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TPercy wrote:Barrett, Randle and Mitch need to be lined up and flogged. Love them but they need to pay for their stupidity.
Poor choice of words..

Yet it’s the other 2 starters that are the problem. Payton and Bullock are the worst starting back court in the league by a mile.

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fitzfarm wrote:We shouldn’t have lost this game... to bad that starting 5 got us down by 12 in the third ...

Worst starting backcourt in the league. Changes have to be coming. I fully expect quickley and Burks to be the starting backcourt by end of the month.

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Someone needs to pressure thibs to start quick . Hopeful post game interview... someone’s got to say it, you have the worst starting backcourt in the league are you going to start quick

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1/15/2021 10:02 PM

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Knixkik wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
TPercy wrote:Barrett, Randle and Mitch need to be lined up and flogged. Love them but they need to pay for their stupidity.
Poor choice of words..
Yet it’s the other 2 starters that are the problem. Payton and Bullock are the worst starting back court in the league by a mile.

Payton's problem is that he's being relied on too much. Hopefully Burks coming bsck will help in that dept. He can fill in as PG. Agree about Bullock. Going back to last season, not nearly enough offense to justify the minutes.

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1/15/2021 10:18 PM

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GustavBahler wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
TPercy wrote:Barrett, Randle and Mitch need to be lined up and flogged. Love them but they need to pay for their stupidity.
Poor choice of words..
Yet it’s the other 2 starters that are the problem. Payton and Bullock are the worst starting back court in the league by a mile.
Payton's problem is that he's being relied on too much. Hopefully Burks coming bsck will help in that dept. He can fill in as PG. Agree about Bullock. Going back to last season, not nearly enough offense to justify the minutes.

Why do you think Payton is being relied on too much? He has turned into a selfish player this year. He pounds the air out of the rock then puts his head, gets into the paint and never kicks it out to open teammates or drops it off to Mitch on the baseline.

His assist numbers are down, he can't shoot the 3 or freethrows. So, I guess relying on him to be an actual pg is too much....

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1/15/2021 10:32 PM

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Uptown wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
TPercy wrote:Barrett, Randle and Mitch need to be lined up and flogged. Love them but they need to pay for their stupidity.
Poor choice of words..
Yet it’s the other 2 starters that are the problem. Payton and Bullock are the worst starting back court in the league by a mile.
Payton's problem is that he's being relied on too much. Hopefully Burks coming bsck will help in that dept. He can fill in as PG. Agree about Bullock. Going back to last season, not nearly enough offense to justify the minutes.
Why do you think Payton is being relied on too much? He has turned into a selfish player this year. He pounds the air out of the rock then puts his head, gets into the paint and never kicks it out to open teammates or drops it off to Mitch on the baseline.
His assist numbers are down, he can't shoot the 3 or freethrows. So, I guess relying on him to be an actual pg is too much....

Wouldnt call Payton selfish, we have few starters who can get to the rim. Dont mind him starting for now. Believe Thibs is doing a good job of managing Quickley's minutes. We have plenty of PGs on tap. Thibs went deep in the bench. Needs to go deeper.

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1/15/2021 10:40 PM

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While Payton is a convenient target, our problems go far deeper than him. Whether or not we can right this ship is becoming increasingly doubtful at this point. (Being lit up in crunch time by Dotson--seriously?)

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1/15/2021 10:51 PM

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30mins, 4pts, 2 assist, 1 reb, 0/2 from 3pt.

The knicks needed a defensive boost for this game so Thibs gave Bullock 30mins! I do hope when Frank gets healthy Thibs can give that 30mins to Frank. Im confident Frank can match and even surpass that statline. This team needs a lockdown stopper to limit the opposing team's 1,2 or 3. Their defense have regressed considerably, give frank a chance to be part of the rotation, be part of this organization's future. He can be a valiable role player similar to Tony Allen.

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DSJr supposedly available and it's like Thibs doesn't even wanna know he is on bench lol

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I like this one:

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1/16/2021 12:17 AM LAST EDITED: 1/16/2021 12:18 AM

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This team needs to make trades, and Leon needs to tell Thibs stop playing Randle near 40 minutes a game

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martin wrote:DSJr supposedly available and it's like Thibs doesn't even wanna know he is on bench lol

This is the unforgivable sin of the off-season.

What in God's name is DSJ doing here? That roster spot could be occupied by any number of second round pure shooters or even first round pure shooters had we traded for one.

Its as if the ghost of Fizdale is visiting the Knicks.

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WP76 wrote:While Payton is a convenient target, our problems go far deeper than him. Whether or not we can right this ship is becoming increasingly doubtful at this point. (Being lit up in crunch time by Dotson--seriously?)

Look, Payton is the easiest problem to fix. Bench him until he can be traded. End of experiment.

You have Quickly, Rivers, Barrett, DSJ, Pinson, and Harper who can't be worse until Frankie is healthy. And, quite honestly, if we have to move Barrett now to get better, just do it.

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martin wrote:I like this one:

It’s alive!

The tank!!

It was a good day for the tank: Randle keeps his trade value, Barrett improves, Quick shows his value, Obi pre-heating, and Dallas also lost.

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