BigDaddyG wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Keep collecting picks for a future blockbuster trade

I know I should be happy, but I see OKC's war chest and keep thinking to myself that we need more!

That chest has been building for some time. Its a long process that began with drafting players who became stars. ITs also important we develop players for trade. That can be picks also.

consider Jimmy Butler. Clearly key to Miami, which already had young talent, but not so much for Philly or Minny

Yes, who wouldn't want a Giannis, or Lebron but that is not a strategy. If you want a strategy consider Denver, or GSW (pre-Durant); they had a philosophy and identity and built great teams without super high draft picks. Quality players who complement one another

Sam Presti (who gets a lot of love) picked Durant Harden Westbrook (2-3-4) IIRC. No championships. Not clear whether they even speak to each other much. Everyone needed the ball

Jimbo5 wrote:With what happened with Hayward, im not that confident this front office can lure a top free agent, well atleast not yet.if they deemed that the rebuild is ready to move to acquiring superstars. I think to start the ball rolling the team needs to trade for a star, if the target is an expiring contract the front office might have to bite the bullet and cough up substantial assets coz at this point im not confident with our chances in free agency. But once the first star is in the bag and the team starts racking up the wins i think the knick's free agency luck will change. Convincing the first star to come here will be very difficult.

What happened with Hayward that you think was a mistake?

Jimbo5 wrote:With what happened with Hayward, im not that confident this front office can lure a top free agent, well atleast not yet.if they deemed that the rebuild is ready to move to acquiring superstars. I think to start the ball rolling the team needs to trade for a star, if the target is an expiring contract the front office might have to bite the bullet and cough up substantial assets coz at this point im not confident with our chances in free agency. But once the first star is in the bag and the team starts racking up the wins i think the knick's free agency luck will change. Convincing the first star to come here will be very difficult.

To start the ball rolling, the team needs to nurture a star from within, and then trade for and sign stars willing to play with that star. It does not work the other way around. LeBron came to play with Wade, Durant came to play with Steph/Klay, Durant and Irving came to play with a bunch of overachievers who were developed from within and got to the playoffs by themselves.

I think our FO is smart in not overpaying to get marginal stars in. That is a road to perrenial mediocrity that is very difficult to get out of. I would rather see us continue being a crap club for a couple of more years than end up like a Portland or a Charlotte, never good enough to win it all, but not bad enough to be able to improve through the draft.

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BigDaddyG wrote:Let the conspiracy theories commence!

The league is all about relationships. The Lakers top 3 players are Kutch affiliated. KD and Kyrie is in Bk because of their relationship. If you are not plugged in you may get left behind. Knicks are officially plugged in. This may turn out to be the best hire Dolan has made.

FYI, If we mss out on Cade, Green is next in line. Explosive athlete. Imagine the show that Green and Obi can put on under the low ceiling of MSG?

ESOMKnicks wrote:

Jimbo5 wrote:With what happened with Hayward, im not that confident this front office can lure a top free agent, well atleast not yet.if they deemed that the rebuild is ready to move to acquiring superstars. I think to start the ball rolling the team needs to trade for a star, if the target is an expiring contract the front office might have to bite the bullet and cough up substantial assets coz at this point im not confident with our chances in free agency. But once the first star is in the bag and the team starts racking up the wins i think the knick's free agency luck will change. Convincing the first star to come here will be very difficult.

To start the ball rolling, the team needs to nurture a star from within, and then trade for and sign stars willing to play with that star. It does not work the other way around. LeBron came to play with Wade, Durant came to play with Steph/Klay, Durant and Irving came to play with a bunch of overachievers who were developed from within and got to the playoffs by themselves.

I think our FO is smart in not overpaying to get marginal stars in. That is a road to perrenial mediocrity that is very difficult to get out of. I would rather see us continue being a crap club for a couple of more years than end up like a Portland or a Charlotte, never good enough to win it all, but not bad enough to be able to improve through the draft.

I dont thinks the knicks are ready to acquire superstars just yet. I agree with you that they should nurture the development of the young players first. Showing the rest of the NBA that the Knicks can function as a normal NBA team will only improve their desirability among other players and superstars, thats why i was all for them not going crazy with the Hayward situation. Showing that the team can grow and nurture organically like what Denver did over the last few years will give the knicks a better chance to entice superstars but when they are ready and they did everything right and no one bites, trading for a superstar thet will certainly cost the knicks capital will be the next option.

houston20 wrote:The knicks have to spend at least 8 million dollars of the remaining 18 million dollars otherwise there is a penalty. I don't think james dolan is going to pay penalty this season where there will be no fans this year in the garden for both rangers and knicks.

They should let us pay off Noah. Don't get why we just can't eat it all if we have cap space