MS wrote:I’m still confused.

Julius was mediocre at best year one, spectacular year two (worst playoffs of any starter) year three the team is under .500 at home and he’s shooting 41% and playing like the guy on year 1.

He gets the big contract isn’t performing. The fans don’t like the effort. He says shut the **** up.

Has two mediocre games following.

Can he handle pressure?

He said he wanted to be here, but i think he's in "HIS FEELINGS at this point

knicks1248 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:I’ve been to many Knicks games both home and away. I’ve only booed them once in 2005 when Marbury and Cury got blown out at home by the nets

Most Knicks fans don’t boo. The ones that do are either drunk and/or are Wall St douchebags paying $2,000 a ticket

BS, the teams gets booed when they struggle and are not playing hard

How do you determine if someone is playing hard or not?

- In Baseball NY Fans tend to boo if a guy tends to strike out several times in key moments - does that mean the player is not playing hard or just that the pitcher was better?

- In Football NY Fans tend to boo if a QB throws a key interception or is sacked multiple times for losses or if the play calling does not "go for it" in key situations such as on 4th down and a few yards - are the players not playing hard?

- In Basketball NY Fans tend boo when a player misses a number of shots or has bad turnovers and the team falls behind by a significant scoring gap. Does this really have anything to do with how hard a player is playing?

I tend to believe that fans who boo are (in general) either living/reacting solely in the moment for their own gratification or just not that knowledgeable about the up and down nature of sports performance/competition.

foosballnick wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:I’ve been to many Knicks games both home and away. I’ve only booed them once in 2005 when Marbury and Cury got blown out at home by the nets

Most Knicks fans don’t boo. The ones that do are either drunk and/or are Wall St douchebags paying $2,000 a ticket

BS, the teams gets booed when they struggle and are not playing hard

How do you determine if someone is playing hard or not?

- In Baseball NY Fans tend to boo if a guy tends to strike out several times in key moments - does that mean the player is not playing hard or just that the pitcher was better?

- In Football NY Fans tend to boo if a QB throws a key interception or is sacked multiple times for losses or if the play calling does not "go for it" in key situations such as on 4th down and a few yards - are the players not playing hard?

- In Basketball NY Fans tend boo when a player misses a number of shots or has bad turnovers and the team falls behind by a significant scoring gap. Does this really have anything to do with how hard a player is playing?

I tend to believe that fans who boo are (in general) either living/reacting solely in the moment for their own gratification or just not that knowledgeable about the up and down nature of sports performance/competition.

I’m not a boo guy but isn’t booing a sign of dissatisfaction of a result?
Let’s say fan A has spent 85$ a seat for his tix( brought his two kids) food transportation etc
and he’s done This for years— a loyal fan who has spent his own hard money time and effort to enjoy his team. And now let’s factor in a team like the Knicks — who over a Kong multi year period of failure has a moment of momentary success( like last year) see a guy that may be a franchise player with other possible top guys. He comes into the season thinking well my time has paid off. Now I can enjoy basketball like some other fans do BUT it simply does not materialize. We lose a series of home games to bad teams by bigger margins. The guy who we were counting on has unfortunately regressed— so we hear some boos for dissatisfaction. Is this abnormal or wrong? It’s easy for a player or coach making multi millions to say @ hey wtf” are you barking at chump? He’s going back to his mansion and the guy and his kids have to fight the traffic in the dead of cold nights to make a train to go home after watching the 5 th poor result in a row.

Players and coaches who are on the other side of the fence and really they could personally care less if you and your kids had a good time or not. And that’s ok but don’t talk sht about the fan on the other side. You get paid a sht load of Monet to be professional about your actions.

BRIGGS wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:I’ve been to many Knicks games both home and away. I’ve only booed them once in 2005 when Marbury and Cury got blown out at home by the nets

Most Knicks fans don’t boo. The ones that do are either drunk and/or are Wall St douchebags paying $2,000 a ticket

BS, the teams gets booed when they struggle and are not playing hard

How do you determine if someone is playing hard or not?

- In Baseball NY Fans tend to boo if a guy tends to strike out several times in key moments - does that mean the player is not playing hard or just that the pitcher was better?

- In Football NY Fans tend to boo if a QB throws a key interception or is sacked multiple times for losses or if the play calling does not "go for it" in key situations such as on 4th down and a few yards - are the players not playing hard?

- In Basketball NY Fans tend boo when a player misses a number of shots or has bad turnovers and the team falls behind by a significant scoring gap. Does this really have anything to do with how hard a player is playing?

I tend to believe that fans who boo are (in general) either living/reacting solely in the moment for their own gratification or just not that knowledgeable about the up and down nature of sports performance/competition.

I’m not a boo guy but isn’t booing a sign of dissatisfaction of a result?
Let’s say fan A has spent 85$ a seat for his tix( brought his two kids) food transportation etc
and he’s done This for years— a loyal fan who has spent his own hard money time and effort to enjoy his team. And now let’s factor in a team like the Knicks — who over a Kong multi year period of failure has a moment of momentary success( like last year) see a guy that may be a franchise player with other possible top guys. He comes into the season thinking well my time has paid off. Now I can enjoy basketball like some other fans do BUT it simply does not materialize. We lose a series of home games to bad teams by bigger margins. The guy who we were counting on has unfortunately regressed— so we hear some boos for dissatisfaction. Is this abnormal or wrong? It’s easy for a player or coach making multi millions to say @ hey wtf” are you barking at chump? He’s going back to his mansion and the guy and his kids have to fight the traffic in the dead of cold nights to make a train to go home after watching the 5 th poor result in a row.

Players and coaches who are on the other side of the fence and really they could personally care less if you and your kids had a good time or not. And that’s ok but don’t talk sht about the fan on the other side. You get paid a sht load of Monet to be professional about your actions.

I understand your point, but fans are booing regardless of if players like Randle give them the thumbs down or finger for it.

BRIGGS wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:I’ve been to many Knicks games both home and away. I’ve only booed them once in 2005 when Marbury and Cury got blown out at home by the nets

Most Knicks fans don’t boo. The ones that do are either drunk and/or are Wall St douchebags paying $2,000 a ticket

BS, the teams gets booed when they struggle and are not playing hard

How do you determine if someone is playing hard or not?

- In Baseball NY Fans tend to boo if a guy tends to strike out several times in key moments - does that mean the player is not playing hard or just that the pitcher was better?

- In Football NY Fans tend to boo if a QB throws a key interception or is sacked multiple times for losses or if the play calling does not "go for it" in key situations such as on 4th down and a few yards - are the players not playing hard?

- In Basketball NY Fans tend boo when a player misses a number of shots or has bad turnovers and the team falls behind by a significant scoring gap. Does this really have anything to do with how hard a player is playing?

I tend to believe that fans who boo are (in general) either living/reacting solely in the moment for their own gratification or just not that knowledgeable about the up and down nature of sports performance/competition.

I’m not a boo guy but isn’t booing a sign of dissatisfaction of a result?
Let’s say fan A has spent 85$ a seat for his tix( brought his two kids) food transportation etc
and he’s done This for years— a loyal fan who has spent his own hard money time and effort to enjoy his team. And now let’s factor in a team like the Knicks — who over a Kong multi year period of failure has a moment of momentary success( like last year) see a guy that may be a franchise player with other possible top guys. He comes into the season thinking well my time has paid off. Now I can enjoy basketball like some other fans do BUT it simply does not materialize. We lose a series of home games to bad teams by bigger margins. The guy who we were counting on has unfortunately regressed— so we hear some boos for dissatisfaction. Is this abnormal or wrong? It’s easy for a player or coach making multi millions to say @ hey wtf” are you barking at chump? He’s going back to his mansion and the guy and his kids have to fight the traffic in the dead of cold nights to make a train to go home after watching the 5 th poor result in a row.

Players and coaches who are on the other side of the fence and really they could personally care less if you and your kids had a good time or not. And that’s ok but don’t talk sht about the fan on the other side. You get paid a sht load of Monet to be professional about your actions.

This is exactly what the problem is. Fans that are unhappy with themselves, for the many reasons you just mentioned, think they are DUE something. Most of the hate comes from jealousy. Think that If your life sucks and the $85 bucks a seat just kept you from eating, then maybe you have the problem not the Pros. Sure booing is okay, but some of the kind of nasty stuff said by fans should be met with a punch in the face.

When talking about fans, the majority are selfish ****s. They root for the team so that their hat and t-shirt somehow turns into a badge of honor. Or for bragging rights with their buddies who have alternative fandom with some other team. They could not give a **** about a player. Have always said if I was a player today, I would never leave money on the table for these idiots. How short a memory fans have. Randle gave up money to be here. First since Melo who can actually play and wants to be here and fans boo him. Great way to get the most out of him. Short memory indeed. As is the one about having a career year just under a year ago. Fuck those fans. They deserve to have Trae come in and stomp on their balls.

I root for Randle. All the Knicks. Know he will turn it around. When he does all these fans will get right back on the bandwagon or hope he breaks a leg. That is the scumbags that dare call themselves fans.

Look at these terrible takes:

1. When talking about fans, the majority are selfish ****s, are unhappy with themselves

This is one of the worst ever takes I've read on this fourm or any other. Just spouting nonsense with nothing to back it up.
Hey I can do that too. The majority of Julius Randle fans can't identify poor play when they see it because of some innate character flaw...

2. Fuck those fans. They deserve to have Trae come in and stomp on their balls.

Are you serious? We deserve to lose to Atlanta because some fans boo? What about everyone else??

Dude you sound unhappy. If watching the team makes you say the "fans should be met with a punch in the face." maybe don't watch anymore.

HofstraBBall wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:I’ve been to many Knicks games both home and away. I’ve only booed them once in 2005 when Marbury and Cury got blown out at home by the nets

Most Knicks fans don’t boo. The ones that do are either drunk and/or are Wall St douchebags paying $2,000 a ticket

BS, the teams gets booed when they struggle and are not playing hard

How do you determine if someone is playing hard or not?

- In Baseball NY Fans tend to boo if a guy tends to strike out several times in key moments - does that mean the player is not playing hard or just that the pitcher was better?

- In Football NY Fans tend to boo if a QB throws a key interception or is sacked multiple times for losses or if the play calling does not "go for it" in key situations such as on 4th down and a few yards - are the players not playing hard?

- In Basketball NY Fans tend boo when a player misses a number of shots or has bad turnovers and the team falls behind by a significant scoring gap. Does this really have anything to do with how hard a player is playing?

I tend to believe that fans who boo are (in general) either living/reacting solely in the moment for their own gratification or just not that knowledgeable about the up and down nature of sports performance/competition.

I’m not a boo guy but isn’t booing a sign of dissatisfaction of a result?
Let’s say fan A has spent 85$ a seat for his tix( brought his two kids) food transportation etc
and he’s done This for years— a loyal fan who has spent his own hard money time and effort to enjoy his team. And now let’s factor in a team like the Knicks — who over a Kong multi year period of failure has a moment of momentary success( like last year) see a guy that may be a franchise player with other possible top guys. He comes into the season thinking well my time has paid off. Now I can enjoy basketball like some other fans do BUT it simply does not materialize. We lose a series of home games to bad teams by bigger margins. The guy who we were counting on has unfortunately regressed— so we hear some boos for dissatisfaction. Is this abnormal or wrong? It’s easy for a player or coach making multi millions to say @ hey wtf” are you barking at chump? He’s going back to his mansion and the guy and his kids have to fight the traffic in the dead of cold nights to make a train to go home after watching the 5 th poor result in a row.

Players and coaches who are on the other side of the fence and really they could personally care less if you and your kids had a good time or not. And that’s ok but don’t talk sht about the fan on the other side. You get paid a sht load of Monet to be professional about your actions.

This is exactly what the problem is. Fans that are unhappy with themselves, for the many reasons you just mentioned, think they are DUE something. Most of the hate comes from jealousy. Think that If your life sucks and the $85 bucks a seat just kept you from eating, then maybe you have the problem not the Pros. Sure booing is okay, but some of the kind of nasty stuff said by fans should be met with a punch in the face.

When talking about fans, the majority are selfish ****s. They root for the team so that their hat and t-shirt somehow turns into a badge of honor. Or for bragging rights with their buddies who have alternative fandom with some other team. They could not give a **** about a player. Have always said if I was a player today, I would never leave money on the table for these idiots. How short a memory fans have. Randle gave up money to be here. First since Melo who can actually play and wants to be here and fans boo him. Great way to get the most out of him. Short memory indeed. As is the one about having a career year just under a year ago. Fuck those fans. They deserve to have Trae come in and stomp on their balls.

I root for Randle. All the Knicks. Know he will turn it around. When he does all these fans will get right back on the bandwagon or hope he breaks a leg. That is the scumbags that dare call themselves fans.

Horrible horrible take.

BRIGGS wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:I’ve been to many Knicks games both home and away. I’ve only booed them once in 2005 when Marbury and Cury got blown out at home by the nets

Most Knicks fans don’t boo. The ones that do are either drunk and/or are Wall St douchebags paying $2,000 a ticket

BS, the teams gets booed when they struggle and are not playing hard

How do you determine if someone is playing hard or not?

- In Baseball NY Fans tend to boo if a guy tends to strike out several times in key moments - does that mean the player is not playing hard or just that the pitcher was better?

- In Football NY Fans tend to boo if a QB throws a key interception or is sacked multiple times for losses or if the play calling does not "go for it" in key situations such as on 4th down and a few yards - are the players not playing hard?

- In Basketball NY Fans tend boo when a player misses a number of shots or has bad turnovers and the team falls behind by a significant scoring gap. Does this really have anything to do with how hard a player is playing?

I tend to believe that fans who boo are (in general) either living/reacting solely in the moment for their own gratification or just not that knowledgeable about the up and down nature of sports performance/competition.

I’m not a boo guy but isn’t booing a sign of dissatisfaction of a result?
Let’s say fan A has spent 85$ a seat for his tix( brought his two kids) food transportation etc
and he’s done This for years— a loyal fan who has spent his own hard money time and effort to enjoy his team. And now let’s factor in a team like the Knicks — who over a Kong multi year period of failure has a moment of momentary success( like last year) see a guy that may be a franchise player with other possible top guys. He comes into the season thinking well my time has paid off. Now I can enjoy basketball like some other fans do BUT it simply does not materialize. We lose a series of home games to bad teams by bigger margins. The guy who we were counting on has unfortunately regressed— so we hear some boos for dissatisfaction. Is this abnormal or wrong? It’s easy for a player or coach making multi millions to say @ hey wtf” are you barking at chump? He’s going back to his mansion and the guy and his kids have to fight the traffic in the dead of cold nights to make a train to go home after watching the 5 th poor result in a row.

Players and coaches who are on the other side of the fence and really they could personally care less if you and your kids had a good time or not. And that’s ok but don’t talk sht about the fan on the other side. You get paid a sht load of Monet to be professional about your actions.

This is exactly what the problem is. Fans that are unhappy with themselves, for the many reasons you just mentioned, think they are DUE something. Most of the hate comes from jealousy. Think that If your life sucks and the $85 bucks a seat just kept you from eating, then maybe you have the problem not the Pros. Sure booing is okay, but some of the kind of nasty stuff said by fans should be met with a punch in the face.

When talking about fans, the majority are selfish ****s. They root for the team so that their hat and t-shirt somehow turns into a badge of honor. Or for bragging rights with their buddies who have alternative fandom with some other team. They could not give a **** about a player. Have always said if I was a player today, I would never leave money on the table for these idiots. How short a memory fans have. Randle gave up money to be here. First since Melo who can actually play and wants to be here and fans boo him. Great way to get the most out of him. Short memory indeed. As is the one about having a career year just under a year ago. Fuck those fans. They deserve to have Trae come in and stomp on their balls.

I root for Randle. All the Knicks. Know he will turn it around. When he does all these fans will get right back on the bandwagon or hope he breaks a leg. That is the scumbags that dare call themselves fans.

Horrible horrible take.

True. The fans acting like garbage mean well and deserve to yell what ever they want. Right? After all they did pay that $85 bucks. Btw, when was the last time you were at a game?

Sorry man. I played at a high level and always hated the short fat guy on the sidelines thinking he can say anything he wants. Which was usually something stupid. Along with some hate due to the fact that the best he ever did was eat donuts and played one time in summer camp.