martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

Nalod wrote:Bol Bol? he has played 6 minutes over just 3 games this season.
He is rostered on PHX.
Garuba? He in the Gleague has yet to play an NBA game.
I see you want to prove a point.
Who else you want to "what do we have to lose" ? You look at the G league roster? Thats a good start. Cuz that at least tells you something.

Again your stating that to say those players wouldn't play for the Knicks and help when one of RJ, Randall, or Hart is out or if we need more size due to match ups or foul trouble, more so then Windler, Ryan, or Jeffries does right?? But again I bring up young players that could have been obtained for nothing with no risk. Bol Bol is behind so many players on the Phoenix depth chart but they still took a shot on him. Bol Bol however would be the fourth forward on our roster. Can you name the fourth one on our current roster ? Same for Garuba he would be our fourth forward and able to play more so then Windler, Ryan, or Jeffries. We just saw players from Phoenix who are outside their rotation clean our clocks. Their 10,11,12 men helped defeat our healthy squad on the road Depth is good not bad.

Jericho Sims. Jacob Toppin. No better or worse than Garuba. Or Bol Bol.

Taj Old Man Gibson is warming up and keeping limber with lubes and lubes of Bengay, you know Thibs knows he is a phone call away.

Why do you keep listing Ryan? We all know he is Villanova royalty and there only to help with coat checks and valet parking.

Jericho Simms, lol. Recall how Thibs was talking him up in the preseason, lol. He is not better at the 4 then Bol Bol or Garuba. Now Toppin is getting me optimistic but he could still have been on his current deal while we could have had a vet like JaMychael Green or Bol or Garuba instead of Jeffries or Windler. I am just mentioning these players on vet deals to avoid discussing the slaley cap. There is no choice now but to wait to see what they do. Just hope Randall, Hart, and RJ are healthy. Team is playing well. I'm happy to watch games. Just wish we had more depth Incase of an injury to the front court.

That's an opinion without much weight

The merit is that Simms hasn't been used.

Let us know what you think of the minutes Bol Bol and Garuba have garnered this year. Or last.

I’m especially interested in your thoughts on Garuba, I was big on him and would have loved for the Knicks to snag him earlier this year.

I don't get it... Your aversion to admit the team failed to address the back up forward spot. I am using bottom basement examples only to indicate we could have used the vet min at the very least. No risk to the tax aprons no long term commitments, depth pieces who could play and contribute situationally better then Simms. We have no one behind Josh Hart. Would have preferred they did even more then that but for the sake of making the argument I'm using vet min low risk players. You don't like my examples pick another perhaps I missed. Also just because Garuba or Bol aren't playing elsewhere doesn't mean they wouldn't play here. Predetermined outcomes don't really work in real life. But anyway... Let's just hope the three forwards we have make it all season without any injuries. Knicks are good I enjoy them. But if our Plan A ain't working we could use some more versatility and size at times. A little more depth we would have won 2 -4 more games I think. I want them to win as many games as they can

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

Nalod wrote:Bol Bol? he has played 6 minutes over just 3 games this season.
He is rostered on PHX.
Garuba? He in the Gleague has yet to play an NBA game.
I see you want to prove a point.
Who else you want to "what do we have to lose" ? You look at the G league roster? Thats a good start. Cuz that at least tells you something.

Again your stating that to say those players wouldn't play for the Knicks and help when one of RJ, Randall, or Hart is out or if we need more size due to match ups or foul trouble, more so then Windler, Ryan, or Jeffries does right?? But again I bring up young players that could have been obtained for nothing with no risk. Bol Bol is behind so many players on the Phoenix depth chart but they still took a shot on him. Bol Bol however would be the fourth forward on our roster. Can you name the fourth one on our current roster ? Same for Garuba he would be our fourth forward and able to play more so then Windler, Ryan, or Jeffries. We just saw players from Phoenix who are outside their rotation clean our clocks. Their 10,11,12 men helped defeat our healthy squad on the road Depth is good not bad.

Jericho Sims. Jacob Toppin. No better or worse than Garuba. Or Bol Bol.

Taj Old Man Gibson is warming up and keeping limber with lubes and lubes of Bengay, you know Thibs knows he is a phone call away.

Why do you keep listing Ryan? We all know he is Villanova royalty and there only to help with coat checks and valet parking.

Jericho Simms, lol. Recall how Thibs was talking him up in the preseason, lol. He is not better at the 4 then Bol Bol or Garuba. Now Toppin is getting me optimistic but he could still have been on his current deal while we could have had a vet like JaMychael Green or Bol or Garuba instead of Jeffries or Windler. I am just mentioning these players on vet deals to avoid discussing the slaley cap. There is no choice now but to wait to see what they do. Just hope Randall, Hart, and RJ are healthy. Team is playing well. I'm happy to watch games. Just wish we had more depth Incase of an injury to the front court.

That's an opinion without much weight

The merit is that Simms hasn't been used.

Let us know what you think of the minutes Bol Bol and Garuba have garnered this year. Or last.

I’m especially interested in your thoughts on Garuba, I was big on him and would have loved for the Knicks to snag him earlier this year.

I don't get it... Your aversion to admit the team failed to address the back up forward spot. I am using bottom basement examples only to indicate we could have used the vet min at the very least. No risk to the tax aprons no long term commitments, depth pieces who could play and contribute situationally better then Simms. We have no one behind Josh Hart. Would have preferred they did even more then that but for the sake of making the argument I'm using vet min low risk players. You don't like my examples pick another perhaps I missed. Also just because Garuba or Bol aren't playing elsewhere doesn't mean they wouldn't play here. Predetermined outcomes don't really work in real life. But anyway... Let's just hope the three forwards we have make it all season without any injuries. Knicks are good I enjoy them. But if our Plan A ain't working we could use some more versatility and size at times. A little more depth we would have won 2 -4 more games I think. I want them to win as many games as they can

It’s a good hill to die on and rest in peace

I checked Obi’s stats this year and they are exactly the same except he’s playing more minutes and scoring a few more points. Averaging 24 min and 12pts.

Rookie wrote:So far this is turned out to be a big nothing burger. Nova Corp finishing games strong

I checked Obi;s stats this year and they are exactly the same except he;s playing more minutes and scoring a few more points. Averaging 24 min and 12pts.

Too early to state that.
Randle hasn't missed any games yet.

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I proposed attaching Williams in a DeRozan trade but my proposal had RJ/Fournier going out.

At least in that scenario we are bringing in a legit scorer and Williams would be a young, long, defensive wing with upside / potential.

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

martin wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:

Nalod wrote:Bol Bol? he has played 6 minutes over just 3 games this season.
He is rostered on PHX.
Garuba? He in the Gleague has yet to play an NBA game.
I see you want to prove a point.
Who else you want to "what do we have to lose" ? You look at the G league roster? Thats a good start. Cuz that at least tells you something.

Again your stating that to say those players wouldn't play for the Knicks and help when one of RJ, Randall, or Hart is out or if we need more size due to match ups or foul trouble, more so then Windler, Ryan, or Jeffries does right?? But again I bring up young players that could have been obtained for nothing with no risk. Bol Bol is behind so many players on the Phoenix depth chart but they still took a shot on him. Bol Bol however would be the fourth forward on our roster. Can you name the fourth one on our current roster ? Same for Garuba he would be our fourth forward and able to play more so then Windler, Ryan, or Jeffries. We just saw players from Phoenix who are outside their rotation clean our clocks. Their 10,11,12 men helped defeat our healthy squad on the road Depth is good not bad.

Jericho Sims. Jacob Toppin. No better or worse than Garuba. Or Bol Bol.

Taj Old Man Gibson is warming up and keeping limber with lubes and lubes of Bengay, you know Thibs knows he is a phone call away.

Why do you keep listing Ryan? We all know he is Villanova royalty and there only to help with coat checks and valet parking.

Jericho Simms, lol. Recall how Thibs was talking him up in the preseason, lol. He is not better at the 4 then Bol Bol or Garuba. Now Toppin is getting me optimistic but he could still have been on his current deal while we could have had a vet like JaMychael Green or Bol or Garuba instead of Jeffries or Windler. I am just mentioning these players on vet deals to avoid discussing the slaley cap. There is no choice now but to wait to see what they do. Just hope Randall, Hart, and RJ are healthy. Team is playing well. I'm happy to watch games. Just wish we had more depth Incase of an injury to the front court.

That's an opinion without much weight

The merit is that Simms hasn't been used.

Let us know what you think of the minutes Bol Bol and Garuba have garnered this year. Or last.

I’m especially interested in your thoughts on Garuba, I was big on him and would have loved for the Knicks to snag him earlier this year.

I don't get it... Your aversion to admit the team failed to address the back up forward spot. I am using bottom basement examples only to indicate we could have used the vet min at the very least. No risk to the tax aprons no long term commitments, depth pieces who could play and contribute situationally better then Simms. We have no one behind Josh Hart. Would have preferred they did even more then that but for the sake of making the argument I'm using vet min low risk players. You don't like my examples pick another perhaps I missed. Also just because Garuba or Bol aren't playing elsewhere doesn't mean they wouldn't play here. Predetermined outcomes don't really work in real life. But anyway... Let's just hope the three forwards we have make it all season without any injuries. Knicks are good I enjoy them. But if our Plan A ain't working we could use some more versatility and size at times. A little more depth we would have won 2 -4 more games I think. I want them to win as many games as they can

None of these guys getting (4) minutes over Hart - like or not Thibs addressed the back-up for with J-Hart (his decision).

And also - we all clamored for more small ball the past few years. Now we are getting it and we are all (me too) wanting more size at the 4. I suspect in a pinch the guy we are all trying to find is actually Sims (the emergency 4).

Panos wrote:

Rookie wrote:So far this is turned out to be a big nothing burger. Nova Corp finishing games strong

I checked Obi;s stats this year and they are exactly the same except he;s playing more minutes and scoring a few more points. Averaging 24 min and 12pts.

Too early to state that.
Randle hasn't missed any games yet.

MMMMMM Nothingburger...

I agree, Its also about matchups.

Rookie wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Panos wrote:

Rookie wrote:So far this is turned out to be a big nothing burger. Nova Corp finishing games strong

I checked Obi;s stats this year and they are exactly the same except he;s playing more minutes and scoring a few more points. Averaging 24 min and 12pts.

Too early to state that.
Randle hasn't missed any games yet.

MMMMMM Nothingburger...

I agree, Its also about matchups.

When we make shots from the perimeter we win easily. BOOM! Mind blown. Even if we had a b/u PF and Randle missed time they aren’t going to replace his production. This whole argument is built on a foundation of cry baby BS 😂 waaaaaah, we didn’t sign a back up PF waaaaaah 🤣 how are we going to win the playoffs waaaaaah

You're the one who sounds like they're having a tantrum Rookie.

Looking for a backup PF was based on the fact that we dont have one. That Randle is recovering from ankle surgery. Which I pointed out early on as the cause of his slump.

Recovering from one injury often forces an athlete to compensate, resulting in other injuries. Still a lot of games left. We got outmuscled last season by bigger teams like the Kings. Playoffs are about matchups, we could use another PF for depth, and insurance.

Rookie wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Rookie wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Panos wrote:

Rookie wrote:So far this is turned out to be a big nothing burger. Nova Corp finishing games strong

I checked Obi;s stats this year and they are exactly the same except he;s playing more minutes and scoring a few more points. Averaging 24 min and 12pts.

Too early to state that.
Randle hasn't missed any games yet.

MMMMMM Nothingburger...

I agree, Its also about matchups.

When we make shots from the perimeter we win easily. BOOM! Mind blown. Even if we had a b/u PF and Randle missed time they aren’t going to replace his production. This whole argument is built on a foundation of cry baby BS 😂 waaaaaah, we didn’t sign a back up PF waaaaaah 🤣 how are we going to win the playoffs waaaaaah

You're the one who sounds like they're having a tantrum Rookie.

Looking for a backup PF was based on the fact that we dont have one. That Randle is recovering from ankle surgery. Which I pointed out early on as the cause of his slump.

Recovering from one injury often forces an athlete to compensate, resulting in other injuries. Still a lot of games left. We got outmuscled last season by bigger teams like the Kings. Playoffs are about matchups, we could use another PF for depth, and insurance.

I’m just messing around. Please don’t take that last bit seriously. We have room at the end of the roster if someone comes available and we are weeks away from the first trading milestone Dec 15th. Right now as constructed there hasn’t been a problem. I’d rather have Hart out there than some scrub.

But we have scrubs on the roster but non that play a position of need at the 3 and 4. What Leon Rose did was what a 25 year old with good health does when they choose not to sign up for health insurance. Or what a person who just buys a top of the line Mercedes but chooses to get the lowest level car insurance. It will work if everything goes to plan. But if it don't we don't even have the lowest level auto insurance at the 3 and 4. I don't understand why.

I hope the FO is trying to find a good backup PF. Still a lot of games to go.

Alpha1971 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Randle isnt limping up the court. But during the breaks in the action, Randle is walking gingerly on his ankle. Ankle injuries tend to linger, especially if you play on a consistent basis.

I hope the FO is trying to find a good backup PF. Still a lot of games to go.

I think us fans are more passionate than the front office.