martin wrote:

Chandler wrote:Team is a mess. I think the biggest issue is our starters. We need some killers. Some guys who truly hate to lose

We have guys who like to play who like to win but that’s not the same thing.

Our second unit is fine

I think leader may be a slight variation on killer or maybe one in the same. RJ and Randle aren't that type of person. Too inconsistent and not the right type of personality

Yes but sometimes people anoint the best player as leader. That can be a mistake. You need a true leader. Holds his team accountable and his teammates.

Julius is not that guy. Half the game he loafs. Or puts his head down. Etc. Other half he doesn’t. He does a lot of good things but right now he’s a mess as tight as a drum. I worry he’s a bit of a loser though. Doesn’t find ways to win

Jimbo5 wrote:This team is riddled with inconsistencies, both as a team and individually. The starting 5 are like feast or famine, you don't know what player will you get each game. I hope Cam gets a real shot having consistent playing time. Im hoping even if he has an off night he can stay on playing with his length and defense. The 2nd unit's effectiveness went down when Drose went out. I hope another move or two is coming even if its not major. This current knickS is frustrating to watch.

We only need players who can get to the rim consistently (Payton) and guards who can shoot and play defense (bullock). Take them off and replace them with inconsistent scorers that are weak on defense and can’t break their man down. 🤦‍♂️

blkexec wrote:

Chandler wrote:

martin wrote:

Chandler wrote:Team is a mess. I think the biggest issue is our starters. We need some killers. Some guys who truly hate to lose

We have guys who like to play who like to win but that’s not the same thing.

Our second unit is fine

I think leader may be a slight variation on killer or maybe one in the same. RJ and Randle aren't that type of person. Too inconsistent and not the right type of personality

Yes but sometimes people anoint the best player as leader. That can be a mistake. You need a true leader. Holds his team accountable and his teammates.

Julius is not that guy. Half the game he loafs. Or puts his head down. Etc. Other half he doesn’t. He does a lot of good things but right now he’s a mess as tight as a drum. I worry he’s a bit of a loser though. Doesn’t find ways to win

He’s emotionally weak and unstable. The thumbs down gesture tells it all. When things are going good he fine. As MLK said, a man is measure not in moments of comfort but during your low moments when everything and everybody, including the refs are against you.

We can win with Randle just not as the focal point. We can win with RJ just not as the focal point. We can win with Fournier, just not as the 3rd best player. Right now Rose is the best player on the team. But we can’t rely on him.

Roster is flawed. Play the yoots. Release the deuce…Rokas…sims. Anybody with energy.

Agree w MLK point. It’s the difference between being a winner and loser.

I’m still super high on RJ. He’s young. Needs to get more consistent but he well. We also need him at 2 not 3

I don’t know if I would go so far as to say Julius is weak or unstable but he’s certainly not dealing w expectations and adversity well. And that’s a huge concern.

Put it this way pelicans outscored us by 20 in the third. Lots of reasons why. A loser hangs their head. A winner says if they can do that to us we can do that back to them and let’s beat them by 22.

2-2-1 zone is vulnerable to backdoor pass but you need a pg that can exploit. problem is Kemba looks hurt again and needs another rest. Burks and IQ aren’t point guards. For whatever reason McBride is the new whipping boy of the coaching staff and is exiled

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blkexec wrote:Exactly thibs…the starting unit has players that let their offense dictate their defense. It’s a broken record with the starting unit. That’s the definition of insanity which is why knick fans are all going crazy. NYK wants to be positive but gets picked on. Others are negative saying the yoots aren’t ready, but they rather see the vets crap all over the court. Everybody is going crazy 😜

All blame goes to one guy coach Thibs !!!
If coach Thibs would have kept playing the 2nd unit lineup in our past 25 games the 2nd unit lineup chemistry & effort together would've built a same-page chemistry to beat our last 3 losses.
Not putting our 2nd unit bench lineup on the court the past 25 straight games, because Knicks fans and announcers were saying they preferred watching the excitement of D.Rose 2nd unit bench lineup over the Knicks starters (Randle & Barrett) the first 20 games of the season.
So the coach (Thibs) play the Blame-Game by using Kemba as the scape-goat.

Well, three LOSSES in a row and if this keeps up Feb are a couple weeks away ....
No winning NBA team wants/need RJ Barrett or Kemba in a trade, so ..
Would u do a Fox for Randle trade?
The Kings need a big body, and the Knicks need a young experience PG for D.Rose to mentor into a leader.

How come I was the only one who knew D.Rose was not going to be in the Knicks starter lineup in the 2021-22 season? Could it be the postseason games, and D.Rose never making a fuss to be a starter last season.
Or D.Rose luv coming to work to be apart of the Knicks trio (D.Rose Quickley Burks) backcourt lineup coming off the bench last season to outscore opponents.
Coach Thibs breaking-up the trio-backcourt lineup, by putting Burks in the starter lineup didn't make D.Rose happy.

Jimbo5 wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Jimbo5 wrote:This team is riddled with inconsistencies, both as a team and individually. The starting 5 are like feast or famine, you don't know what player will you get each game. I hope Cam gets a real shot having consistent playing time. Im hoping even if he has an off night he can stay on playing with his length and defense. The 2nd unit's effectiveness went down when Drose went out. I hope another move or two is coming even if its not major. This current knickS is frustrating to watch.

We only need players who can get to the rim consistently (Payton) and guards who can shoot and play defense (bullock). Take them off and replace them with inconsistent scorers that are weak on defense and can’t break their man down. 🤦‍♂️

Can the Bullock replacement be Reddish and the Payton replacement be Brunson? Just like Payton, Brunson's 3 pt shooting is not good and i think team defense wont improve with Brunson.im still anxiously waiting for the knicks turn around for the season.

Not quite but u are on to something.

Bullock had the ball in his hands for .2 seconds. We used to tease him because he wouldn’t dribble. Reddish is known for over dribbling at times and doing too much which makes him turnover prone. Reddish thinks he’s a superstar which is fine. Bullock knows he’s not a superstar and plays his roll.

I love Brunson and he can definitely impact this team but in a different way from Payton. Payton was a long and tall above average defender. That’s been his scouting report since college. That’s not Brunson. Brunson can be a liability on defense because he’s only 6ft. But he brings energy and gets in the paint. Rose is close but still not the defender like Payton. To me the closest we have to a defensive PG on the roster to Payton’s level is deuce. But he’s also small and struggles to get to the rim. But he’s a football player turned to basketball. So he has toughness to impact on defense. But will mostly stay on the perimeter looking for his shot. In transition he’s similar to Payton, as far as putting pressure on the defense.

What did everything think of Mitch?