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foosballnick
Posts: 21535 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/17/2010 Member: #3148 |
![]() gradyandrew wrote:Some back of the envelope math by me shows that Ca. residents making more than a million pay 13.3% in state income tax. 176 million x 13.3% is 23.4 million, pretty close to the 28 million Kawhi was paid. I believe that Pro Athletes are subject to something known as the "Jock Tax" where their State Tax rates are variable & divided up based on jurisdiction of games played in each location https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjq4v_Onb-PAxVTKlkFHTgZB8UQFnoECBgQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FJock_tax&usg=AOvVaw16EFITKpzlJ9UzsL_4Bi2e&opi=89978449 |
martin
Posts: 76503 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
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martin
Posts: 76503 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
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gradyandrew
Posts: 22444 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/19/2021 Member: #8959 |
![]() @nalod, I think the rules are a little different here because its not the rich using their power to screw over the regular guys, its rules they made up for themselves.
The Joe Smith ex is relevant but lets be clear, he wasnt a DPOY, 2x Finals MVP, Allstar. At best Joe was an above avg. power forward. Whatever the penalties are, I'd imagine them to be much, much stiffer. The other thing is the NBA really doesnt need to 'prove' anything. This isnt a crime so the only standard that needs to be followed is the NBAs. Even for the NBA, Ballmer is way richer and connected than anyone else. I cant see him having too many allies wanting to back him up. I cant get bet from China, but Id recommend taking the under on the Clippers win/ losses this season. At a minimum I'd expect Kawhi to have his current contract voided. |
VDesai
Posts: 42816 Alba Posts: 44 Joined: 10/28/2003 Member: #477 USA |
![]() He is going after Brunson next. We will see if anything is truly up, but he put Brunson in his crosshairs.
That said he went after "the gambling scandal," and didn't really find anything of note other than doing some entertainment. |
gradyandrew
Posts: 22444 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/19/2021 Member: #8959 |
![]() VDesai wrote:He is going after Brunson next. We will see if anything is truly up, but he put Brunson in his crosshairs. He said he's gotten a lot of calls from Brunson haters. Knicks were already penalized for signing him, so I'm guessing it's talk about his extension. The fact that Brunson's extension was equal to Bridges to within a million shouldn't be ignored. Seems far more likely that the only qpq was that the Knicks offer Mikal an extension. Since the extension was still below Mikals market value, I don't see a problem. |
Nalod
Posts: 71370 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
![]() gradyandrew wrote:@nalod, I think the rules are a little different here because its not the rich using their power to screw over the regular guys, its rules they made up for themselves. Im not here to do that prediction thing really good article about parallel to Joe smith thing and possible outcomes: It addresses some of the things you bought up. Good points BTW! I agree with you that itt should be more punitive reaction from the league but the CBA limits the damage and given a Ballmer is worth over $100 Billion is a drop in the bucket. Read the article as its addresses this and much more! It also mentions Brunson. Is there is something the league missed when it slapped Knicks for tampering? This about his extension and some crazy payment to a family member? |
martin
Posts: 76503 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
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Alpha1971
Posts: 23403 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 1/17/2022 Member: #9006 |
![]() These hints by this reporter seem to be implying Brunson and the Knicks of being guilty of some illegal conduct. That's not something the Knicks or Brunson should tolerate without threatening legal action.
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joec32033
Posts: 30615 Alba Posts: 37 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #583 USA |
![]() Alpha1971 wrote:These hints by this reporter seem to be implying Brunson and the Knicks of being guilty of some illegal conduct. That's not something the Knicks or Brunson should tolerate without threatening legal action. Was going to say something similiar. He phrased it in a way that he was just bringing up a name because he took whatever deal he took and it seemed to help the team too much. More like a teaser to an upcoming movie. Then finished with what he "may or may not find" or some similiar phrasing. Very poor way for a reporter/journalist to conduct his business. ~You can't run from who you are.~
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gradyandrew
Posts: 22444 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/19/2021 Member: #8959 |
![]() Asked if Robertson had asked for any additional benefits that would not comply with league rules, Ballmer said, "They know the rules. They meaning, Kawhi and his representatives, including his uncle. We know the rules. And if anything's not clear, we remind ourselves what the rules are and we make absolutely clear we're going to abide by those rules and they understand them as well. And it's important for them to abide by them, which they have." Dude, Balmer could have just said no. This is classic deception. |
martin
Posts: 76503 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
![]() gradyandrew wrote:Asked if Robertson had asked for any additional benefits that would not comply with league rules, Ballmer said, "They know the rules. They meaning, Kawhi and his representatives, including his uncle. We know the rules. And if anything's not clear, we remind ourselves what the rules are and we make absolutely clear we're going to abide by those rules and they understand them as well. And it's important for them to abide by them, which they have." The context is just a hint different. It's clear that the Uncle here has absolutely asked for stuff that goes beyond the rules. I don't think No is really the correct or appropriate answer. Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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martin
Posts: 76503 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
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gradyandrew
Posts: 22444 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/19/2021 Member: #8959 |
![]() Latest news is Kawhi also had $20 million in stock options which were never exercised because Aspiration went bankrupt. Balmer invested 50 million of his own money which was part of a 350 million capital raise. So Balmer's 50 equals Kawhis 28 salary + 20 in stock options, with 2 million for overhead. The bigger problem is that capital raise for Balmer. Not disclosing that his 50 was actually about paying Kawhi and not investing in the company will definitely be a problem for the other investors. Im sure they thought Balmer believed in the company, and that convinced them to get involved too.
This is where discovery will come from. Im not sure what powers the NBA has to look at internal communications in Aspire, but you can sure bet some other investors will want to get involved because Balmer is one of the few guys in the world who can make the other investors whole. |
gradyandrew
Posts: 22444 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/19/2021 Member: #8959 |
![]() martin wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Kawhi ain't some innocent bystander here. He will be suspended for the season, the question is whether or not he gets banned for life. |
gradyandrew
Posts: 22444 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/19/2021 Member: #8959 |
![]() One thing I havent seen written about so far, what were the potential luxury tax psyments the Clippers avoided by having Kawhi paid off the books 21 million over 3 years? My numbers so far
Season LuxTaxLine Clippers Salary ClipsLuxTaxPayment LAC were lux tax payers in each of the three seasons.In all seasons they were top 3 in salary. Because of the escalating structure of luxury tax payments, including repeater penalties, its likely the fraud committed on other owners is over 100 million. If anyone can ask an ai chatbot for some answers, Id be curious to know the results. |