martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Knicks need to do their best to add a 5th starter this summer using whatever resources available and keeping the bench of Hart, McBride, and Mitch. I understand the size concerns with mcbride next to Brunson, but we have also seen Mitch and hart not work as starters (with the other 4) and be more impactful off the bench. Knicks needs to find a 5th starter, either via trade or taxpayer MLE to fill that gap, make the starting 5 more complete, and then let mcbride, hart and Mitch come off the bench and blend in with the starters as all of them are great in the change of pace role. We may have to trade a combination of remaining picks (the Washington pick is still valuable since it will likely turn into 2 high second round picks), young players, and pick swaps. I don’t know who that player is, considering his salary can’t be high, but there’s a player out there ready to break out. I was advocating for Toumani Camara early in the year a month before the trade deadline. Too late for him with his breakout, but that is the idea. Front office needs to find that guy.

Or Deni Avdija, loved that guy too.

Don’t think Portland would even trade us Deni for likes of Mikal or OG — the price would be exorbitant as Deni really rising on that young roster.

Love him though - always wanted him.

FrenchKnicks wrote:You are in the middle of the series and you start talking about offseason moves, really ??

It’s always been the way —- too fun not to speculate on anything/everything. Not like we are actually making trades.

martin wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

jaydh wrote:would not be surprised if we run it back and just add better depth

Pretty much this. We have no cap flexibility to make splashy moves. I can’t think of any coaches that are available that would be an upgrade over Thibs.

Gotta get creative to add depth.

This is flat wrong and I don't know why it keeps getting repeated. Like why would you assume that? Do the numbers.

Knicks are not going to be over the second apron. Brock Aller got it under control. We are not in the same tier and limitations as teams like Boston or Cleveland.

Knicks are over first apron, so no MLE, they get the tax payer at $5M. They have some other limitations on what they can do but their hands are not super tied.

Knicks can trade any combo of players and fluff it up with vet min contracts. Done and done, just like last year.

Yosi Goslin is a cap guy who has appeared on KFTV a few times —— last time they were talking to him about potential offseason additions given our very tight cap situation he mentioned a few guys BUT really thought this summer there were going to be quality players available for the vet minimum.

Can’t recall now who he mentioned specifically but would be nice if we could grab 2 decent -rices with vet minimum contracts.

DLeethal wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

DLeethal wrote:Knicks can make a trade for a 20M player with Mitch, Tucker, and Deuce and/or Dadiet/Kolek.

we cant trade 3 or 4 rotation players for 1.

Mitch just turned 27, I think we should be looking at extending him. Maybe 4/80m?

My only point is there is optionality. You can trade for 3 for 2 or 2 for 2. Whatever. Just like we got Precious back in OG trade. Just like Lakers got Max Christie in Luka trade. That kind of stuff always happens in trades.

I think we need to think long and hard about selling high on Mitch. Good chance his value never gets higher than it is now on an expiring deal and great playoff run after a bunch of injuries.

You had me fooled for a bit there but Max Christie went the other way to Mavs.

DLeethal wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

DLeethal wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:hard to really even think of a team that would trade for Mitch, not because he's not good but C is pretty stacked and teams are pretty set and he's not a guy you can rely on to start 70 games.

PHO is one team, TOR might be another. But outside of a Mitch and Mikal/OG for Durant trade, I'm not sure what else is there, and I don't think I do that deal anyway.

Lakers are the clear and obvious team.

yea just not sure we need anything from them so it would have to be a 3 team trade. Also not sure they'd bet on him being healthy full time.

Hachimura and Max Christie is an interesting deal IMO. S&T Finney Smith? Austin Reaves was rumored as a Knicks target within the last few weeks also.

Christie on Mavs

EwingsGlass wrote:Brunson / Wright / Kolek
Bridges / McBride / Shamet
OG / Hart / McCullar
KAT / LaRavia / Dadiet
Robinson / Huk / Nnaji

You might convince me to do the Mitch Robinson for Herb Jones move. Kind of loving on MitchBeast right now. Would love to see a full offseason with these guys putting an offense in place. It’s flawed but my kind of flawed. Tough.

Can we get a full season out of Mitch? It would be great to keep him and perhaps a long extension with reasonable money. This understood you don't get full seasons with him.

nycericanguy wrote:This is a 50+ win team with or without Mitch. As long as he's healthy come playoff time that's really what matters.

His injuries lower his value though, and maybe that helps us retain him $ wise.

If Mitch was good for 70 games a season, he'd probably be a $30m per year guy.

The fear with Mitch are the big injuries. The ones that will hold him out an entire year, end his seasons short or potentially derail his career. If it was simply about dealing with 20-30 missed games per year and keep him healthy for playoffs, kinda like OG issues before this season, then that would be fine.

Alpha1971 wrote:Tari Eason is available. Eligible for a contract extension. Houston may not be able to keep him due to contract ramifications. Eason for Dadiet one wing for another for Houston on a longer term cheap contract. Knicks then can extend him for mle, 6'8" defender off the bench to back up the 3 and 4. That's my target, been for years.

Eason would be a great fit. We need to get bigger and more athletic and he checks both boxes. Potentially, he can move Hart to the 6th man role...