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martin
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8/23/2021  1:05 PM
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CleaverGreene wrote:Just hoping a new mutation doesn't pop up that the vaccines can't handle as well.

I have a long term thought that COVID-19 will be like a stronger, deadlier version of the flu and that most of us will all get it at some level over the next 2-5 years. Yearly flu/COVID shots will be norm.

There will be mutations that are worse; the world over is just too populated with stupid leaders who value their own power and $ over that cause.

The world had a very fast month in early 2020 or even late 2019 to adequately deal with this and we collectively failed cause of world leaders like Trump and Johnson and the like. We probably never really had a chance with the structures in China, Russia, India, Brazil, Europe etc.

Starting to think the federal government should be like the idiots on the far right. Who do not care about what they say or theories they push It became okay for Trump to say what ever he wanted without any consequences. The far right even called it heroic. Time for the left to do a little bit of the same. How about no federal funding for hospitals in states that do not require vaccinations. How bout no federal funding for schools in states that do not follow federal mandates for makes. How about people that are vaccinated get first dibs on ICU beds over those that chose to roll the dice? Insurance companies have already said you will not be fully covered for covid treatment if you were not vaccinated. Doctors walked out in South Florida this morning to show they are being overworked by those that are not vaccinated. It's time the ignorant stop getting a free pass yet those following science get penalized due to there irresponsible behavior. We all know that if Trump was still president he would be forcing states to do his will. Like Desantis is doing with school boards in Florida. Many Dems think that it would hurt Biden to do so but think many are tired of these idiots forcing hands and Dems being the good guys for fear of how an aggressive move will be perceived. Think it's time to give Texas and Florida a taste of their own governmental pressure.

But you are right. This will be something that we all deal with from now on. Already getting ready for my booster shot.

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8/23/2021  1:08 PM
martin wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
martin wrote:
CleaverGreene wrote:Just hoping a new mutation doesn't pop up that the vaccines can't handle as well.

I have a long term thought that COVID-19 will be like a stronger, deadlier version of the flu and that most of us will all get it at some level over the next 2-5 years. Yearly flu/COVID shots will be norm.

There will be mutations that are worse; the world over is just too populated with stupid leaders who value their own power and $ over that cause.

The world had a very fast month in early 2020 or even late 2019 to adequately deal with this and we collectively failed cause of world leaders like Trump and Johnson and the like. We probably never really had a chance with the structures in China, Russia, India, Brazil, Europe etc.

Starting to think the federal government should be like the idiots on the far right. Who do not care about what they say or theories they push It became okay for Trump to say what ever he wanted without any consequences. The far right even called it heroic. Time for the left to do a little bit of the same. How about no federal funding for hospitals in states that do not require vaccinations. How bout no federal funding for schools in states that do not follow federal mandates for makes. How about people that are vaccinated get first dibs on ICU beds over those that chose to roll the dice? Insurance companies have already said you will not be fully covered for covid treatment if you were not vaccinated. Doctors walked out in South Florida this morning to show they are being overworked by those that are not vaccinated. It's time the ignorant stop getting a free pass yet those following science get penalized due to there irresponsible behavior. We all know that if Trump was still president he would be forcing states to do his will. Like Desantis is doing with school boards in Florida. Many Dems think that it would hurt Biden to do so but think many are tired of these idiots forcing hands and Dems being the good guys for fear of how an aggressive move will be perceived. Think it's time to give Texas and Florida a taste of their own governmental pressure.

But you are right. This will be something that we all deal with from now on. Already getting ready for my booster shot.

That a girl! Tired of the soft stance on those that do not know how serious this is for many.

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8/23/2021  1:30 PM
martin wrote:
CleaverGreene wrote:Just hoping a new mutation doesn't pop up that the vaccines can't handle as well.

I have a long term thought that COVID-19 will be like a stronger, deadlier version of the flu and that most of us will all get it at some level over the next 2-5 years. Yearly flu/COVID shots will be norm.

There will be mutations that are worse; the world over is just too populated with stupid leaders who value their own power and $ over that cause.

The world had a very fast month in early 2020 or even late 2019 to adequately deal with this and we collectively failed cause of world leaders like Trump and Johnson and the like. We probably never really had a chance with the structures in China, Russia, India, Brazil, Europe etc.


I've already hard-coded it into my brain that I'll be getting Covid boosters for the foreseeable future, and while I've never gotten a flu shot, I might start do that if I'm already seeing a doctor to get the Covid vaccine.

At my age I'm not willing to risk infection. "Long Covid" is always a possibility, and the potential of suffering a lack of lung capacity (my worst fear) as someone on Social Security, is not something on my to-do list.

I'm actually quite fine with being a kind of hermit, who doesn't associate with more than 15-20 people, except when shopping at Costco or Trader Joe's. Thankfully, New York is as good or better than many states at this point in terms of vaccination, and hopefully that will improve.

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8/23/2021  1:45 PM
Flu shot is not just about preventing it, it can also make it less severe.
I had the flue 27 years ago and it kicked my ass. Now older it could kill me. Doubtful. I been getting flu shot for years. Have I had some illness I drove from my body in a day or two? Sure. Was it flu getting its ass kicked by my enhanced immunity? MAYBE.

Covid sucks. Vax MIGHT be difference between life or death.

What societies don’t put a priority of children before themselves? I can understand questioning vaxing children. We defeated measles, polio, small pox. This is how you do it folks. How do we protect the kids?
We don’t have to vax every child if we protect them. But we are not are we?

So what piece of **** society are we becoming when we put our children behind ideology and politics?

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8/23/2021  2:05 PM
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martin wrote:Feel like there will be a few things that start the momentum of getting more counties and states to a better place.


Partner teaches in Queens...she is still not sure how everything is going to work out there.

She was a non-political anti-vaxxer, but I, and others, convinced her to get her shots. I suppose I was the test subject she got to observe.

Because she got them so late, she will be at peak potency when she goes back in September.

I expect full FDA approval for Pfizer, which might happen tomorrow, will be a game changer for teachers when it finally comes through.

I'm still worried about her picking up the virus at school & then bringing it back home, though. I'm old enough to be able to get a booster sometime early next year, & will probably do it.

Just hoping a new mutation doesn't pop up that the vaccines can't handle as well.

Glad she “evolved” like many of us to take the Vax. I sure did not want to be first in line but as things got worse and my Doctor friends told me they were in on the early trials THEMSELVES I got in on it.

she is brave to face those little superspreaders we all students!

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8/23/2021  3:50 PM
Nalod wrote:
CleaverGreene wrote:
martin wrote:Feel like there will be a few things that start the momentum of getting more counties and states to a better place.


Partner teaches in Queens...she is still not sure how everything is going to work out there.

She was a non-political anti-vaxxer, but I, and others, convinced her to get her shots. I suppose I was the test subject she got to observe.

Because she got them so late, she will be at peak potency when she goes back in September.

I expect full FDA approval for Pfizer, which might happen tomorrow, will be a game changer for teachers when it finally comes through.

I'm still worried about her picking up the virus at school & then bringing it back home, though. I'm old enough to be able to get a booster sometime early next year, & will probably do it.

Just hoping a new mutation doesn't pop up that the vaccines can't handle as well.

Glad she “evolved” like many of us to take the Vax. I sure did not want to be first in line but as things got worse and my Doctor friends told me they were in on the early trials THEMSELVES I got in on it.

she is brave to face those little superspreaders we all students!

Looks like she wasn't going to have a choice, anyway. She just finished her term as UFT rep, and has told me there are a number of anti-vaxxers among the school staff. Will be interesting to see what the folks in that category who aren't old enough to retire, do. I'm expecting some fireworks.

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8/23/2021  4:57 PM
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8/23/2021  7:15 PM
CleaverGreene wrote:
Nalod wrote:
CleaverGreene wrote:
martin wrote:Feel like there will be a few things that start the momentum of getting more counties and states to a better place.


Partner teaches in Queens...she is still not sure how everything is going to work out there.

She was a non-political anti-vaxxer, but I, and others, convinced her to get her shots. I suppose I was the test subject she got to observe.

Because she got them so late, she will be at peak potency when she goes back in September.

I expect full FDA approval for Pfizer, which might happen tomorrow, will be a game changer for teachers when it finally comes through.

I'm still worried about her picking up the virus at school & then bringing it back home, though. I'm old enough to be able to get a booster sometime early next year, & will probably do it.

Just hoping a new mutation doesn't pop up that the vaccines can't handle as well.

Glad she “evolved” like many of us to take the Vax. I sure did not want to be first in line but as things got worse and my Doctor friends told me they were in on the early trials THEMSELVES I got in on it.

she is brave to face those little superspreaders we all students!

Looks like she wasn't going to have a choice, anyway. She just finished her term as UFT rep, and has told me there are a number of anti-vaxxers among the school staff. Will be interesting to see what the folks in that category who aren't old enough to retire, do. I'm expecting some fireworks.

Anti vaxers believe its there right to choose. Perhaps. But not the right to work as a teacher.

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8/24/2021  12:46 PM
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8/24/2021  2:41 PM
It's unfortunate

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8/24/2021  7:24 PM
I will just never be able to wrap my head around any of this. This is America. This is who we are in greater part.

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8/24/2021  7:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/24/2021  7:51 PM
You know what… **** it. We should just put all manufacturing efforts towards ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

It might be more effective at ending the pandemic, as well as an entire political party.

Two birds.

I’m kidding. I think. I don’t know… I been snorting bleach all day.

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I know this well. During the height of the pandemic in NY I called every funeral home and crematory in NYC everyday and every single one was filled to capacity. It took me about 12 days of calling every one to finally get one to help me. You don't need numbers given by the government to tell how good or bad they are handling this pandemic. Especially since they can be manipulated. Just call a few funeral homes and you will easily get your answer.

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8/25/2021  12:20 PM
ToddTT wrote:You know what… **** it. We should just put all manufacturing efforts towards ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

It might be more effective at ending the pandemic, as well as an entire political party.

Two birds.

I’m kidding. I think. I don’t know… I been snorting bleach all day.

I think we should all buy stock in VIP Pet Care Services. I predict millions of anti-vaxxers will flood their local Petcos after changing the weights of their dogs so they score some Heartgard. With a calculator they can probably figure out how to weigh their Pitbulls and adjust the weight so they get the right dose...

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8/25/2021  2:10 PM
jskinny35 wrote:
ToddTT wrote:You know what… **** it. We should just put all manufacturing efforts towards ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

It might be more effective at ending the pandemic, as well as an entire political party.

Two birds.

I’m kidding. I think. I don’t know… I been snorting bleach all day.

I think we should all buy stock in VIP Pet Care Services. I predict millions of anti-vaxxers will flood their local Petcos after changing the weights of their dogs so they score some Heartgard. With a calculator they can probably figure out how to weigh their Pitbulls and adjust the weight so they get the right dose...

We jest because sometimes all you can do is look to humor for a distraction/break.

I do hope that there is no correlation involving pits… the most wonderful dogs on the planet! To know one is to love one.

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8/25/2021  2:47 PM
Clean wrote:

I know this well. During the height of the pandemic in NY I called every funeral home and crematory in NYC everyday and every single one was filled to capacity. It took me about 12 days of calling every one to finally get one to help me. You don't need numbers given by the government to tell how good or bad they are handling this pandemic. Especially since they can be manipulated. Just call a few funeral homes and you will easily get your answer.

"It's just the regular flu" they say. SMH!

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8/25/2021  2:51 PM
martin wrote:I will just never be able to wrap my head around any of this. This is America. This is who we are in greater part.


Not too loud. The ignorant may hear you. I say bottoms up.

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8/25/2021  5:27 PM
ToddTT wrote:
jskinny35 wrote:
ToddTT wrote:You know what… **** it. We should just put all manufacturing efforts towards ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

It might be more effective at ending the pandemic, as well as an entire political party.

Two birds.

I’m kidding. I think. I don’t know… I been snorting bleach all day.

I think we should all buy stock in VIP Pet Care Services. I predict millions of anti-vaxxers will flood their local Petcos after changing the weights of their dogs so they score some Heartgard. With a calculator they can probably figure out how to weigh their Pitbulls and adjust the weight so they get the right dose...

We jest because sometimes all you can do is look to humor for a distraction/break.

I do hope that there is no correlation involving pits… the most wonderful dogs on the planet! To know one is to love one.

I would like to take this moment to apologize to all Pit Bulls and owners of Pit Bulls - my characterizations were unfair, untrue and I sincerely apologize. I will reflect on my conduct and not remain lazily uneducated going forward.

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8/25/2021  5:51 PM
jskinny35 wrote:
ToddTT wrote:
jskinny35 wrote:
ToddTT wrote:You know what… **** it. We should just put all manufacturing efforts towards ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

It might be more effective at ending the pandemic, as well as an entire political party.

Two birds.

I’m kidding. I think. I don’t know… I been snorting bleach all day.

I think we should all buy stock in VIP Pet Care Services. I predict millions of anti-vaxxers will flood their local Petcos after changing the weights of their dogs so they score some Heartgard. With a calculator they can probably figure out how to weigh their Pitbulls and adjust the weight so they get the right dose...

We jest because sometimes all you can do is look to humor for a distraction/break.

I do hope that there is no correlation involving pits… the most wonderful dogs on the planet! To know one is to love one.

I would like to take this moment to apologize to all Pit Bulls and owners of Pit Bulls - my characterizations were unfair, untrue and I sincerely apologize. I will reflect on my conduct and not remain lazily uneducated going forward.

It’s all good jskinny! I went 30+ years without knowing how amazing they are.

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