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Chandler wrote:FWIW we seem to have great success w second round picks and not so much w lottery level ones.

Frank Ntilikina and Kevin Knox would like to have a word with you

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martin wrote:First pick of the second round, #31 so far

Me likey. The Lampe is lit!!!

I was so pumped about that pick. Big name around these parts that summer.

Or how about Milos Vujancic? I was hyped for both of them. Lampe at least might've been an elite talent but was ahead of his time. In this space and pace era, I think he would've excelled.

Same for Bargnani!
But those injuries! Freaking Unicorns just can't hold up to the rigors of the NBA.
IN a less Physical era where the 3pt shot is revered Barg's career might have had a different Trajectory.

Kudo's to Leon for not having us in the Lottery!!!

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Chandler wrote:FWIW we seem to have great success w second round picks and not so much w lottery level ones.

Frank Ntilikina and Kevin Knox would like to have a word with you

Would that word be Bust?

I still hold stock on Frank Ntilikina island, lol

During the NBA GM meeting this week, one person suggested make the bottom three teams ineligible for the top picks entirely. The league, per multiple sources, found this to be way too extreme. But then another person on the call offered a softer version of the same concept: What if the bottom three teams just had slightly lower odds than the teams ranked four through 10? Not zero. Just a little less.

Sources on the call say Adam Silver responded enthusiastically to this idea. Which speaks to the state of lottery reform. The 18 team/8% odds for the top 10 concept is simply still just the concept. The specifics of it will change by the time the league votes on it in late May. And adjustments — like this one — are still in heavy consideration.

I think it’s brilliant. Under that structure, with the bottom three teams having slightly worse odds, there is no longer a single point in the standings where losing helps you. Tanking all the way to the bottom hurts you a bit. It’s not quite relegation that you’d see in the Premier League, but it’s the NBA’s own form that would punish being the worst in the league. And much like Premier League teams have entertaining games to prevent relegation, NBA teams would too.

Picture two bad teams in late March, both within a game of the bottom three, both desperate to win. That's a win for the fans. Picture the front office of the Wizards doing the calculus on whether to shut down Trae Young and Anthony Davis and realizing that, actually, no, the vets need to go play, because falling in the standings is a real cost now, not a reward. That's a win for the sport. Picture Sacramento intentionally fouling Seth Curry late in a game, and the conversation around it shifting from "nefarious tanking" to "bad coaching." That's a win for the league.

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Philc1 wrote:Only way to stop tanking and star players resting DNP when they aren’t injured is next CBA, put in that players with above X salary to include players on max and supermax deals have to be active a minimum 65 games to get full annual salary even if it’s guaranteed. If they play in less than 65 games the salary becomes pro rated. They already do that for awards like MVP. They can still do waivers for players with legitimate injuries like ACL tears and fractures those can be proven with MRIs and X-rays.

The NBAPA will scream bloody murder and their will be a massive strike but that is literally the only way to stop this.

You don't understand the word "Guaranteed"?

A massive strike is more damaging than tanking. The Tank was more widespread this year than in years past and league addressed it. It also gave the Silver some arbitrary leverage if a team steps over a line.
Its a deep draft and teams figured out if your not in the playoff hunt there is not incentive to win.
New rules address a lot of the issues.

Making injuries arbitrary for exceptions is an interesting concept but opens many complications. Most injuries are "legit".

On a side note don't see as much "Mental Illness" type disclosures this year as we have seen in the past. Perhaps League cracked down on that one? Not saying it was a tank type instrument, but was way open to interpretation.

nycericanguy wrote:I like some of the changes but they are overly complicated IMO. Just do flat odds for all lotto teams and extend it to the playin teams too and teams that lose in the 1st round.

worst thing that happens is a decent/good team gets the #1 and takes the next step.

Bottom teams that aren't shooting for playoffs won't compete still, they have zero incentive to. They will just tank less