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mreinman
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8/11/2015  4:35 PM
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

this kind of comparison really hurts your credibility dude.

Only 5 players scored 20k faster than Melo. Jordan, Lebron, Oscar, Kobe, and Wilt, and this dude is comparing him to MARK AGUIRRE lol. Now melo isn't even in the same universe as those players who beat him to it, but the fact that the conversation has been dumbed down to this comparison hurts my head beyond belief!

I think that Vince Carter is a better comparison.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
AUTOADVERT
Knixkik
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8/11/2015  4:42 PM
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

this kind of comparison really hurts your credibility dude.

Only 5 players scored 20k faster than Melo. Jordan, Lebron, Oscar, Kobe, and Wilt, and this dude is comparing him to MARK AGUIRRE lol. Now melo isn't even in the same universe as those players who beat him to it, but the fact that the conversation has been dumbed down to this comparison hurts my head beyond belief!

I think that Vince Carter is a better comparison.


Vince has never been the type of scorer/rebounder, but its closer. He was also no longer a great scorer at age 30 due to injury. Dominique is probably the closest in my mind, although i think Melo will be better than it's all said and done.
dk7th
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8/11/2015  4:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/11/2015  4:53 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

Nice pull! Now I gotta make my pick!

I'll say way less efficient Adrian Dantley, but with 3s:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dantlad01.html

way less efficient? how about no comparison at all ha ha: http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=anthoca01&p2=aguirma01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

1)dantley is over 54%FG for his career to melo's entirely mediocre 45.5%FG.

2)dantley, without taking a three, nonetheless has an absolutely stellar and mindblowing TS% of 62%!!

3)he also scored 1 point less but on 4 fewer shots per game.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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8/11/2015  4:53 PM
dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

Nice pull! Now I gotta make my pick!

I'll say way less efficient Adrian Dantley, but with 3s:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dantlad01.html

way less efficient? how about no comparison at all ha ha:

1)dantley is over 54%FG for his career to melo's entirely mediocre 45.5%FG.

2)dantley, without taking a three, nonetheless has an absolutely stellar and mindblowing TS% of 62%!!

3)he also scored 1 point less but on 4 fewer shots per game.

Dantley lived at the foul line too. Just absolutely parked there and took free throws to breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

What a machine.

dk7th
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8/11/2015  5:00 PM
Knixkik wrote:
dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

Aguirre is a 3 time all-star and not even in the hall of fame. Melo will be a first ballot hall of famer whenever he retires. Please make realistic comparisons if you are to attempt that because these comments show you cannot be taken serious in a conversation such as this.

look at the numbers-- numbers don't lie and are not sentimental morons who don't understand the game.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
dk7th
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8/11/2015  5:01 PM
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

this kind of comparison really hurts your credibility dude.

credibility with whom? people who understand the game or people who do not understand the game?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=anthoca01&p2=aguirma01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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8/11/2015  5:07 PM
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

this kind of comparison really hurts your credibility dude.

Only 5 players scored 20k faster than Melo. Jordan, Lebron, Oscar, Kobe, and Wilt, and this dude is comparing him to MARK AGUIRRE lol. Now melo isn't even in the same universe as those players who beat him to it, but the fact that the conversation has been dumbed down to this comparison hurts my head beyond belief! It's just astounding.

what does "scoring faster" have to do with ANYTHING.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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8/11/2015  5:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/11/2015  5:21 PM
dk7th wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

Aguirre is a 3 time all-star and not even in the hall of fame. Melo will be a first ballot hall of famer whenever he retires. Please make realistic comparisons if you are to attempt that because these comments show you cannot be taken serious in a conversation such as this.

look at the numbers-- numbers don't lie and are not sentimental morons who don't understand the game.

Numbers can tell you anything you want them to. There are plenty of fringe NBA players who were more efficient scorers than NBA All-stars. There is a common sense factor here. I am done arguing this. As it was stated before, you lose credibility by these things and then attempting to back them. You get beat badly in these various Melo arguments when you argue he is a 6th man on a good team, comparable to former non-nba stars etc. Getting back to the original topic, Phil LOVES Melo, his words are plenty of proof, and he is much smarter than you and I. I will leave it alone. If you want the last word, by all means.

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8/11/2015  5:34 PM
Knixkik wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

Aguirre is a 3 time all-star and not even in the hall of fame. Melo will be a first ballot hall of famer whenever he retires. Please make realistic comparisons if you are to attempt that because these comments show you cannot be taken serious in a conversation such as this.

look at the numbers-- numbers don't lie and are not sentimental morons who don't understand the game.

Numbers can tell you anything you want them to. There are plenty of fringe NBA players who were more efficient scorers than NBA All-stars. There is a common sense factor here. I am done arguing this. As it was stated before, you lose credibility by these things and then attempting to back them. You get beat badly in these various Melo arguments when you argue he is a 6th man on a good team, comparable to former non-nba stars etc. Getting back to the original topic, Phil LOVES Melo, his words are plenty of proof, and he is much smarter than you and I. I will leave it alone. If you want the last word, by all means.

i will have the last word:

you are wrong not only here but also have a poor understanding of basketball.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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8/11/2015  5:45 PM
dk7th wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

Aguirre is a 3 time all-star and not even in the hall of fame. Melo will be a first ballot hall of famer whenever he retires. Please make realistic comparisons if you are to attempt that because these comments show you cannot be taken serious in a conversation such as this.

look at the numbers-- numbers don't lie and are not sentimental morons who don't understand the game.

Numbers can tell you anything you want them to. There are plenty of fringe NBA players who were more efficient scorers than NBA All-stars. There is a common sense factor here. I am done arguing this. As it was stated before, you lose credibility by these things and then attempting to back them. You get beat badly in these various Melo arguments when you argue he is a 6th man on a good team, comparable to former non-nba stars etc. Getting back to the original topic, Phil LOVES Melo, his words are plenty of proof, and he is much smarter than you and I. I will leave it alone. If you want the last word, by all means.

i will have the last word:

you are wrong not only here but also have a poor understanding of basketball.

Is it neccessary to post that you will have the last word if someone tells you they aren't going to respond to you anymore? I am sure you have been through this before.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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8/11/2015  5:59 PM
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

this kind of comparison really hurts your credibility dude.

No it doesn't...

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8/11/2015  6:00 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

Nice pull! Now I gotta make my pick!

I'll say way less efficient Adrian Dantley, but with 3s:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dantlad01.html

Look at you two, stumbling on each other to embarrass yourselves...

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8/11/2015  6:05 PM
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dk7th wrote:
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dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
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ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
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ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
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holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

Aguirre is a 3 time all-star and not even in the hall of fame. Melo will be a first ballot hall of famer whenever he retires. Please make realistic comparisons if you are to attempt that because these comments show you cannot be taken serious in a conversation such as this.

look at the numbers-- numbers don't lie and are not sentimental morons who don't understand the game.

Numbers can tell you anything you want them to. There are plenty of fringe NBA players who were more efficient scorers than NBA All-stars. There is a common sense factor here. I am done arguing this. As it was stated before, you lose credibility by these things and then attempting to back them. You get beat badly in these various Melo arguments when you argue he is a 6th man on a good team, comparable to former non-nba stars etc. Getting back to the original topic, Phil LOVES Melo, his words are plenty of proof, and he is much smarter than you and I. I will leave it alone. If you want the last word, by all means.

i will have the last word:

you are wrong not only here but also have a poor understanding of basketball.

Is it neccessary to post that you will have the last word if someone tells you they aren't going to respond to you anymore? I am sure you have been through this before.

they will read unless they put me on ignore. i suppose that is better than getting yet another beatdown

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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8/11/2015  6:06 PM
holfresh wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
dk7th wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
holfresh wrote:I have a tremendous amount of respect for Pierce...He can't give you what Melo gives you..Paul won't carry your team for a month in his prime...Paul won't give you 42 pts and 17 boards when u need it...

Wait, don't tell me you're bringing up Me7o's stats when he got swept to kingdom come in the first round against this same Boston Celtics team....

The epitome of useless statistics. Holfresh please never bring up stats in a crushing loss and series sweep.

It doesn't help your case.

mele got swept but pierce had very little to do with it, rondo simply destroyed every guard we had on him, which happen to be a out-of-the-league tony douglas, and what ever schmuck we had. i think it was one game he had like 20 ast, 20 points 17 rebounds

It's funny how you guys be comparing melo to players that have a 10x better supporting cast on both ends.

What about the other 2 times he made the playoffs?

His whole Knick career has been an abomination.

"Truth" hurts, I know...see what I did there!

as oppose to who labron? last i checked only 3 teams have won titles since he's been a knick, so there's about 30 other all stars in melo's position..

what about
Kd
westbrook
harden
lillard
LMA
dirk
gasol
rose
p george

this list is endless

All have advanced further and accomplished more than Me7o.

what have the accomplish?, there always hurt

Come on man...stop.

P. George made All Defensive team twice already. Didn't Westbrook have like Quadrillion triple doubles this season?

I'm too lazy to look up the rest.

All players listed accomplished way more...Look it up here http://www.basketball-reference.com/

Melo has won scoring titles and been to the Conference Finals.

Has Chris Paul ever made the conference finals in his life? Dude blew a 3-1 lead over Houston just this year in the second round.

So. 1 scoring title LOL.

KD craps scoring titles for breakfast.

I'm pretty sure CP3 will be looked at when his career is all said and done, one of the greatest PG's to ever lace them up. Advanced Stats already back this.

Me7o will be just another gunner that scored alot, nothing else.

Or when it is all said and done he could be label a napoleon who destroyed his team and a guy who always came up short in the playoffs despite his great play.

YADA YADA YADA YADA garbage YADA

Chris Paul

Honors

2003 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2014-15 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

We already agree on performance but you were discussing made up future narratives. If the Clippers implode again and Paul is having problems with teammates who do you think the blame will point too? Also, given his production and age who do you think the Clippers would be willing to give up to get the most value?
Theoretically it would be Paul but the Clippers have arguably one of the worst GMs in the league.

I don't care about blame game or GM this or that.

The fact you even brought up CP3, an all time NBA great historical point guard, and compared him to Me7o is dumb enough.

That's like comparing Dominique Wilkins to Larry Bird or Lebron or Magic.

Very good talent (Me7o) to all time in history greats. There's no comparison.

melo's closest comparison is MARK AGUIRRE.

Nice pull! Now I gotta make my pick!

I'll say way less efficient Adrian Dantley, but with 3s:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dantlad01.html

Look at you two, stumbling on each other to embarrass yourselves...

give me your comparatives. mine is aguirre with a dash of 'nique

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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8/11/2015  6:19 PM
Yes, let's hear yours holfresh.
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8/11/2015  8:05 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:Yes, let's hear yours holfresh.

its Larry Bird duh!

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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8/12/2015  1:40 PM
Don't put any college stats or accomplishments.

Did any of those guys do this?

Professionally melo is a mix of Dantly, Wilkens, and other guys who never won a pro chip.
They were all stars and not Bird/magic/Dr J or what ever god you want to throw up there.

Funny, not many are trying to promote Melo as anything than an allstar who scores a lot, but hating on him as if he is some demon is kind of amusing.

Not many toxic players can lead a team to an NCAA chip at age 19. No, hes not Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, Larry or Dirk. He is Dominique, Dantly, and Elgin.
Denver was talented but chemistry was never good year to year. If 22 year old melo was at fault that's one thing. Its 30 year old melo im concerned about.

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But why does 30 year Me7o have to be our concern...

Go be Dominique, Dantley, Baylor somewhere else. Phil and Co. are trying to build something special for the future!

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8/12/2015  2:23 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:But why does 30 year Me7o have to be our concern...

Go be Dominique, Dantley, Baylor somewhere else. Phil and Co. are trying to build something special for the future!

MeloHope. As an asset on the floor or trade. At this point in time an allstar Melo is a better asset than "chuckbuck" told ya so.

I did not like the trade, but even if they asked me the point is its 2015 and he is here. Its all about the here and now.

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8/12/2015  2:26 PM
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:But why does 30 year Me7o have to be our concern...

Go be Dominique, Dantley, Baylor somewhere else. Phil and Co. are trying to build something special for the future!

MeloHope. As an asset on the floor or trade. At this point in time an allstar Melo is a better asset than "chuckbuck" told ya so.

I did not like the trade, but even if they asked me the point is its 2015 and he is here. Its all about the here and now.

True, he is an asset. In that I'm in 1000% agreement, Nalod.

Phil will hopefully convince Me7o to waive his no trade clause and we'll finally be free of him by either the trade deadline or the off season.

The Phil Files Part 7

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