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knicks1248 wrote:frank....
omg did you see those shots...hilarious
He's right up there with fults, I mean this team looks completely lost.
Fiz boys aren't playing hard or smart

I know you love to hate on this guy and his offense is bad but don’t compare him to Fultz with the difference in defense. There is no comparison between the 2 other than they both lack confidence with the ball in their hands. But frank will always be a defensive role player at least.

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fitzfarm wrote:Baker needs more burn he’s our only player that truly gives 110%
He brings the chaos.
I'll take chaos over lethargy

absolutely. He is hyped up instantly no matter the score you can't teach that.

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knicks1248 wrote:frank....
omg did you see those shots...hilarious
He's right up there with fults, I mean this team looks completely lost.
Fiz boys aren't playing hard or smart
I know you love to hate on this guy and his offense is bad but don’t compare him to Fultz with the difference in defense. There is no comparison between the 2 other than they both lack confidence with the ball in their hands. But frank will always be a defensive role player at least.

Rainman1248 doesnt feel defense matters

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fitzfarm wrote:Baker needs more burn he’s our only player that truly gives 110%
He brings the chaos.
I'll take chaos over lethargy

I'm good. Let's lose every game we can.

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OKC has built a nice team. 2Pat a year removed from injury fits the role they need from him. Diallo looked great coming off the bench. Jerami Grant is a much more useful player than Melo at this point. Schroeder was a great pick up.

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knicks1248 wrote:frank....
omg did you see those shots...hilarious
He's right up there with fults, I mean this team looks completely lost.
Fiz boys aren't playing hard or smart
I know you love to hate on this guy and his offense is bad but don’t compare him to Fultz with the difference in defense. There is no comparison between the 2 other than they both lack confidence with the ball in their hands. But frank will always be a defensive role player at least.

Frank is playing bad on both ends, yeah he made a few defensive plays, but so did everybody else.

But the fultz comparison was strictly regarding his shooting.

You know how I know franks development is trash, he takes that same jump shot from 20 feet out, 2 feet below the 3 point line , and misses it 8 out of 10 times, and the shots are wide open, and the struggle is mind boggling.

But that bad play is super contagious

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knicks1248 wrote:frank....
omg did you see those shots...hilarious
He's right up there with fults, I mean this team looks completely lost.
Fiz boys aren't playing hard or smart
I know you love to hate on this guy and his offense is bad but don’t compare him to Fultz with the difference in defense. There is no comparison between the 2 other than they both lack confidence with the ball in their hands. But frank will always be a defensive role player at least.
Frank is playing bad on both ends, yeah he made a few defensive plays, but so did everybody else.
But the fultz comparison was strictly regarding his shooting.
You know how I know franks development is trash, he takes that same jump shot from 20 feet out, 2 feet below the 3 point line , and misses it 8 out of 10 times, and the shots are wide open, and the struggle is mind boggling.
But that bad play is super contagious

I agree about his offense. But not about his defense. He’s always good.

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knicks1248 wrote:
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knicks1248 wrote:frank....
omg did you see those shots...hilarious
He's right up there with fults, I mean this team looks completely lost.
Fiz boys aren't playing hard or smart
I know you love to hate on this guy and his offense is bad but don’t compare him to Fultz with the difference in defense. There is no comparison between the 2 other than they both lack confidence with the ball in their hands. But frank will always be a defensive role player at least.
Frank is playing bad on both ends, yeah he made a few defensive plays, but so did everybody else.
But the fultz comparison was strictly regarding his shooting.
You know how I know franks development is trash, he takes that same jump shot from 20 feet out, 2 feet below the 3 point line , and misses it 8 out of 10 times, and the shots are wide open, and the struggle is mind boggling.
But that bad play is super contagious

not paying attention like I should have but Schroeder hit a wide open 3 with Frank on him late third early fourth. Frank might have run into a pick (wasn't watching closely)but Schroeder was wide open. Looked like really bad d.

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knicks1248 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:frank....
omg did you see those shots...hilarious
He's right up there with fults, I mean this team looks completely lost.
Fiz boys aren't playing hard or smart
I know you love to hate on this guy and his offense is bad but don’t compare him to Fultz with the difference in defense. There is no comparison between the 2 other than they both lack confidence with the ball in their hands. But frank will always be a defensive role player at least.
Frank is playing bad on both ends, yeah he made a few defensive plays, but so did everybody else.
But the fultz comparison was strictly regarding his shooting.
You know how I know franks development is trash, he takes that same jump shot from 20 feet out, 2 feet below the 3 point line , and misses it 8 out of 10 times, and the shots are wide open, and the struggle is mind boggling.
But that bad play is super contagious
not paying attention like I should have but Schroeder hit a wide open 3 with Frank on him late third early fourth. Frank might have run into a pick (wasn't watching closely)but Schroeder was wide open. Looked like really bad d.

I mean all good defenders will make mistakes from time to time but overall we never have to worry about frank on the defensive end. Offensively I admit it still a long way to go. However the kid has a little over a year of experience and he was considered raw offensively. It might take year 3 or 4 for it to come to fruition. But thats kind of the point of rebuilding. All our kids will go through their lumps but all have shown flashes of good things to come

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Kevin Knox can not shoot. We have a player with a scoring mentaliity who shoots 30% from the floor

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Jmpasq wrote:Kevin Knox can not shoot. We have a player with a scoring mentaliity who shoots 30% from the floor

Kevin Knox’s is a 19 year old stud of a prospect... at 19 he still has issues setting his feet for his jumper, this is a easy fix. He needs to balance himself before taking the shot,Knox takes to many awkward looking jumpers because his feet are all out of wack. Is it rust? Is he rushing/nerves? ... I expect the Knicks staff is working with him on this.

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Jmpasq wrote:Kevin Knox can not shoot. We have a another player with a scoring mentality who shoots 30% from the floor, and nothing else!

Don't forget THJ. Fiz needs to straighten both of these guys out, and pronto!!

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11/15/2018 3:52 AM LAST EDITED: 11/15/2018 6:30 AM

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You’d have to be a fool of a coach to pull our best defensive player, for a bust like Mudiay. And yea frank only played 5 min vs Orlando and minimal minutes tonight... both games 100pts before the 4th

Frank is struggling so much with his offense at the moment that I rather see it as an act of mercy to prevent him damaging his confidence any further.

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