gunsnewing wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Kp has been erratic with his shot regardless of melo's presence.

Thid misconception that melo never played with this quality of talent is as far from the truth as anything stupid. When Amare was relatively healthy he never pass the ball to him. It would something like, melo 25 SHOT ATTEMPS, AMARE 8 ATTemps. I wouls feel more confident given the ball to Amare them lopez.

MDA, and Woodsons communication, was nowhere near the skills of phil jackson. MDA quit base on melos play, woodson gets fired base on his philosophies.

How can anyone be surprise at the play of melo after witnessing the transformation of MJ amd Kobe who were the biggest ball hogs in the history of the NBA, prior to phil.

Ha another brilliant post. Completely shoots down the idea from Crush & the other other that Melo never had talent on the Knicks. Yea Amare was complete trash. It's not like he wasn't a multiple Allstar, 1st team all NBA, took Duncan to game 7 with his mezmo rising play. But yea Amare was a nobody a bum lol

Holy Shit. I forget when we played against San Antonio in the playoffs with Amare. When was that again, guns?

jrodmc wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Kp has been erratic with his shot regardless of melo's presence.

Thid misconception that melo never played with this quality of talent is as far from the truth as anything stupid. When Amare was relatively healthy he never pass the ball to him. It would something like, melo 25 SHOT ATTEMPS, AMARE 8 ATTemps. I wouls feel more confident given the ball to Amare them lopez.

MDA, and Woodsons communication, was nowhere near the skills of phil jackson. MDA quit base on melos play, woodson gets fired base on his philosophies.

How can anyone be surprise at the play of melo after witnessing the transformation of MJ amd Kobe who were the biggest ball hogs in the history of the NBA, prior to phil.

Ha another brilliant post. Completely shoots down the idea from Crush & the other other that Melo never had talent on the Knicks. Yea Amare was complete trash. It's not like he wasn't a multiple Allstar, 1st team all NBA, took Duncan to game 7 with his mezmo rising play. But yea Amare was a nobody a bum lol

Holy Shit. I forget when we played against San Antonio in the playoffs with Amare. When was that again, guns?

Incase you haven't notice you are one of the ones certainly at the top of the list, who I refuse to engage with ever again in regards to the Knicks. Goodnight Jrodmc

Knickoftime wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Bottom line it's not enough that Melo is playing superb Basketball. You guys are more into getting into with other posters. Which IMO is the main thing that drags this community down

so would you say you are no longer having concerns about *any* prospect developing next to Melo?

I guess when you sit through a couple years of bad posting and agendas it takes some time to detox

What Knickoftime said.

A handful of guys sat through two years of nonstop Melo hate and Guns there was no bigger culprit than you constantly daily reminding us that
1) his contract is garbage
2) we would be better off just parting ways
3) he's going to ruin this environment for any high pick/prospect we bring in

OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

Good to see you now crying about dragging down the community. Hypocrisy at its finest. Glad to see you are enjoying the Knicks again, and that last sentence was not sarcastic at all... I honestly am, because few people's words were more miserable to read about here than yours. You rubbed our noses in it at every opportunity.

Sorry guys... eat crow.

Oh.. and go Knicks.

His contract is still garbage and will be worse if he gets injured and misses significant time. Again it's year 13 for Melo at $25mil per. Melo gets injured we go back to wining under 30 games aka the H20, Dice, Curry & Amare years. Cap hell and nothing we can do but let the players contract expire. Now I hope that doesn't happen especially with the way Melo has been playing and the chemistry with KP being near the top of his recent success. But if he does get injured don't worry I will remember to return the favor and rub it in your face from time to time

I entirely miss the point of this post.

Whose $18m plus contract isn't a hinderence of the player gets significantly injured?

What team isn't taking a big step backward if their best player is injured?

You seem to be taking common sense point and implying it applies uniquely to Melo. Maybe I misunderstand you?

Don't worry about it. As long as Fishmike knows exactly where I stand today

So asking a fair and relevant question isn't appreciated.

No, it's obviously not, but it you'd care to spend some time dividing 124 million by minutes missed by injury, you're sure to move up on someone's "list".

And we all know just how important and relevant that is.

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Bottom line it's not enough that Melo is playing superb Basketball. You guys are more into getting into with other posters. Which IMO is the main thing that drags this community down

so would you say you are no longer having concerns about *any* prospect developing next to Melo?

I guess when you sit through a couple years of bad posting and agendas it takes some time to detox

What Knickoftime said.

A handful of guys sat through two years of nonstop Melo hate and Guns there was no bigger culprit than you constantly daily reminding us that
1) his contract is garbage
2) we would be better off just parting ways
3) he's going to ruin this environment for any high pick/prospect we bring in

OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

Good to see you now crying about dragging down the community. Hypocrisy at its finest. Glad to see you are enjoying the Knicks again, and that last sentence was not sarcastic at all... I honestly am, because few people's words were more miserable to read about here than yours. You rubbed our noses in it at every opportunity.

Sorry guys... eat crow.

Oh.. and go Knicks.

His contract is still garbage and will be worse if he gets injured and misses significant time. Again it's year 13 for Melo at $25mil per. Melo gets injured we go back to wining under 30 games aka the H20, Dice, Curry & Amare years. Cap hell and nothing we can do but let the players contract expire. Now I hope that doesn't happen especially with the way Melo has been playing and the chemistry with KP being near the top of his recent success. But if he does get injured don't worry I will remember to return the favor and rub it in your face from time to time

yea? Melo isnt a max player? You have rubbed my face in it for two years. I am comfortable with my opinions and views on the subject.

As for rubbing it in my face in the future... Guys get hurt. It doesnt make you stupid for drafting Greg Oden. It just makes you unlucky.

Come on Fish I rubbed it in your face? So every time we argue about the team and the players and you disagree I'm rubbing it in your face?

gunsnewing wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Bottom line it's not enough that Melo is playing superb Basketball. You guys are more into getting into with other posters. Which IMO is the main thing that drags this community down

so would you say you are no longer having concerns about *any* prospect developing next to Melo?

I guess when you sit through a couple years of bad posting and agendas it takes some time to detox

What Knickoftime said.

A handful of guys sat through two years of nonstop Melo hate and Guns there was no bigger culprit than you constantly daily reminding us that
1) his contract is garbage
2) we would be better off just parting ways
3) he's going to ruin this environment for any high pick/prospect we bring in

OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

Good to see you now crying about dragging down the community. Hypocrisy at its finest. Glad to see you are enjoying the Knicks again, and that last sentence was not sarcastic at all... I honestly am, because few people's words were more miserable to read about here than yours. You rubbed our noses in it at every opportunity.

Sorry guys... eat crow.

Oh.. and go Knicks.

His contract is still garbage and will be worse if he gets injured and misses significant time. Again it's year 13 for Melo at $25mil per. Melo gets injured we go back to wining under 30 games aka the H20, Dice, Curry & Amare years. Cap hell and nothing we can do but let the players contract expire. Now I hope that doesn't happen especially with the way Melo has been playing and the chemistry with KP being near the top of his recent success. But if he does get injured don't worry I will remember to return the favor and rub it in your face from time to time

yea? Melo isnt a max player? You have rubbed my face in it for two years. I am comfortable with my opinions and views on the subject.

As for rubbing it in my face in the future... Guys get hurt. It doesnt make you stupid for drafting Greg Oden. It just makes you unlucky.

Come on Fish I rubbed it in your face? So every time we argue about the team and the players and you disagree I'm rubbing it in your face?

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:2. We won the Boston game without Melo because we had built a substantial lead and all we had to do was HOLD ON to the lead, also Isiah Thomas made a mistake or two at the end.

KNicks had a 1 point lead at 11:26 of the 4th and were behind of tied in the 4th from 7:22 to 4:18 and again at 2:44.

They didn't hold onto the lead in the 4th. They won the game in the 4th.

Melo went down in the 2nd quarter...

Right, and they lost the lead the had built early in the 4th.

They won the game in the 4th, they just didn't outlast the Celtics chipping into the lead.

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:2. We won the Boston game without Melo because we had built a substantial lead and all we had to do was HOLD ON to the lead, also Isiah Thomas made a mistake or two at the end.

KNicks had a 1 point lead at 11:26 of the 4th and were behind of tied in the 4th from 7:22 to 4:18 and again at 2:44.

They didn't hold onto the lead in the 4th. They won the game in the 4th.

Melo went down in the 2nd quarter...

Right, and they lost the lead the had built early in the 4th.

They won the game in the 4th, they just didn't outlast the Celtics chipping into the lead.

let me clarify...They held on to win the game primarily because of their momentum in the first half.

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Bottom line it's not enough that Melo is playing superb Basketball. You guys are more into getting into with other posters. Which IMO is the main thing that drags this community down

so would you say you are no longer having concerns about *any* prospect developing next to Melo?

I guess when you sit through a couple years of bad posting and agendas it takes some time to detox

What Knickoftime said.

A handful of guys sat through two years of nonstop Melo hate and Guns there was no bigger culprit than you constantly daily reminding us that
1) his contract is garbage
2) we would be better off just parting ways
3) he's going to ruin this environment for any high pick/prospect we bring in

OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

Good to see you now crying about dragging down the community. Hypocrisy at its finest. Glad to see you are enjoying the Knicks again, and that last sentence was not sarcastic at all... I honestly am, because few people's words were more miserable to read about here than yours. You rubbed our noses in it at every opportunity.

Sorry guys... eat crow.

Oh.. and go Knicks.

His contract is still garbage and will be worse if he gets injured and misses significant time. Again it's year 13 for Melo at $25mil per. Melo gets injured we go back to wining under 30 games aka the H20, Dice, Curry & Amare years. Cap hell and nothing we can do but let the players contract expire. Now I hope that doesn't happen especially with the way Melo has been playing and the chemistry with KP being near the top of his recent success. But if he does get injured don't worry I will remember to return the favor and rub it in your face from time to time

yea? Melo isnt a max player? You have rubbed my face in it for two years. I am comfortable with my opinions and views on the subject.

As for rubbing it in my face in the future... Guys get hurt. It doesnt make you stupid for drafting Greg Oden. It just makes you unlucky.

Come on Fish I rubbed it in your face? So every time we argue about the team and the players and you disagree I'm rubbing it in your face?

dont bother with fish he believes what he wants to believe

You know nothing about me. You are not in any way shape or form qualified to answer for me. Thanks. Perhaps stick to making non-points and then saying "thats not what I meant." Feel free to place me on ignore.

Here comes the part where you say "relax" and play it like you are cool and everyone else should be as cool as you. I am as relaxed as it gets. I just have no interest in your drivel or your passive aggressive prattling on the subject.

Relax fish! No one's hating on Melo. So what if all the things we've been saying about Melo through the years are true. SO what!!

As long as he's playing the right way this season finally is all that matters. (until that changes)

ChuckBuck wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Bottom line it's not enough that Melo is playing superb Basketball. You guys are more into getting into with other posters. Which IMO is the main thing that drags this community down

so would you say you are no longer having concerns about *any* prospect developing next to Melo?

I guess when you sit through a couple years of bad posting and agendas it takes some time to detox

What Knickoftime said.

A handful of guys sat through two years of nonstop Melo hate and Guns there was no bigger culprit than you constantly daily reminding us that
1) his contract is garbage
2) we would be better off just parting ways
3) he's going to ruin this environment for any high pick/prospect we bring in

OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

Good to see you now crying about dragging down the community. Hypocrisy at its finest. Glad to see you are enjoying the Knicks again, and that last sentence was not sarcastic at all... I honestly am, because few people's words were more miserable to read about here than yours. You rubbed our noses in it at every opportunity.

Sorry guys... eat crow.

Oh.. and go Knicks.

His contract is still garbage and will be worse if he gets injured and misses significant time. Again it's year 13 for Melo at $25mil per. Melo gets injured we go back to wining under 30 games aka the H20, Dice, Curry & Amare years. Cap hell and nothing we can do but let the players contract expire. Now I hope that doesn't happen especially with the way Melo has been playing and the chemistry with KP being near the top of his recent success. But if he does get injured don't worry I will remember to return the favor and rub it in your face from time to time

yea? Melo isnt a max player? You have rubbed my face in it for two years. I am comfortable with my opinions and views on the subject.

As for rubbing it in my face in the future... Guys get hurt. It doesnt make you stupid for drafting Greg Oden. It just makes you unlucky.

Come on Fish I rubbed it in your face? So every time we argue about the team and the players and you disagree I'm rubbing it in your face?

dont bother with fish he believes what he wants to believe

You know nothing about me. You are not in any way shape or form qualified to answer for me. Thanks. Perhaps stick to making non-points and then saying "thats not what I meant." Feel free to place me on ignore.

Here comes the part where you say "relax" and play it like you are cool and everyone else should be as cool as you. I am as relaxed as it gets. I just have no interest in your drivel or your passive aggressive prattling on the subject.

Relax fish! No one's hating on Melo. So what if all the things we've been saying about Melo through the years are true. SO what!!

As long as he's playing the right way this season finally is all that matters. (until that changes)

Fish explained the issue quite clearly. Lack of reading comprehension doesn't change he is right.

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:2. We won the Boston game without Melo because we had built a substantial lead and all we had to do was HOLD ON to the lead, also Isiah Thomas made a mistake or two at the end.

KNicks had a 1 point lead at 11:26 of the 4th and were behind of tied in the 4th from 7:22 to 4:18 and again at 2:44.

They didn't hold onto the lead in the 4th. They won the game in the 4th.

Melo went down in the 2nd quarter...

Right, and they lost the lead the had built early in the 4th.

They won the game in the 4th, they just didn't outlast the Celtics chipping into the lead.

let me clarify...They held on to win the game primarily because of their momentum in the first half.

So they lost enough momentum to lose their entire lead and go down by 3 in the fourth, but had enough momentum to regain the lead and win by 6?

That sort of defies what momentum is when you let the other team take a 3 pt lead on you, but okay.

Just slowed down a bit from the momentum in the first half and then picked up a bit.