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StarksEwing1
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11/20/2015  9:43 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
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StarksEwing1 wrote:Awesome move by melo. See crushalot that wasnt critical

hahaha good one.

well his comment did piss me off because it was untrue. I love the knicks but im not a homer, i point out the positives and negatives

I think we're all pretty hardcore Knicks fans but not everyone is gonna look at everything Knicks the same way and we're all gonna voice what we think in different ways. I'm really hardcore to where i actually get upset when some talk smack and show hate where i don't think it's needed. I like to stay positive about anyone playing for the Knicks until it's clear that it's not needed anymore.

thats fine but getting accused of hating just because i point out a criticism on ONE play gets me pissed. I consider myself a positive fan but also objective
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11/20/2015  9:43 PM
Kanter is crazy active on the offensive boards.
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11/20/2015  9:43 PM
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crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Calderon so bad

yep. sigh


I don't think he's bad at all. I don't think he's the player he once was obviously but i really don't think he's been that bad except for the first 3/4 games of the year.
dude we were referring to the turnovers....thats all. Cant get bent out of shape if we are critical of a particular play, it just means we care

Hmmmmmmmm i don't see it that way but maybe i care to much.
so we are never allowed to point out a mistake by our player according to you?

Well of course you can if it truly is a mistake and not just fans being negative about something they really don't know about.

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11/20/2015  9:43 PM
If the bench can hold this lead we have a good chance to win this game.
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11/20/2015  9:44 PM
3Q - 1:11
OKC 60 NYK 71
StarksEwing1
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11/20/2015  9:44 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Calderon so bad

yep. sigh


I don't think he's bad at all. I don't think he's the player he once was obviously but i really don't think he's been that bad except for the first 3/4 games of the year.

He's had two brutal turnovers tonight. But he's been otherwise good. I was overreacting to the bad TOs.


Westbrook has had two turnovers to so is he bad to??
he was refering to one play not his whole game

It sure didn't read that way.
i dont know how, i understood completely what he meant
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11/20/2015  9:44 PM
Clean wrote:Melo is the only player in the league that don't get that foul when the defender jumps and you jump into him.

nope that's just in your head.

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11/20/2015  9:44 PM
is there ANYONE in the NBA who hits a hook shot with regular reliability (?)
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11/20/2015  9:46 PM
can we finish strong?
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11/20/2015  9:46 PM
The bench came to play today! Please let them hold this up for 3 or 4 more minutes!
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11/20/2015  9:46 PM
Thomas is balling
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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11/20/2015  9:46 PM
11 point lead going into the dreaded 4th quarter . . .
yellowboy90
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11/20/2015  9:46 PM
Does Thomas step on the 3pt line on purpose just to make fans mad? lol.
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11/20/2015  9:46 PM
crzymdups wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Calderon so bad

yep. sigh


I don't think he's bad at all. I don't think he's the player he once was obviously but i really don't think he's been that bad except for the first 3/4 games of the year.

He's had two brutal turnovers tonight. But he's been otherwise good. I was overreacting to the bad TOs.


Westbrook has had two turnovers to so is he bad to??

Jose Calderon's PER is 10.2 for the year. Westbrook's is 32.2. I think it's safe to say Westbrook makes up for his TOs with other things. TOs are counted in PER. 15 is considered league average. There are only 3 players in the NBA with a PER over 30. So, no, Westbrook is not bad.


I didn't say he was but turnovers happen by every single player out there and Calderon has been one of the best at not turning the ball over for his career.
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StarksEwing1
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11/20/2015  9:47 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Calderon so bad

yep. sigh


I don't think he's bad at all. I don't think he's the player he once was obviously but i really don't think he's been that bad except for the first 3/4 games of the year.
dude we were referring to the turnovers....thats all. Cant get bent out of shape if we are critical of a particular play, it just means we care

Hmmmmmmmm i don't see it that way but maybe i care to much.
so we are never allowed to point out a mistake by our player according to you?

Well of course you can if it truly is a mistake and not just fans being negative about something they really don't know about.

i wasnt being negative i was just pointing out a mistake on those 2 turnovers. Also ive played bball all my life and particularly point guard so i focus a lot on grant and calderon since i know the duties of a point guard really well
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11/20/2015  9:47 PM
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lol, we play good d

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11/20/2015  9:48 PM
3Q - 0:00
OKC 62 NYK 73
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11/20/2015  9:48 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Calderon so bad

yep. sigh


I don't think he's bad at all. I don't think he's the player he once was obviously but i really don't think he's been that bad except for the first 3/4 games of the year.

He's had two brutal turnovers tonight. But he's been otherwise good. I was overreacting to the bad TOs.


Westbrook has had two turnovers to so is he bad to??

Jose Calderon's PER is 10.2 for the year. Westbrook's is 32.2. I think it's safe to say Westbrook makes up for his TOs with other things. TOs are counted in PER. 15 is considered league average. There are only 3 players in the NBA with a PER over 30. So, no, Westbrook is not bad.


I didn't say he was but turnovers happen by every single player out there and Calderon has been one of the best at not turning the ball over for his career.

Well he had two tremendously awful ones tonight where he looked old and overmatched.

It was just an observation. I've actually defended Calderon more than most on this board, but I'm going to call a spade a spade. He looked old and terrible a few times in a row there.

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11/20/2015  9:48 PM
Let's see if we can close this out!
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