I will say this about Staley -- she gives off the vibe that she is as tough as any guy on earth and does not look like someone who would back down from anyone. Her teams typically play great D and pound teams on the boards.

Knicksfan wrote:Does anyone know anything about her offensive schemes? She definitely can coach, but what is her offensive style?

I do remember being very underwhelmed watching S.C. in the college final 4.

They were a big, tough and athletic female squad but they simply couldn't shoot AT ALL but hard to put that on Staley vs simply a lack of pure scorers.

I do think she used a deep rotation but calling card physical tough defense and crashing boards - some very BIG girls on her squad.

Rookie wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Been posting about hiring a head coach from the women's game the last few years. Knicks broke the color barrier with "Sweetwater" Clifton. Seeing a woman break the "glass" barrier with the Knicks would be great. I hope the FO is interviewing WNBA coaches as well.

I’m cool with it as long as she looks good in a bikini

Better than Thibs in a bikini!

GustavBahler wrote:Been posting about hiring a head coach from the women's game the last few years. Knicks broke the color barrier with "Sweetwater" Clifton. Seeing a woman break the "glass" barrier with the Knicks would be great. I hope the FO is interviewing WNBA coaches as well.

“ Dawn Staley's impressive coaching career at South Carolina includes three NCAA championships in eight years, making her a notable candidate for NBA head coaching positions. The Knicks have expressed interest in Staley as they search for a new head coach, leveraging her relationship with star player Jalen Brunson. Their connection is rooted in Staley's tenure at Temple, where she overlapped with Brunson's family ties, leading to a supportive bond highlighted during the Knicks' playoff run against Staley’s 76ers”

Makes more sense now. Dawn , Rick and Jalen in charge.

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:The point is you want better results. Thibs did great with certain subset of players for 4 years. Might have gotten the best out of them.
COY year one. Playoffs 4 of 5 years.
You can bring a chip coach and say he better, but not if he can't get the best out of this roster FO believes is more talented but not a Thibian Roster.

Can a coach with a lessor resume do better? Not until you get hindsight do you get clarity.

Again, you want better results. You know the game Pano's, no guarantees. Why bother then? Not your money and nobody asked any of what to think it thru or help.

Nalod, don’t think it’s hindsight to say it was a puzzling move.
It’s just using historical and statistical data.
Thibs had the best single season results in 25 years. And as you mentioned, he made the playoffs last 4 of 5. We had one of the weaker benches in the NBA last year statistically.
Feel the FO is the one using futuristic hindsight.
Since statistically, one would think it would focus on improving the depth needed to win a chip.

The hindsight comes in a few years when we can look back. Let's not forget if Mikal was done playing for him that creates an issue.
It's all conceptual. But those closest to the team felt time for a change while (FO) media fills our heads with doubt. On the surface I agree with you and really thought highly of Thibs but I'm trying to make sense of it. You're talking about Thibs resume vs others and "Why bother". The issue is can a young coach with less history take this team further? Thibs has a very accomplished resume and Im not talking about just getting one that has a chip. That **** with Doc Rivers is an example of it not translating forward. Joe Mazzula is the opposite. George Karl 6th all time), Sloan (4th) and Don Nelson (2nd!!!) are top 10 all time with win totals are and never won a chip as coach. If available we'd hold that against them yet we love the potential of a Chris Quinn or Johnny because it's so promising. The Borgerro-Brown-Jenkins are those type but have warts on the resume. But........as I repeat, what's the context of those warts? Is the coach not more seasoned dealing with adversity and perhaps if they did not handle it right prone to repeat it over and over again or do they grow from it? All the guys I mentioned had decades long careers and had to evolve. Thibs to some extent also. Bud has the pedigree and is not even mentioned for any interview. Vogel? Have not read anything since he was made gone. Malone? Other than PhilC doing his Rainman act nothing is rumored there. "he knows the organization". Not really. Is anyone working in the FO since? He left 20 ****ing years ago.

Seems like two discussions.
One is, was it a smart move to let Thibs go. Mentioned why I feel not.
Second is what do we do now.
Agree that it is what it is and one must focus on what options are best NOW.
Still doesn’t mean some can’t be left with the feeling this was Dolanesque. Which is never good.
For me maybe Borgerro is intriguing because of the Pop tree.
But mostly because he may be new and I am not crazy about Malone,Jenkins or Nori. Since I see all as run of the mill offensive coaches without ever overachieving defensively.

Lol, perhaps Dolan was in on the exit interviews as Leon had to demonstrate why he had to pay 30mil to move on?
Not like he the only owner who had to do this. He had to eat 24mil of PhilJax's remainder just after he opted in those last two years. Then eat some crow and give Mills back the job he snatched from him. Meanwhile Isiah was in the attic laughing his ass off

Now if Dolan wanted Thibs gone and Leon did not that would be something to worry about!
I really have nothing but praise for the job Thibs did for his 1st 4 years. The 5th was not easy to watch at times and should have been given another year. But......there was treachery in the ranks and perhaps much we don't know.

Retread coaches rarely excite as much as the fresh faced assistant. None of this really excites me.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/knicks-owner-james-dolans-role-in-tom-thibodeaus-firing-explained-not-a-normal-regular-thing/

"Then, Vinnie Goodwill (Yahoo Sports) comes out with an accurate report about what happens during end-of-season meetings. James Dolan sat in on exit interviews, I can tell you, I have spoken to a number of people from a number of different organizations around the league — an owner sitting in on exit interviews is ... it raised eyebrows. It's not a normal, regular thing. That's not a routine thing. It wasn't something that happened with the Knicks until this time around

Not a fan of CBS sports. I do have a subscription to "The Athletic" and was trying to find the Katz article referenced but could not. Him I trust. I get That Dolan was there, and I get its not typical but then it seems to connect the dots and lay it on him. Could be Leon wanted him there? Im trying to not jump to conclusions.
Seems very odd that Dolan suddenly jumps into the fray and starts dog this kind of **** after years of not?

If true then its back tot the good old days of meddling? Hope not.

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:The point is you want better results. Thibs did great with certain subset of players for 4 years. Might have gotten the best out of them.
COY year one. Playoffs 4 of 5 years.
You can bring a chip coach and say he better, but not if he can't get the best out of this roster FO believes is more talented but not a Thibian Roster.

Can a coach with a lessor resume do better? Not until you get hindsight do you get clarity.

Again, you want better results. You know the game Pano's, no guarantees. Why bother then? Not your money and nobody asked any of what to think it thru or help.

Nalod, don’t think it’s hindsight to say it was a puzzling move.
It’s just using historical and statistical data.
Thibs had the best single season results in 25 years. And as you mentioned, he made the playoffs last 4 of 5. We had one of the weaker benches in the NBA last year statistically.
Feel the FO is the one using futuristic hindsight.
Since statistically, one would think it would focus on improving the depth needed to win a chip.

The hindsight comes in a few years when we can look back. Let's not forget if Mikal was done playing for him that creates an issue.
It's all conceptual. But those closest to the team felt time for a change while (FO) media fills our heads with doubt. On the surface I agree with you and really thought highly of Thibs but I'm trying to make sense of it. You're talking about Thibs resume vs others and "Why bother". The issue is can a young coach with less history take this team further? Thibs has a very accomplished resume and Im not talking about just getting one that has a chip. That **** with Doc Rivers is an example of it not translating forward. Joe Mazzula is the opposite. George Karl 6th all time), Sloan (4th) and Don Nelson (2nd!!!) are top 10 all time with win totals are and never won a chip as coach. If available we'd hold that against them yet we love the potential of a Chris Quinn or Johnny because it's so promising. The Borgerro-Brown-Jenkins are those type but have warts on the resume. But........as I repeat, what's the context of those warts? Is the coach not more seasoned dealing with adversity and perhaps if they did not handle it right prone to repeat it over and over again or do they grow from it? All the guys I mentioned had decades long careers and had to evolve. Thibs to some extent also. Bud has the pedigree and is not even mentioned for any interview. Vogel? Have not read anything since he was made gone. Malone? Other than PhilC doing his Rainman act nothing is rumored there. "he knows the organization". Not really. Is anyone working in the FO since? He left 20 ****ing years ago.

Seems like two discussions.
One is, was it a smart move to let Thibs go. Mentioned why I feel not.
Second is what do we do now.
Agree that it is what it is and one must focus on what options are best NOW.
Still doesn’t mean some can’t be left with the feeling this was Dolanesque. Which is never good.
For me maybe Borgerro is intriguing because of the Pop tree.
But mostly because he may be new and I am not crazy about Malone,Jenkins or Nori. Since I see all as run of the mill offensive coaches without ever overachieving defensively.

Lol, perhaps Dolan was in on the exit interviews as Leon had to demonstrate why he had to pay 30mil to move on?
Not like he the only owner who had to do this. He had to eat 24mil of PhilJax's remainder just after he opted in those last two years. Then eat some crow and give Mills back the job he snatched from him. Meanwhile Isiah was in the attic laughing his ass off

Now if Dolan wanted Thibs gone and Leon did not that would be something to worry about!
I really have nothing but praise for the job Thibs did for his 1st 4 years. The 5th was not easy to watch at times and should have been given another year. But......there was treachery in the ranks and perhaps much we don't know.

Retread coaches rarely excite as much as the fresh faced assistant. None of this really excites me.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/knicks-owner-james-dolans-role-in-tom-thibodeaus-firing-explained-not-a-normal-regular-thing/

"Then, Vinnie Goodwill (Yahoo Sports) comes out with an accurate report about what happens during end-of-season meetings. James Dolan sat in on exit interviews, I can tell you, I have spoken to a number of people from a number of different organizations around the league — an owner sitting in on exit interviews is ... it raised eyebrows. It's not a normal, regular thing. That's not a routine thing. It wasn't something that happened with the Knicks until this time around

Not a fan of CBS sports. I do have a subscription to "The Athletic" and was trying to find the Katz article referenced but could not. Him I trust. I get That Dolan was there, and I get its not typical but then it seems to connect the dots and lay it on him. Could be Leon wanted him there? Im trying to not jump to conclusions.
Seems very odd that Dolan suddenly jumps into the fray and starts dog this kind of **** after years of not?

If true then its back tot the good old days of meddling? Hope not.

There was also an article posted about Leon wanting to do this sooner. We dont really know who thought of Dolan going to the exit interview first.

I believe there are extenuating circumstances when it comes to Dolan's involvement in Thibs firing. Namely wanting to protect his investment(s).

Most of the starting unit led the league in minutes. The lack of adjustments by Thibs in the playoffs alone shouldnt have been enough, and I dont believe it was.

Brunson is a generational talent, its fair for an owner to look beyond this season and ask if Thibs is the best choice going forward.

When Thibs heard about playing some starters too much after last season. Instead of considering a change in strategy, Thibs doubled down.

Dolan, Im sure was pleased with the ECF appearance, but wants to make sure JB's prime isnt cut short from league leading minutes season after season.

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:The point is you want better results. Thibs did great with certain subset of players for 4 years. Might have gotten the best out of them.
COY year one. Playoffs 4 of 5 years.
You can bring a chip coach and say he better, but not if he can't get the best out of this roster FO believes is more talented but not a Thibian Roster.

Can a coach with a lessor resume do better? Not until you get hindsight do you get clarity.

Again, you want better results. You know the game Pano's, no guarantees. Why bother then? Not your money and nobody asked any of what to think it thru or help.

Nalod, don’t think it’s hindsight to say it was a puzzling move.
It’s just using historical and statistical data.
Thibs had the best single season results in 25 years. And as you mentioned, he made the playoffs last 4 of 5. We had one of the weaker benches in the NBA last year statistically.
Feel the FO is the one using futuristic hindsight.
Since statistically, one would think it would focus on improving the depth needed to win a chip.

The hindsight comes in a few years when we can look back. Let's not forget if Mikal was done playing for him that creates an issue.
It's all conceptual. But those closest to the team felt time for a change while (FO) media fills our heads with doubt. On the surface I agree with you and really thought highly of Thibs but I'm trying to make sense of it. You're talking about Thibs resume vs others and "Why bother". The issue is can a young coach with less history take this team further? Thibs has a very accomplished resume and Im not talking about just getting one that has a chip. That **** with Doc Rivers is an example of it not translating forward. Joe Mazzula is the opposite. George Karl 6th all time), Sloan (4th) and Don Nelson (2nd!!!) are top 10 all time with win totals are and never won a chip as coach. If available we'd hold that against them yet we love the potential of a Chris Quinn or Johnny because it's so promising. The Borgerro-Brown-Jenkins are those type but have warts on the resume. But........as I repeat, what's the context of those warts? Is the coach not more seasoned dealing with adversity and perhaps if they did not handle it right prone to repeat it over and over again or do they grow from it? All the guys I mentioned had decades long careers and had to evolve. Thibs to some extent also. Bud has the pedigree and is not even mentioned for any interview. Vogel? Have not read anything since he was made gone. Malone? Other than PhilC doing his Rainman act nothing is rumored there. "he knows the organization". Not really. Is anyone working in the FO since? He left 20 ****ing years ago.

Seems like two discussions.
One is, was it a smart move to let Thibs go. Mentioned why I feel not.
Second is what do we do now.
Agree that it is what it is and one must focus on what options are best NOW.
Still doesn’t mean some can’t be left with the feeling this was Dolanesque. Which is never good.
For me maybe Borgerro is intriguing because of the Pop tree.
But mostly because he may be new and I am not crazy about Malone,Jenkins or Nori. Since I see all as run of the mill offensive coaches without ever overachieving defensively.

Lol, perhaps Dolan was in on the exit interviews as Leon had to demonstrate why he had to pay 30mil to move on?
Not like he the only owner who had to do this. He had to eat 24mil of PhilJax's remainder just after he opted in those last two years. Then eat some crow and give Mills back the job he snatched from him. Meanwhile Isiah was in the attic laughing his ass off

Now if Dolan wanted Thibs gone and Leon did not that would be something to worry about!
I really have nothing but praise for the job Thibs did for his 1st 4 years. The 5th was not easy to watch at times and should have been given another year. But......there was treachery in the ranks and perhaps much we don't know.

Retread coaches rarely excite as much as the fresh faced assistant. None of this really excites me.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/knicks-owner-james-dolans-role-in-tom-thibodeaus-firing-explained-not-a-normal-regular-thing/

"Then, Vinnie Goodwill (Yahoo Sports) comes out with an accurate report about what happens during end-of-season meetings. James Dolan sat in on exit interviews, I can tell you, I have spoken to a number of people from a number of different organizations around the league — an owner sitting in on exit interviews is ... it raised eyebrows. It's not a normal, regular thing. That's not a routine thing. It wasn't something that happened with the Knicks until this time around

Not a fan of CBS sports. I do have a subscription to "The Athletic" and was trying to find the Katz article referenced but could not. Him I trust. I get That Dolan was there, and I get its not typical but then it seems to connect the dots and lay it on him. Could be Leon wanted him there? Im trying to not jump to conclusions.
Seems very odd that Dolan suddenly jumps into the fray and starts dog this kind of **** after years of not?

If true then its back tot the good old days of meddling? Hope not.

There was also an article posted about Leon wanting to do this sooner. We dont really know who thought of Dolan going to the exit interview first.

I believe there are extenuating circumstances when it comes to Dolan's involvement in Thibs firing. Namely wanting to protect his investment(s).

Most of the starting unit led the league in minutes. The lack of adjustments by Thibs in the playoffs alone shouldnt have been enough, and I dont believe it was.

Brunson is a generational talent, its fair for an owner to look beyond this season and ask if Thibs is the best choice going forward.

When Thibs heard about playing some starters too much after last season. Instead of considering a change in strategy, Thibs doubled down.

Dolan, Im sure was pleased with the ECF appearance, but wants to make sure JB's prime isnt cut short from league leading minutes season after season.

There was an article? Why not post it?

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:The point is you want better results. Thibs did great with certain subset of players for 4 years. Might have gotten the best out of them.
COY year one. Playoffs 4 of 5 years.
You can bring a chip coach and say he better, but not if he can't get the best out of this roster FO believes is more talented but not a Thibian Roster.

Can a coach with a lessor resume do better? Not until you get hindsight do you get clarity.

Again, you want better results. You know the game Pano's, no guarantees. Why bother then? Not your money and nobody asked any of what to think it thru or help.

Nalod, don’t think it’s hindsight to say it was a puzzling move.
It’s just using historical and statistical data.
Thibs had the best single season results in 25 years. And as you mentioned, he made the playoffs last 4 of 5. We had one of the weaker benches in the NBA last year statistically.
Feel the FO is the one using futuristic hindsight.
Since statistically, one would think it would focus on improving the depth needed to win a chip.

The hindsight comes in a few years when we can look back. Let's not forget if Mikal was done playing for him that creates an issue.
It's all conceptual. But those closest to the team felt time for a change while (FO) media fills our heads with doubt. On the surface I agree with you and really thought highly of Thibs but I'm trying to make sense of it. You're talking about Thibs resume vs others and "Why bother". The issue is can a young coach with less history take this team further? Thibs has a very accomplished resume and Im not talking about just getting one that has a chip. That **** with Doc Rivers is an example of it not translating forward. Joe Mazzula is the opposite. George Karl 6th all time), Sloan (4th) and Don Nelson (2nd!!!) are top 10 all time with win totals are and never won a chip as coach. If available we'd hold that against them yet we love the potential of a Chris Quinn or Johnny because it's so promising. The Borgerro-Brown-Jenkins are those type but have warts on the resume. But........as I repeat, what's the context of those warts? Is the coach not more seasoned dealing with adversity and perhaps if they did not handle it right prone to repeat it over and over again or do they grow from it? All the guys I mentioned had decades long careers and had to evolve. Thibs to some extent also. Bud has the pedigree and is not even mentioned for any interview. Vogel? Have not read anything since he was made gone. Malone? Other than PhilC doing his Rainman act nothing is rumored there. "he knows the organization". Not really. Is anyone working in the FO since? He left 20 ****ing years ago.

Seems like two discussions.
One is, was it a smart move to let Thibs go. Mentioned why I feel not.
Second is what do we do now.
Agree that it is what it is and one must focus on what options are best NOW.
Still doesn’t mean some can’t be left with the feeling this was Dolanesque. Which is never good.
For me maybe Borgerro is intriguing because of the Pop tree.
But mostly because he may be new and I am not crazy about Malone,Jenkins or Nori. Since I see all as run of the mill offensive coaches without ever overachieving defensively.

Lol, perhaps Dolan was in on the exit interviews as Leon had to demonstrate why he had to pay 30mil to move on?
Not like he the only owner who had to do this. He had to eat 24mil of PhilJax's remainder just after he opted in those last two years. Then eat some crow and give Mills back the job he snatched from him. Meanwhile Isiah was in the attic laughing his ass off

Now if Dolan wanted Thibs gone and Leon did not that would be something to worry about!
I really have nothing but praise for the job Thibs did for his 1st 4 years. The 5th was not easy to watch at times and should have been given another year. But......there was treachery in the ranks and perhaps much we don't know.

Retread coaches rarely excite as much as the fresh faced assistant. None of this really excites me.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/knicks-owner-james-dolans-role-in-tom-thibodeaus-firing-explained-not-a-normal-regular-thing/

"Then, Vinnie Goodwill (Yahoo Sports) comes out with an accurate report about what happens during end-of-season meetings. James Dolan sat in on exit interviews, I can tell you, I have spoken to a number of people from a number of different organizations around the league — an owner sitting in on exit interviews is ... it raised eyebrows. It's not a normal, regular thing. That's not a routine thing. It wasn't something that happened with the Knicks until this time around

Not a fan of CBS sports. I do have a subscription to "The Athletic" and was trying to find the Katz article referenced but could not. Him I trust. I get That Dolan was there, and I get its not typical but then it seems to connect the dots and lay it on him. Could be Leon wanted him there? Im trying to not jump to conclusions.
Seems very odd that Dolan suddenly jumps into the fray and starts dog this kind of **** after years of not?

If true then its back tot the good old days of meddling? Hope not.

There was also an article posted about Leon wanting to do this sooner. We dont really know who thought of Dolan going to the exit interview first.

I believe there are extenuating circumstances when it comes to Dolan's involvement in Thibs firing. Namely wanting to protect his investment(s).

Most of the starting unit led the league in minutes. The lack of adjustments by Thibs in the playoffs alone shouldnt have been enough, and I dont believe it was.

Brunson is a generational talent, its fair for an owner to look beyond this season and ask if Thibs is the best choice going forward.

When Thibs heard about playing some starters too much after last season. Instead of considering a change in strategy, Thibs doubled down.

Dolan, Im sure was pleased with the ECF appearance, but wants to make sure JB's prime isnt cut short from league leading minutes season after season.

There was an article? Why not post it?

It was posted in a thread somewhere. Dont know which one.

Someone asked Ian the question here. Ian's and Katz's reports seem to contradict each other. It has been long rumored that WWW had been over Tom for a while. Who knows?

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/IanBegley/status/1938923898206331003

BigDaddyG wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Nalod wrote:The point is you want better results. Thibs did great with certain subset of players for 4 years. Might have gotten the best out of them.
COY year one. Playoffs 4 of 5 years.
You can bring a chip coach and say he better, but not if he can't get the best out of this roster FO believes is more talented but not a Thibian Roster.

Can a coach with a lessor resume do better? Not until you get hindsight do you get clarity.

Again, you want better results. You know the game Pano's, no guarantees. Why bother then? Not your money and nobody asked any of what to think it thru or help.

Nalod, don’t think it’s hindsight to say it was a puzzling move.
It’s just using historical and statistical data.
Thibs had the best single season results in 25 years. And as you mentioned, he made the playoffs last 4 of 5. We had one of the weaker benches in the NBA last year statistically.
Feel the FO is the one using futuristic hindsight.
Since statistically, one would think it would focus on improving the depth needed to win a chip.

The hindsight comes in a few years when we can look back. Let's not forget if Mikal was done playing for him that creates an issue.
It's all conceptual. But those closest to the team felt time for a change while (FO) media fills our heads with doubt. On the surface I agree with you and really thought highly of Thibs but I'm trying to make sense of it. You're talking about Thibs resume vs others and "Why bother". The issue is can a young coach with less history take this team further? Thibs has a very accomplished resume and Im not talking about just getting one that has a chip. That **** with Doc Rivers is an example of it not translating forward. Joe Mazzula is the opposite. George Karl 6th all time), Sloan (4th) and Don Nelson (2nd!!!) are top 10 all time with win totals are and never won a chip as coach. If available we'd hold that against them yet we love the potential of a Chris Quinn or Johnny because it's so promising. The Borgerro-Brown-Jenkins are those type but have warts on the resume. But........as I repeat, what's the context of those warts? Is the coach not more seasoned dealing with adversity and perhaps if they did not handle it right prone to repeat it over and over again or do they grow from it? All the guys I mentioned had decades long careers and had to evolve. Thibs to some extent also. Bud has the pedigree and is not even mentioned for any interview. Vogel? Have not read anything since he was made gone. Malone? Other than PhilC doing his Rainman act nothing is rumored there. "he knows the organization". Not really. Is anyone working in the FO since? He left 20 ****ing years ago.

Seems like two discussions.
One is, was it a smart move to let Thibs go. Mentioned why I feel not.
Second is what do we do now.
Agree that it is what it is and one must focus on what options are best NOW.
Still doesn’t mean some can’t be left with the feeling this was Dolanesque. Which is never good.
For me maybe Borgerro is intriguing because of the Pop tree.
But mostly because he may be new and I am not crazy about Malone,Jenkins or Nori. Since I see all as run of the mill offensive coaches without ever overachieving defensively.

Lol, perhaps Dolan was in on the exit interviews as Leon had to demonstrate why he had to pay 30mil to move on?
Not like he the only owner who had to do this. He had to eat 24mil of PhilJax's remainder just after he opted in those last two years. Then eat some crow and give Mills back the job he snatched from him. Meanwhile Isiah was in the attic laughing his ass off

Now if Dolan wanted Thibs gone and Leon did not that would be something to worry about!
I really have nothing but praise for the job Thibs did for his 1st 4 years. The 5th was not easy to watch at times and should have been given another year. But......there was treachery in the ranks and perhaps much we don't know.

Retread coaches rarely excite as much as the fresh faced assistant. None of this really excites me.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/knicks-owner-james-dolans-role-in-tom-thibodeaus-firing-explained-not-a-normal-regular-thing/

"Then, Vinnie Goodwill (Yahoo Sports) comes out with an accurate report about what happens during end-of-season meetings. James Dolan sat in on exit interviews, I can tell you, I have spoken to a number of people from a number of different organizations around the league — an owner sitting in on exit interviews is ... it raised eyebrows. It's not a normal, regular thing. That's not a routine thing. It wasn't something that happened with the Knicks until this time around

Not a fan of CBS sports. I do have a subscription to "The Athletic" and was trying to find the Katz article referenced but could not. Him I trust. I get That Dolan was there, and I get its not typical but then it seems to connect the dots and lay it on him. Could be Leon wanted him there? Im trying to not jump to conclusions.
Seems very odd that Dolan suddenly jumps into the fray and starts dog this kind of **** after years of not?

If true then its back tot the good old days of meddling? Hope not.

There was also an article posted about Leon wanting to do this sooner. We dont really know who thought of Dolan going to the exit interview first.

I believe there are extenuating circumstances when it comes to Dolan's involvement in Thibs firing. Namely wanting to protect his investment(s).

Most of the starting unit led the league in minutes. The lack of adjustments by Thibs in the playoffs alone shouldnt have been enough, and I dont believe it was.

Brunson is a generational talent, its fair for an owner to look beyond this season and ask if Thibs is the best choice going forward.

When Thibs heard about playing some starters too much after last season. Instead of considering a change in strategy, Thibs doubled down.

Dolan, Im sure was pleased with the ECF appearance, but wants to make sure JB's prime isnt cut short from league leading minutes season after season.

There was an article? Why not post it?

It was posted in a thread somewhere. Dont know which one.

Someone asked Ian the question here. Ian's and Katz's reports seem to contradict each other. It has been long rumored that WWW had been over Tom for a while. Who knows?

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/IanBegley/status/1938923898206331003

That's it. Hard to tell who was driving this.