DSJR left the Mavs in the middle of the season because he was unhappy with his role. A second year player that hadn’t accomplished anything.

It’s the same ****. Jerome James, Eddy Curry, players are who they are.

Again if you’re going to make a move you could have given away Hardaway for free to multiple teams. Knicks always trying to control the narrative. They released a statement over a false report they offered Richard Jefferson a contract.

Let’s believe KP over the organization that throws players and fans out of the arena. You trust Steve Mills? Ron Baker anyone?

You can call a players bluff. Melo enjoy the Nets, KP have fun in Europe.

The Cavs panicked with Kyrie. It’s always better to wait, rebuild and reevaluate instead of making panicked moves.

MS wrote:Knicks never do their homework.

DSJR left the Mavs in the middle of the season because he was unhappy with his role. A second year player that hadn’t accomplished anything.

It’s the same ****. Jerome James, Eddy Curry, players are who they are.

Again if you’re going to make a move you could have given away Hardaway for free to multiple teams. Knicks always trying to control the narrative. They released a statement over a false report they offered Richard Jefferson a contract.

Let’s believe KP over the organization that throws players and fans out of the arena. You trust Steve Mills? Ron Baker anyone?

You can call a players bluff. Melo enjoy the Nets, KP have fun in Europe.

The Cavs panicked with Kyrie. It’s always better to wait, rebuild and reevaluate instead of making panicked moves.

Wasn't he threatening to tell FA's not to come here if he wasn't traded? Also remember there was the. the fight and the rape allegation in the offseason, so that would have been an absolute nightmare for all parties concerned under the NY spotlight

knicks1248 wrote:.

smackeddog wrote:

MS wrote:Knicks never do their homework.

DSJR left the Mavs in the middle of the season because he was unhappy with his role. A second year player that hadn’t accomplished anything.

It’s the same ****. Jerome James, Eddy Curry, players are who they are.

Again if you’re going to make a move you could have given away Hardaway for free to multiple teams. Knicks always trying to control the narrative. They released a statement over a false report they offered Richard Jefferson a contract.

Let’s believe KP over the organization that throws players and fans out of the arena. You trust Steve Mills? Ron Baker anyone?

You can call a players bluff. Melo enjoy the Nets, KP have fun in Europe.

The Cavs panicked with Kyrie. It’s always better to wait, rebuild and reevaluate instead of making panicked moves.

Wasn't he threatening to tell FA's not to come here if he wasn't traded? Also remember there was the. the fight and the rape allegation in the offseason, so that would have been an absolute nightmare for all parties concerned under the NY spotlight

You really think KP can influence players..cmon dude..rape allegations and bar fights didn't even cause Cuban to flinch.

Mills, Perry and their advisors fcked up, it that simple...KP and his brother didn't hold any cards, had no leverage, and never plan to play that season, so WTF was the rush.

They could have waited until draft night and moved up for Ja

You offer a team a player(all star) that will turn them into a contender for yrs to come, in exchange for a player they wanted to get rid of, and their late round pick that has a high probability to be a role player or project.

Who's the fool in that scenario?

If you're trying to sign free agents and your main franchise player is telling them not to come and they're trying to force their way out of there- good luck! Didn't matter in the end though. And yes, Cuban wouldn't flinch about allegations because it's a relatively small media presence in Dallas (see the allegations vs the mass org), in NY it would be a lot worse. Essentially we'd of been stuck with a KP who was re-habbing in Spain, demanding a trade, telling FA's not to come here and battling media regarding his brawl and the allegations against him. I get why they traded him then, and it would have been fine if KD and whoever was guaranteed to come here, but it turns out they weren't so they ended up getting a lot less back than maybe they could have if they knew no FA's were coming & so didn't need the cap space.

At the end of the day, I don't actually care anymore!

Gudris wrote:Come on guys just relax and enjoy beautiful playoff basketball :)

Everybody is going to enjoy playoff basketball when dallas get eliminated.

houston20 wrote:

Gudris wrote:Come on guys just relax and enjoy beautiful playoff basketball :)

Everybody is going to enjoy playoff basketball when dallas get eliminated.

pffff Mavs will win it all. Clippers dont havea chance

Another ****ing joke.

We traded an all star that under 25 for a guy that won’t be in the league in two years and two late round firsts? One of the worst trades in nba history.

nyknickzingis wrote:

MS wrote:The trade was necessary to maximize value?

Another ****ing joke.

We traded an all star that under 25 for a guy that won’t be in the league in two years and two late round firsts? One of the worst trades in nba history.

What Knicks needed to do is either trade Porzingis when Uncle Phil wanted to, or sign him to an extension, build his value up as a 25 points a night star on a bad team, and then off load him this summer. There is no way in hell Porzingis is passing up 150 million dollars with his injury history. The dumb move was not trading KP. It was the timing of the KP trade. Knicks could have had two lottery picks and a starter in 2017. They wound up with 2 low first round picks. Give him the extension and then build his value back up, which he easily does as the first option on a bad team. He would get you quality assets back.

Yeah, try to trade a disgruntled player on a new $150m contract who has not played for 1.5 years after sustaining a serious injury. What kind of package would that have realistically yielded us and from whom?

And how do you expect to build up his value playing him while he does not want to be on your team?

ESOMKnicks wrote:Watched the Dallas Fox South West broadcast thinking they would be jawing about NY all night long, and that would ultimately numb the pain. Surprisingly, was really impressed by the classiness and professionalism of the crew (here's to you, Harp!) and the overall high production values. Much higher than at MSG, more dynamic lead ins, pictures, videos, music, scripts, nice insightful stats. In the meantime MSG thinks that giving us Clyde, Wally and Rebecca is sufficient, the rest of the production has the technical sophistication of a home video studio, and zero imagination. If this is a reflection of the difference between the organizations, no wonder that former NYK players are flourishing in Dallas.

By the way, I am also starting to believe that the league has it in for us and the players wearing our uniform. No way that Judas Porzingis while he was still on the NYK would have ever gotten away with the type of elbows he dished out to Paul George yesterday.

Also, congrats on a nice meaningless stat line to Judas. But he was visibly winded towards the end. Hoping his Saint Luke has a speedy recovery, because Judas cannot carry the team on his own.

LOL. If KP is Judas then who is Dolan?

Grumps vs Haters

Kid had a great night 34/13 shot 61%. Showed fight and kept Dallas in the game despite Doncic having a rare off shooting night even prior to his injury. Kid will be an All Star and Knick fans will always be divided by the Grumps and the Haters.

BigDaddyG wrote:Another 30 point, another loss. Huh, go figure.

Joking/spite aside, I do find KP a baffling player- his shooting percentages should be higher (nice looking shooting stroke, very tall), but somehow isn't. Has flashes where he looks like he should be completely dominant, but somehow isn't- I don't get how he ends up posting empty stats. His weird prolongs slumps. Great blocks, great dunks, but then atrocious post play and defense. I hope he never puts it all together (for draft pick purposes), but putting my Knicks hat to one side for a moment, it's frustrating seeing him be not he cusp of greatness, then take a few steps back from it.

smackeddog wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:Another 30 point, another loss. Huh, go figure.

Joking/spite aside, I do find KP a baffling player- his shooting percentages should be higher (nice looking shooting stroke, very tall), but somehow isn't. Has flashes where he looks like he should be completely dominant, but somehow isn't- I don't get how he ends up posting empty stats. His weird prolongs slumps. Great blocks, great dunks, but then atrocious post play and defense. I hope he never puts it all together (for draft pick purposes), but putting my Knicks hat to one side for a moment, it's frustrating seeing him be not he cusp of greatness, then take a few steps back from it.

His passing is still weak enough where teams can game plan for him and not worry about him picking them apart. Also, teams feel they can still defend him with smalls. KP has gotten better at using his size, but we all know he's still going to settle for the J. That's the shot they want him to settle for anyway.