Like EnySpree I've been high on his talent and fit for this team so I'm excited to see him on the team. I'm really pulling for the kid to find success here. I think the fans are gonna love his aggressive style.

Knixkik wrote:Nothing to get excited about. I am not a fan of guards who can't shoot at all. But maybe he can become a solid end-of-rotation type player, you never know.

Jason Kidd

Moonangie wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:some career numbers in regards to wroten...
fg%: 41%
3pt fg: 23%
a/to: 3/2.6

these are horrid numbers...

Hmm, scary bad, especially for a pg

He's 22!

fishmike wrote:

blkexec wrote:

fishmike wrote:this guy might end up being really good. He might end up being nothing at all. Nobody can pretend to predict now, its just throwing poop at the wall and seeing what sticks. he brings size, hops and one really sick handle to the table. He's got some huge holes in his game as mentioned above. If he didnt have huge holes he would not be available for the Knicks to sign.

Except Briggs who will use this as an example of Phil's hatred of small guards, this signing means nothing. He's just a guy the Knicks want to look at. Maybe he works out. Maybe he's gone by next year.

My prediction is 12 pages.

It's going to be way less than 12.....

But I think his major hole was his injury and the type of injury, which can end a career. But at 22, he has time on his side to recover. And we probably got him at the right time, while he's motivated and mad at all the other teams who left him on the shelf. I like his ability to get to the rim and unselfish vision with his passing skills. His defense is a bonus. Seems like the perfect tall PG for Phils triangle offense. We still need a proven NBA PG as a starter, but he's a perfect backup guard to have....Especially if they want to include Grant in some trade package. They seem to be redundant.

He's def a slasher, and if you learn anything from watching DWill its that a slasher can certainly find good opportunities in this offense. However Grant can also break most anyone down off the dribble and appears clueless once he's accomplished that (impressive) feat. Time will tell... dont know anything about his personality. Considering how close to rotten his name is I have assume he brings it.

Exactly! Grant's biggest issues was how inconsistent he is while he is attacking.He doesn't put fear in opponents while he is driving to the cup.Not yet anyway. Now lets say Grant and Wroten both shoot from the outside at the same percentage. It is clear that Wroten is a much, much better finisher. That alone says this move has brought a talent that we are lacking to this team... on the cheap might I add. it's a good move people.

crzymdups wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:If that is the case then you will never find players like Jeremy Lin and even Danny Green before he was with the Spurs. Danny Green was a nothing player in his first year in Cleveland. He got cut then was in the D-League before SA picked him up and flourished. Sometimes you have the eyeball test and go from there. I don't think the Knicks are in any position to be choosy on how we get players.

Bingo. Completely agree.

Wroten is a guy who always stood out to me when I saw the Sixers the past two years. He's certainly a worth a look. I hope he gets a long look.

So i guess Hassim Whiteside is nothing as well.

KingQuis wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:If that is the case then you will never find players like Jeremy Lin and even Danny Green before he was with the Spurs. Danny Green was a nothing player in his first year in Cleveland. He got cut then was in the D-League before SA picked him up and flourished. Sometimes you have the eyeball test and go from there. I don't think the Knicks are in any position to be choosy on how we get players.

Bingo. Completely agree.

Wroten is a guy who always stood out to me when I saw the Sixers the past two years. He's certainly a worth a look. I hope he gets a long look.

So i guess Hassim Whiteside is nothing as well.

fishmike wrote:

KingQuis wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:If that is the case then you will never find players like Jeremy Lin and even Danny Green before he was with the Spurs. Danny Green was a nothing player in his first year in Cleveland. He got cut then was in the D-League before SA picked him up and flourished. Sometimes you have the eyeball test and go from there. I don't think the Knicks are in any position to be choosy on how we get players.

Bingo. Completely agree.

Wroten is a guy who always stood out to me when I saw the Sixers the past two years. He's certainly a worth a look. I hope he gets a long look.

So i guess Hassim Whiteside is nothing as well.

For every Whiteside there are 40 Anthony Randolphs and Jackie Butlers. Thats perspective. This isnt a bad signing, just not anything to really get excited about. He's just another guy. Some of these guys pop for sure, but does this guy ever make it into the rotation as a Knick? History says its doubtful. Are there better guys out there more worth a look? I have no clue. Wroten is our guy now... hopefully he does great and gets healthy. Would be a nice story.

If nothing else, they seemingly did their diligence on him. And it sounds like he was rehabbing and they were monitoring that rehab for a few months before signing him. And he really wanted to be here. That last part is so rare at this point that I think it's notable.

dk7th wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

dk7th wrote:it's going to be rough for him if he can't defend the position. i have seen zero evidence he can.

You can't say there is zero evidence when the dude is blocking shots and stealing the ball in these highlights. It's just a garbage statement when you can blatantly see him make amazing defensive plays. The potential is there and there is plenty of evidence

highlight reels are not a great basis for making an assessment of a player. our biggest issue is on the defensive side of the ball in the backcourt. there's a difference between getting steals and being a great defender.

he's a knick so we shall see.

wasn't james harden leading the league in steals at some point? Good stat!