meloshouldgo wrote:

Nalod wrote:A new generation has kicked in. Rubio, Cruz, Ryan (dude looks good compared to the first two) and other robot party homers who are professional politicians that are too controlled by the money that installed them.
Pat Mcrory, North Carolina Gov. was a moderate progressive mayor in Charlotte but had to bow to the machine if he wanted to be Governor and sold his sole. This young up and coming group of conservatives are unyielding party homers who are moving the party so far to the right they are fracturing the GOP and at the same time dividing the masses!

No thank you, I'll take the old guard who was far from perfect but at least crossed the isle and governed. Witness the idiocy of overturning Obama's veto on 911 victims able to sue Saudi Arabia, and then overturning the veto by majority. Sounds like Obama did some "Muslim friendly" act right? No, if we enact abilty to sue a sovereign nation, then THEY CAN DO THE SAME TO US!!! Morons are now backpeddling and blaming Obama for not giving them enough time. THE MORONS OVERTURNED THE VETO!!! Look it up people, this is the new young GOP who don't think, they react AGAINST OBAMA.

This fellow Mcmullin? Former CIA operative now Goldman Sachs banker. Isn't that "Jack Ryan" from Tom Clancy novels?

You realize the Senate voted unanimously (except Harry Reid 97-1) to overturn the veto, right?
I don't disagree with the rest of your post but the right wing homers weren't the only people voting against the issue you used as an example. Every Democrat in the Senate was an equal idiot in the same light.

Harry Reid is the only one not seeking office again..Those politicians don't want to run for office again saying they voted against 9/11 families, which was the right thing to do..They were selling the country down the drain while covering their own butts..No guts to do the right thing..We have a larger footprint in the world than most countries..Get ready for Japanese families suing the American government when our soldiers take advantage of another Japanese girl in Okinawa..

martin wrote:

holfresh wrote:Trump often donated to State Attorney Generals while they were reviewing his businesses...-WSJ

That's his form of "charity"

You know at this point all these new reports are utterly meaningless..His supporters have come to terms with him being a sleazy con man and couldn't care less...

Knickoftime wrote:

holfresh wrote:

martin wrote:

holfresh wrote:Trump often donated to State Attorney Generals while they were reviewing his businesses...-WSJ

That's his form of "charity"

You know at this point all these new reports are utterly meaningless..His supporters have come to terms with him being a sleazy con man and couldn't care less...

To his die-hards, yes of course. That's already been proven and undisputed. But he doesn't have sufficient diehards to win the electoral college, but any credible model.

And the polls numbers HAVE moved, significantly, since the debate.

That makes the stories relevant.

The Cuba story may not get a lot of traction nationally and on cable news, but could be a factor in Dade County FL.

The Chinese steel story might not get a play nationally on cable news, but could be a factor in OH and PA.

And his biggest demographic shortcoming compared to previous Republicans is college educated whites, where there is likely more awareness/engagement in these issues and where he needs to make up significant ground, not tread water much less bleed any more support.

From your lips/keyboard to the heavens...Well maybe the evangelicals can seize on the latest video of Trump pouring champagne in a playboy softporn video filmed in 2000..

holfresh wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

holfresh wrote:

martin wrote:

holfresh wrote:Trump often donated to State Attorney Generals while they were reviewing his businesses...-WSJ

That's his form of "charity"

You know at this point all these new reports are utterly meaningless..His supporters have come to terms with him being a sleazy con man and couldn't care less...

To his die-hards, yes of course. That's already been proven and undisputed. But he doesn't have sufficient diehards to win the electoral college, but any credible model.

And the polls numbers HAVE moved, significantly, since the debate.

That makes the stories relevant.

The Cuba story may not get a lot of traction nationally and on cable news, but could be a factor in Dade County FL.

The Chinese steel story might not get a play nationally on cable news, but could be a factor in OH and PA.

And his biggest demographic shortcoming compared to previous Republicans is college educated whites, where there is likely more awareness/engagement in these issues and where he needs to make up significant ground, not tread water much less bleed any more support.

From your lips/keyboard to the heavens...Well maybe the evangelicals can seize on the latest video of Trump pouring champagne in a playboy softporn video filmed in 2000..

This entire cycle has been predictable.

In 2008 and 2012, Democrats freaked out whenever Obama had a bad news cycle and the polls tightened a little, which they're almost always going to go. They are fluid, not static, by rule.

The press wants a horserace, the people expect it and the candidates at human beings in the middle of grueling schedules. They stumble and underperform for cycles, again, almost by rule.

holfresh wrote:

arkrud wrote:

holfresh wrote:

arkrud wrote:New interesting face in the campaign with some inside info:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/have-a-question-for-independent-presidential-candidate-evan-mcmullin-ask-it-now-2016-10-03
This elections is the last cry for current edging political elite.
Time for new generation to kick in.
Geriatric leaders will not get us too far and for sure not out of stagnation we are in.
Time for change is coming and it is inevitable.

I'm always intrigued by the fact that people are so willing to gravitate to unknown entitles with very little information..Obama elite or geriatric?

Obama is the first African American president. The rest is not so important.
Hilary will be the first woman president...
Then as we will not need first Gay president (Canada did it for us) we can concentrate on someone who can make a difference...
Unless we will want first Jewish president... Will be cool...

So +25 million more people with healthcare not so important?..Capturing and killing Osama Bin Laden not so important? Wind down of wars abroad not important? Iran nuclear deal not so important? Cuba? Staying out of Lybia, Syria, not so important?..Saved the auto industry when Republicans were against it, not important.??..Navigating through the biggest deepest economic downturn since the depression, not important??.. Historic climate deal not so important? The fact that the world no longer hates us and think we are arrogant, not important? Smart Power, not important? Not attacking Iran for Israel's sake not important ?.. Let the space shuttle program die and allowed private industry to enter into the space race which has created an entire new industry against republican wishes..I can go on...

So +25 million more people with healthcare not so important?.. And who will pay for this - all us by premiums rising, probably will be doubling, and a lot of providers getting out of it to stay in business.. Program is not sustainable and over-complicated. I do not think it will last long as is.
Capturing and killing Osama Bin Laden not so important? Not sure why we wait for so long after knowing where he is for 5 years...
Wind down of wars abroad not important? - He finished what was already started.
Iran nuclear deal not so important? - Terrible deal which will have grave consequences.
Cuba? What is has to do with Obama... He was president at a time... And it is just in infant state
Staying out of Lybia, Syria, not so important?.. We are in Syria and we are dangling in Lybia. No ground troops so it will last forever with no results.Waste of time and resources.
Saved the auto industry when Republicans were against it, not important.??.. Bail out some suckers. The jobs are shipped overseas anyways so who cares?
Navigating through the biggest deepest economic downturn since the depression, not important??.. Yep he was there. Watching. Good job watching.
Historic climate deal not so important? - What about it? This "deal" is not binding to anyone.
The fact that the world no longer hates us and think we are arrogant, not important? - LOL... You wish. The world hates up with passion and for the good reason - we are arrogant.
Smart Power,... not important? - Not sure what you mean.
Not attacking Iran for Israel's sake not important ?.. - Not allowing Israel to attack Iran is not new stuff, shipping to Iran billions of dollars is new.
Let the space shuttle program die and allowed private industry to enter into the space race which has created an entire new industry against republican wishes.. - Probably making China to be first on Mars in Mask build rockets.
I can go on...

holfresh wrote:

arkrud wrote:

holfresh wrote:

arkrud wrote:New interesting face in the campaign with some inside info:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/have-a-question-for-independent-presidential-candidate-evan-mcmullin-ask-it-now-2016-10-03
This elections is the last cry for current edging political elite.
Time for new generation to kick in.
Geriatric leaders will not get us too far and for sure not out of stagnation we are in.
Time for change is coming and it is inevitable.

I'm always intrigued by the fact that people are so willing to gravitate to unknown entitles with very little information..Obama elite or geriatric?

Obama is the first African American president. The rest is not so important.
Hilary will be the first woman president...
Then as we will not need first Gay president (Canada did it for us) we can concentrate on someone who can make a difference...
Unless we will want first Jewish president... Will be cool...

So +25 million more people with healthcare not so important?..Capturing and killing Osama Bin Laden not so important? Wind down of wars abroad not important? Iran nuclear deal not so important? Cuba? Staying out of Lybia, Syria, not so important?..Saved the auto industry when Republicans were against it, not important.??..Navigating through the biggest deepest economic downturn since the depression, not important??.. Historic climate deal not so important? The fact that the world no longer hates us and think we are arrogant, not important? Smart Power, not important? Not attacking Iran for Israel's sake not important ?.. Let the space shuttle program die and allowed private industry to enter into the space race which has created an entire new industry against republican wishes..I can go on...

Everyone having healthcare is a great idea. The problem is the healthcare system is basically Big Pharma sponsored. It is too overpriced to socialize. Here in Germany it works cause it costs much less for better treatment (with more options - but still not great) - and I'm not pro this or that. They need to make healthcare about healthcare and not about just using drugs to fight diseases and to look at alternative forms of cancer treatment(most notably eating better food and alternative treatments instead of using radiation and deadly chemicals.) Veterinarians have known for years the most cost effective and effective way to treat disease - diet. In the states we let the vegetable oil industry decide that Keys research was valid (low fat diet), which made them more money and cost more lives than I care to calculate. It is a sick care system.

By all accounts, Osama Bin Laden died way before that raid. He was dying and on dialysis before 911. I know, we have all the photo's of his death and burial, oh wait. lol, you can't make this up, but they can. Well, they probably stopped another terror attack from being done from a cave (snicker) as Osama obviously knew how to have our fighters stand down, buildings come crashing down due to fire (or in the case of building 7, just fall), not have the artillery around the Pentagon fire a shot, hold back an investigation for years until the families of the victims pressured the government to do so, etc. That Bin Laden was a genius. At least we were friendly enough to fly his family out when all planes were grounded.

Yeah, 911 was indeed a conspiracy says one of the worlds best investigative journalists. Prepare to laugh.

Lybia - Good job Hillary. We destroyed another country and we all feel much safer. And they have cleaner water now (not, that was destroyed) but at least they still have that gold backed money they were working on. Oh wait, of course we had to put in our FED controlled printing press.

And all the Syrians coming into Europe now are bringing nothing but love to our bombing, I mean Nato partners. We have created a big old mess, apparently by intention as no one can be this stupid.

I know, MSNBC, FOX, CNN, etc. backs what you mentioned but a little research says otherwise.

https://politicalwire.com/2016/10/06/johnson-declines-to-name-north-koreas-leader/