glad Randle is gone.

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Here's a video of people with the same tiresome "bitch made" attitude that Randle brought with him all the time. The exact same entitled mental midget type barrage of nothing but bile and chaos. There's a reason why the Lakers and Pelicans were happy to just let Randle walk away for nothing in return.

KAT at his full potential is a truly game changing player. But let's see if his current maturity holds. The TWolves dumping him was mostly about money but it wasn't just all about money.

But anything to get Randle off the Knicks roster looks palatable in comparison. Words cannot express how glad I was to see Randle GTFO of New York for good.

Did you hear the boos when Mamdani mentioned his name? Nearly blew out my iPad speaker.

Knixkik wrote:It’s crazy that Minnesota has very little value left to show from the KAT deal less than 2 years later.

Depends on what they do now with their newfound flexibility.

SergioNYK wrote:Randle and his moodiness on a losing team that doesn't matter in this area is not going to go well.

I hardly watch the Nets at all but I can only assume that their fanbase isn’t nearly as rabid as the Knick fanbase. Who knows though? I hope the Nets fans aren’t expecting him to be their savior or culture changer or great team leader. He is none of those.

Randle is one of the best in the NBA at grinding out average possessions and has been so for the past 6 seasons doing his 20/10/5 thing. His value to the Nets is that they won't be a bottom 3 team so they don't have to worry about relegation of their picks. Same value as Trae Young where because of the reforms no team wants to be bottom 3.

gradyandrew wrote:Not really sure what you guys are talking about. Randle probably the second most responsible guy for the Knicks winning rings after Brunson. Sorry but coaches and the front office don't actually play, and no one was more responsible for the Knicks resurgence then MIP/ 2nd Team All NBA Randle. Brunson/ OG/ KAT- none of those guys make sense unless Randle raised the floor enough on the Knicks to get them out of the 30 wins per season hell hole we lived in for 20 years. Bitch and complain about his attitude and playoff performances but acknowledge that there's a huge difference between losing and winning 50 games a year.

Randle is one of the best in the NBA at grinding out average possessions and has been so for the past 6 seasons doing his 20/10/5 thing. His value to the Nets is that they won't be a bottom 3 team so they don't have to worry about relegation of their picks. Same value as Trae Young where because of the reforms no team wants to be bottom 3.

Grady, it’s not worth the effort.

Now, why do we keep canonizing Randle? Yes, he came here when nobody else would, but he also had many downs related to his mood swings and his solo play. Thanks for your service, but we move on. The championship we just accomplished was a true team work from players to even coaches. This was accomplished by this group and the recognition should stop there (with maybe a mention to Thibs for establishing a strong base).

I thought Randle/DDV also provided great value both to Minny. Not like they failed. Randle is paid 33mil and not the defacto leader of that team. Thats on Ant. He gets a lot of the ire for his obvious defensive lapses and deservingly so, but perspective is he is not a max player nor the go to guy. Minny needed to move KAT to keep the others. Rudy was bascially untradable so both teams got what they needed.

Good trade for Minny, great trade for Knicks! Also demonstrates player labels are not indelible. KAT defied most critics in many ways. He did it on the court, not the court of public opinion!

Randle has done more than "Fugazy Thomas" and some others that been roaming the sidelines as "Knick Royalty". In time I hope fans and the organization can keep him in "the family" or at least in good standing. I guess if he sticks with Nets we get a very nice inter borough rival and the poor guy will hear taunts from knick fans from time to time. I kind of feel bad for the guy in that sense. He is paid very nice to take it. As long as he does little to hurt knicks, I wish him all the best!